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In chains I was bound,

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I was a madman on the run.

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Through the hills hills I wandered

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I was running from the sun

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But truth found me there

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It was in my darkest eye

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I traded my black heart for joy, for

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something real, something with power.

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Truth

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set me free.

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Truth came to me.

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I once was blind, and now I see

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Welcome to Tell the Truth, a weekly podcast

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about faith, current events, and life in general,

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brought to you from Mountain View Baptist Church

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live every Monday night at 6 PM CST.

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And welcome back this week. It is so

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nice to be back. We have, finished up

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our

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Christmas program at the church yesterday and

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finally ready to get into the holidays and

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stuff with families and all that stuff with,

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without having to think about all the the

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music and stuff that we're working on. I

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know that's always a big thing. If if

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you ever ever involved with any of that

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with your church, you know, that that is

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always a lot to track and a lot

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to keep up with, but it it's, it's

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nice to be starting the new week, knowing

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that we just have, Christmases next week and

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we get to, we get to celebrate and,

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and hopefully get to spend time with your

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family, spend time with,

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with your kids.

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definitely

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just, just have a good week and a

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good time with them.

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Hope, hopefully everybody gets to spend a few

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days off work, at least.

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I think most places now are pretty good

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about at least closing on Christmas day if

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they don't close the rest of the year.

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you know, hope hope that everybody gets a

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chance to do that next week.

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Brother, Dennis, how you doing tonight? Doing alright,

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man. Doing alright. I had a a rough

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weekend and a really good day today. Really

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good day. Even though I I I that

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sounds kinda contradictory. I preached a funeral today

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but,

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there's just some, you know, tension relief happening

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at my where my mom's at, an assisted

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living place, and just feel God's peace,

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answered prayers, you know? Amen. So Awesome. I'm

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so glad to hear that.

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And brother Brian, how,

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how are you doing? I'm good. I'm good.

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Yeah. Having a good start to the week?

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like you said, getting over,

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I won't say getting over. We really enjoyed

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yesterday, and,

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I think the Lord was was was in

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the midst of us yesterday. I know he

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was,

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during the service, and, man, the music was

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good.

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The holy spirit was good. So, yeah, thank

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you for Lord for letting us celebrate you

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one more time. Amen. Absolutely.

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tonight, I think we have a very important,

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conversation coming up.

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our last for the year show, do a,

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a nice,

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thing for Christmas, whether that means we get

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the choir in or if it's just us,

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maybe the 3 of us will,

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croon to some people with some Christmas carols.

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3 guys that, that could possibly end up

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being sick or whatever else is going on?

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the in our choir message group today to

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kinda give them a heads up. I I

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would really like to do something like a

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kinda like a gate for homecoming thing, I

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guess. Yeah. I'll just sit around the piano

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and maybe guitar and and, just sing some

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some songs, some Christmas songs, some the Lord

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Holy Spirit moves a different way, we wanna

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sing some another songs. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I

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think it'd be neat to to kinda

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end the year of the podcast and, thankful

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the Lord's allowed us to do this. Absolutely.

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but tonight, I believe we're gonna be talking

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about how do we know that we are

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saved. Yeah. And this sounds like a great

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don't know any Christian

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doesn't go through some

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some times of doubt, some, you know, some

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times where Satan

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says, hey. How do you really know? You

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know? And and so, you know, and and

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and so I remember when my kids were,

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dealt with that. I remember both, Tatum and

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Brandon just,

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you know, Tatum come home,

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after after she had,

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after she had,

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experienced

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the Lord dealing with her heart.

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at Bible school, and, and it wasn't in

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our church. And, it was with my mom

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and dad's church. And I can remember her

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saying, dad, I just don't know. You know,

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I just how do I tell you know,

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she wanted me to tell her that she

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was saved. And, and I couldn't do that.

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just put Jesus in her heart, you know?

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dad and the preacher questions for her, and

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and she answered all the right answers. She

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had heard it all her life. And,

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but but, you know, that was something that

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she had to come to terms with herself

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between her and the holy spirit.

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after we had had that conversation and I'd

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ask her all the all the questions,

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and and she'd give me all the right

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answers. I said, Tammy, it's just something you're

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gonna have to settle in your heart.

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she she had went back. They were that

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night, they had been,

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if you've ever done this in Bible school,

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they had a they had, like, a little

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kiddie pool over there with a bunch of

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fish in it, you know, and then, like,

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a little magnet or something sticky, and they'd

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catch fish out of it. Each fish had

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a Bible verse on it. She didn't even

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tell me this the first the first time

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she,

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was on her,

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was on her table or, you know, TV

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stand or whatever in her bedroom, and I

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picked it up. I said, what is that?

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she said, dad.

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that's the bible verse that I that I

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fished out that night,

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that

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that I got saved and I said that

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you got saved and she said yes and

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she said I just seen it again today

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and she's I said what's it saying? She

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said it says that that I will be

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your God and you will be my people.

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Amen. She said, I know that I belong

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to him, you know, and I said, well,

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there you go, babe. Yeah. So we planned

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the baptism after that, but,

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but, yeah, she you know, it and and

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and Brenda and Brenda was,

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a little bit of the same. She was

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pretty confident, you know?

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Hers was actually in bible school also, and

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it was at Nicole's mom's church. And

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and, and later on, she had some doubts.

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she said, dad, I just I gotta know.

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I gotta know for sure. This was a

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couple years down the road. And and, she

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she said, she that night,

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long story short, she prayed, and she said

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that I know I know that I've been

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saved. And, and so she talked about being

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baptized again and and, you know, not that

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the first one didn't take, but I wanted

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her to know that she could mark that

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day and she could say, okay. I I'm

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I'm confident in this now. Yeah. And, you

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know, everybody has and I don't wanna keep

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talking, but everybody has those those doubts, those

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experiences,

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you know, what do you do? I mean,

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how do you how do you know? How

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do you prove

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to yourself,

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that you know yourself that you're saved? You

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know, I did something similar when I got

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saved. You know, and and I I had

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no doubt, you know, for

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probably a month or 2, man, I was

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on fire. I I just the Lord was

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just unloading on me. Yeah. And then I

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started doubting. And and I I would find

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myself in bed every night praying to get

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saved again. Yeah. Over and over and over

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and over. Just just wanting to make sure.

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this, I I finally just felt God in

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my heart saying,

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trust me. Yeah. Amen. And and I think

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for a lot of people, it it comes

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down to, feelings over

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trust. Mhmm. Like, we don't have that feeling

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that we're saved all the time, and and

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we start to doubt it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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One of the big things for for me

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she had a burden for other people and

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both of them did. And that was one

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of the things I told them. I said,

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if you're you wouldn't

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you wouldn't be worried about somebody else being

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saved if you weren't saved yourself. You know?

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They had a burden for other people. And

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sure sign, you know, if you have a

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burden for somebody else that that you don't

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you don't want them to die and go

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to hell, then, you know, something something's different

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in you. Yeah. So Yeah. And then that's

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that's the earmark of the whole thing. Right?

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Something's different. Yeah. Something's different. Yeah. He's been

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changed. Yeah. Yeah. And and that doesn't mean

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you you don't you don't fall, that that

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you don't make mistakes. No. And I think

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that's where the doubt starts creeping in. It's

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like, oh, I slipped up and did something

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I shouldn't have done. Right. And I must

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not be saved. And and that's Satan,

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you you're not saved and doubt Absolutely. Thing.

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Absolutely. But that's when we just have to

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force ourselves to believe. Yeah. To believe. Yeah.

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I think Satan deal deals it or deals

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his cards in a couple of different ways

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there.

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if you're saved,

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he does everything he can to convince you

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that you're not. Yeah. Because if he can

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convince you or make you doubt your salvation,

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then he knows that he kinda renders you

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useless because you're not gonna go out and

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witness to anybody else when you're not even

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sure that

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Yeah. You're you're saved yourself. So he does

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that. Or on the other side of it,

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and I want to warn people about this.

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I mean,

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it's his other game is make you feel

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like you're okay. Right? I mean, I I

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grew up in church, you know, my Sunday

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school teacher said I was saved, my preacher

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said I was saved, mom and dad said

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I was saved, but you can't take yourself

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back to to a a place where you

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know that that there was a conversion, that

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there was a a rebirth, that something happened

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Yeah. Inside of you. And so,

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and and his his endgame, and that is

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if he can take you to your grave,

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and fool you into thinking you had something

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that you didn't, and, you know, you spend

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eternity in hell, and that's that's tough. Yeah.

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That's tragic, and it it is. I think

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there's a lot of people in the church

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that way. Yeah. I do too. You know?

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And don't understand that God don't have no

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grandkids.

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You know? It's every person on his own

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face to face with him. And then,

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I don't know. It's a

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Well, now I know it's one of those

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things. I didn't didn't get saved until I

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was about 13 years old.

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And

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it was years

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before there was any doubt

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really that creeped in on me. I was,

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I don't know, in my mid twenties probably

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before I really started having, having those doubts.

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Let me tell you something. It's one thing

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to be fairly young and have those doubts.

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I mean, I remember there was some slight

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doubt there when I was younger and it

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kind of flitted through my mind, but it

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was

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it was fairly fleeting. By the time you're

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an adult

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you and you've you've made mistakes and you've

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you've tripped up and you've you've let those

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those rocks stumble,

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and you realize that you've been a stumbling

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block to a lot of people. Sure. Yeah.

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Boy, that make that questioning is a whole

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different level of questioning. And I think

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a lot of times people may not be,

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you know,

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have this happen when they are older, and

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they'll have those questions. You know, they get

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in college

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and they start getting things that make them

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doubt the faith in general. And then it

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starts making them doubt the you know, once

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you doubt the faith, you have to doubt

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the salvation because you can't have one without

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the other. Yeah. And

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you know, it just kind of I remember

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and it was like you said, it was

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I remember reaching a point where I just

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went, do I have a singular moment that

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I can go back to and say right

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there

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things were different. You know I didn't stop,

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didn't stop making mistakes, didn't stop tripping up

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and falling,

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but I'm like yeah at that point I

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became very aware

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every time I tripped, every time I slipped

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up, every time I did something I shouldn't

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have done, I was very aware of it

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whereas before

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you know it's kind of like well I

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shouldn't have done that and that was about

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as far as it went. After that it

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was like

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I shouldn't have done that and I feel

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sick about it for a week.

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I wonder too, that there are folks who

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have been,

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I don't know how to phrase this, but

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folks that have been just

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solid and good, raised in church, that have

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never strayed away or done anything crazy like

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that, and they're saved. But sometimes they doubt

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it because they don't have that great big

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huge testimony. Somebody will go, well, I was

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a crack addict and this and that. Right.

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Right. Yeah.

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I think I think for people that had

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to come out of that wild lifestyle and

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and God hit them like a lightning bolt,

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it just they can hang on to it

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easier a lot of times than somebody that's

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just been in it all their life. Really

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is. Yeah. You know, Tim Hawkins kind of

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does a joke about it. You know, he

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says,

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he says you watch all these people with

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these that's came through the, you know, drug

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addiction and near death and all those stuff.

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And Yeah. He says, man, I wish I

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had been on drugs. You know? No shot

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to come out of that. But Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, you you think your testimony is

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not as good, but really your testimony is

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a testimony. Amen. I mean, in in of

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itself that,

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you know, God's kept you. You had you

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had people beside you and It's the same

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miracle. Right? It's life out of death. Yeah.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. He went to the same place

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to get you that he did the drug

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addict, the alcoholic, the prostitute, or anybody else,

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you know. Yeah. I I can remember,

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Tyler mentioned, you know, in college, I I

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I remember having

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a psychology class,

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you know, I guess my freshman year. And,

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you know,

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the and and and we had a teacher

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that, you know, he threw all those those

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doubts at us. He threw all those. Well,

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what if, you know, well, wait just a

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minute now. I think it might be like

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this. It's not like this. And honestly, I

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didn't. I think I I was I was

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grounded. This is gonna sound crazy, but I

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was grounded enough to know that he wasn't

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that that there's there was no truth in

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what he was saying.

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But then I was also at that time

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in my life, I had walked away from

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the Lord and I was living a life

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that that wasn't right. You know, I was

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I was over here doing these things and

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then I was like, well, that's not right.

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You know? And God's over there like, well,

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why don't you get yourself right and stand

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up for it? You know? And then but

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I couldn't because I wasn't in that place.

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You know? I was kinda in those rendered

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useless times with the place that I was

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in.

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But, you know, thank God he was patient

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with me. I rededicated my life and and,

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he he welcomed me with open arms, but,

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but still we still we fall, still we,

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we stumble,

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throughout our Christian life. But, you know, James

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chapter 4,

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I mentioned this before we were, before we

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went live, but, excuse me, not James chapter

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4, but first John chapter 4 is one

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of those is one of those places. And

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then James also,

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I believe in chapter 4 is the same

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it kinda gives us some some,

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some meat to to know that we know

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that we know.

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And and one of the things that you

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can do if you're doubting your salvation,

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is try the spirit. You know? Right? And

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make sure that what you're listening to, that

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what you're hearing, there's a lot of false,

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false content out there. Yeah.

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1st John chapter 4, beloved, believe not every

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spirit, but try the spirits whether they are

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of God because many false prophets are gone

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out into the world. Hereby know you the

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spirit

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of God. Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus

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has come in the flesh is,

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is of God.

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But he goes on and he and he

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really and he really bears down on God

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is love. Now not that God is not

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also judge and all those things,

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but but he he talks about,

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loving one another and that loving your brother

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in Christ and all these things that, that's

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one of the ways that you know that

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you have Jesus in you. Right? I mean,

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that that you love other people. You love

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especially the brethren, the people that,

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verse 11 says, beloved, if God so loved

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us, we ought to love one another. No

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man has seen God at any time. If

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we love one another, God dwelleth in us,

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and his love is perfected

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in us. So hereby we know that we

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dwell in him and he in us because

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he hath given us his spirit.

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So, you know, there's things that we can

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do and

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to to

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to say, okay. You know,

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what do what do I know is truth?

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And then how do we know what's truth?

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We go to the word, and then we

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try that with the spirit that lives in

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us. Yeah. And just a just a couple

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more verses down. It says, whoever confesses that

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Jesus is the son of God, God abides

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in him and he in God. Amen. Amen.

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Who do you say Jesus is? That's right.

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Right? That's exactly right. Yeah.

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Yeah. Amen. Amen.

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So so, you know, you might be out

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there today and you might be doubting. You

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may be,

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you may be going through this,

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you know, over over the years,

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especially the last 18 years pastoring,

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they they I've had a lot of people

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come up to me and say, brother Brian,

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I'm you know, I just don't know. How

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do I know? How do I know? How

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do I know?

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And and it's really I I can give

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you all the scripture and and that's good

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and that works.

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But you really have to dig in yourself

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and you really have to go to him

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because it is a a personal relationship between

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you and and Christ. And it it comes

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down to trust, you know. Like one of

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the one of the verses I read last

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week in our our blitzkrieg of verses, you

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know,

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which was so much fun by the way.

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That that was awesome. Yeah. So you gotta

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go listen to the last last podcast. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. But in John John chapter 10,

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Jesus says, my sheep hear my voice and

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I know them and they follow me and

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I give eternal life to them and they

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will never perish and no one will snatch

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them out of my hand. Amen. See, this

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doesn't belong to us. Yeah. Yeah. The he's

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got us. That's right. He's got there's so

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much going on at the point of salvation

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when you first believe

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that that that can't be undone. It can't

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be you can't be unborn again. Yeah. Yeah.

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Because it's it's literally a new birth. You're

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born into Adam, then you're born into Christ.

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And that's where those elated feelings come from.

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It's a brand new birth. Yeah. But yeah.

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But eventually they kinda just kinda fade and

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we start doubting. Right. And and you know

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salvation

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salvation is not about a feeling,

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but it does bring about feelings. It does.

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You know, it I mean, it it brings

530
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about emotion. It brings about feelings, but but

531
00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:19,430
your emotion and your neighbor's emotion may be

532
00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:21,590
2 different things. And I think that's where

533
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:23,375
the church makes it a little difficult for

534
00:19:23,375 --> 00:19:25,934
people at sometimes because we say it's gotta

535
00:19:25,934 --> 00:19:28,414
look a certain way. Yeah. You know? Oh,

536
00:19:28,414 --> 00:19:30,494
you got saved last week? Oh, did you

537
00:19:30,494 --> 00:19:32,035
get up shouting and running,

538
00:19:32,575 --> 00:19:34,515
you know, jumping the pews and

539
00:19:34,829 --> 00:19:36,669
and and, you know, what Did you dance?

540
00:19:36,669 --> 00:19:39,150
Yeah. Did what happened? You know? Did you

541
00:19:39,150 --> 00:19:41,789
did you cry? You know? Did you were

542
00:19:41,789 --> 00:19:43,329
there any tears? And,

543
00:19:43,630 --> 00:19:45,809
you know, there's the and and and people

544
00:19:45,869 --> 00:19:48,609
are different. They're different in their emotions, but

545
00:19:48,784 --> 00:19:50,704
but man, God can do the same thing

546
00:19:50,704 --> 00:19:53,585
in their heart. Right? Yep. And so the

547
00:19:53,585 --> 00:19:54,565
way they feel

548
00:19:54,865 --> 00:19:56,625
when they get saved may not be the

549
00:19:56,625 --> 00:19:58,784
way you feel or the person besides you

550
00:19:58,784 --> 00:20:01,024
feels. I I know people in our church

551
00:20:01,024 --> 00:20:03,029
that they worship different. You know, there's so

552
00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:05,269
many people that worship different. You'll see people

553
00:20:05,269 --> 00:20:05,769
that,

554
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:08,789
that that will shout. You'll see people that

555
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:11,269
will cry. You'll see people that, you know,

556
00:20:11,269 --> 00:20:13,049
may get up and raise their hand.

557
00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:16,454
You know, all these all these different styles

558
00:20:16,615 --> 00:20:18,694
and things of worship that that come out

559
00:20:18,694 --> 00:20:21,494
of of the of the holy spirit moving

560
00:20:21,494 --> 00:20:21,994
us,

561
00:20:22,454 --> 00:20:24,375
and and you say that, but then you

562
00:20:24,375 --> 00:20:26,934
may see somebody just be still. Right? Yeah.

563
00:20:26,934 --> 00:20:28,774
And and just be in awe of God.

564
00:20:28,774 --> 00:20:30,759
And I don't know. I guess I'm all

565
00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:31,319
kind of,

566
00:20:31,799 --> 00:20:33,880
I I I may be a bipolar Christian.

567
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,240
I don't know if anybody would say it

568
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,880
maybe. But I mean sometimes I cry. Sometimes

569
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,839
I shout. Sometimes sometimes I when we're singing

570
00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:43,480
in the choir especially sometimes sometimes I just

571
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,174
stop singing. And I just close my eyes

572
00:20:47,115 --> 00:20:48,174
and I just listen.

573
00:20:48,474 --> 00:20:50,315
I just listen to God's people and I

574
00:20:50,315 --> 00:20:52,474
listen to the church as they as they're

575
00:20:52,474 --> 00:20:55,115
singing and and they're they're lifting their voices

576
00:20:55,115 --> 00:20:56,970
up to him and man it's just oh

577
00:20:56,970 --> 00:20:58,730
my gosh it just fills me up. Yeah.

578
00:20:58,730 --> 00:21:00,509
There's just something about it you know?

579
00:21:01,130 --> 00:21:03,769
Yeah. Yeah. You're exactly right. I I'm I'm

580
00:21:03,769 --> 00:21:05,470
more subdued you know.

581
00:21:05,849 --> 00:21:07,769
I'd rather I'd rather fall on my face.

582
00:21:07,769 --> 00:21:10,089
Yeah. You know? And and, I'm not honest

583
00:21:10,089 --> 00:21:12,455
about hooting hollering guy but but can be.

584
00:21:12,455 --> 00:21:15,015
I I have. Sure. Sure. But, it and

585
00:21:15,015 --> 00:21:16,775
and it's it's like it's kinda like praying

586
00:21:16,775 --> 00:21:19,195
styles, you know? Yeah. Some some people pray

587
00:21:19,414 --> 00:21:21,095
always on their knees. Some people just pray

588
00:21:21,095 --> 00:21:24,234
wherever they are. Right. But everybody's different. Yeah.

589
00:21:24,695 --> 00:21:26,429
Amen. No. You know, I mean, I'm sure

590
00:21:26,429 --> 00:21:28,990
it's a major surprise to anybody that knows

591
00:21:28,990 --> 00:21:30,750
me, but I'm I'm fairly reserved and I'm

592
00:21:30,750 --> 00:21:33,089
not overly emotional, generally speaking.

593
00:21:34,349 --> 00:21:34,849
But,

594
00:21:35,230 --> 00:21:37,630
yeah, I I remember, you know, that was

595
00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,309
one of the things that made me question

596
00:21:39,309 --> 00:21:41,174
a lot when I got older was looking

597
00:21:41,174 --> 00:21:43,014
back at that one moment I can remember.

598
00:21:43,014 --> 00:21:44,454
I know there was a change. I know

599
00:21:44,454 --> 00:21:45,674
I can see the changes

600
00:21:46,054 --> 00:21:47,994
from a just tracking

601
00:21:48,855 --> 00:21:51,014
what I what I thought, how I looked

602
00:21:51,014 --> 00:21:53,575
at things, how I viewed things before and

603
00:21:53,575 --> 00:21:54,075
after,

604
00:21:55,014 --> 00:21:57,480
different. Yeah. Right? I can point to that.

605
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:57,980
Yeah.

606
00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,460
But I wouldn't. I didn't get up shouting.

607
00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:02,360
I didn't get down there and start squalling

608
00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,380
my eyes out and crying and and just

609
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,000
beating myself up and flagellating all over the

610
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,480
place and banging on the altar. And I

611
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:09,980
mean,

612
00:22:10,755 --> 00:22:13,015
you know, and then you you see people

613
00:22:13,315 --> 00:22:14,755
go through those kind of things and you're

614
00:22:14,755 --> 00:22:16,595
like, man, did I really get it? Yeah.

615
00:22:16,595 --> 00:22:18,914
Did I really do anything? And and that's

616
00:22:18,914 --> 00:22:20,695
the thing because like you say, the churches

617
00:22:21,154 --> 00:22:23,154
some churches, I'm not gonna say all because

618
00:22:23,154 --> 00:22:24,429
it's not an all church thing. I do

619
00:22:24,429 --> 00:22:26,450
want to be clear. It is certain

620
00:22:27,150 --> 00:22:30,849
certain even within denominations, it's certain churches individually

621
00:22:30,910 --> 00:22:32,910
have a tendency to push. They want to

622
00:22:32,910 --> 00:22:36,210
see some very specific thing before they're gonna

623
00:22:36,670 --> 00:22:38,565
and then they feel like they need to

624
00:22:38,565 --> 00:22:39,065
confirm

625
00:22:39,684 --> 00:22:41,845
that, oh yeah, you got saved. And it's

626
00:22:41,845 --> 00:22:42,345
like,

627
00:22:42,884 --> 00:22:44,964
that must be real. Yeah, it's like, well,

628
00:22:44,964 --> 00:22:47,464
where does that come from? I can't find,

629
00:22:47,684 --> 00:22:49,304
you know, I can't find any of that.

630
00:22:50,884 --> 00:22:53,450
And I remember that was so difficult for

631
00:22:53,450 --> 00:22:55,609
me when I started having those questions, and

632
00:22:55,609 --> 00:22:57,549
I started doubting, and I started wondering,

633
00:22:58,090 --> 00:22:59,930
and and like I say, but I'm not

634
00:22:59,930 --> 00:23:01,849
a very emotional person. I mean, for me,

635
00:23:01,849 --> 00:23:03,369
it's a lot of times it comes down

636
00:23:03,369 --> 00:23:04,970
to the numbers, and it's like, okay, what

637
00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:06,315
did I think about this

638
00:23:07,274 --> 00:23:09,214
then? What do I think about it now?

639
00:23:09,434 --> 00:23:11,754
It's like oh yeah, then it was like

640
00:23:11,754 --> 00:23:13,274
well that's a thing you shouldn't do. Now

641
00:23:13,274 --> 00:23:14,575
it's oh that's a sin.

642
00:23:15,434 --> 00:23:17,115
And it's like where did that line come

643
00:23:17,115 --> 00:23:19,034
from? I was taught what I had been

644
00:23:19,034 --> 00:23:21,059
taught was zero difference

645
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,599
30 seconds before I got saved and 30

646
00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:24,500
seconds after,

647
00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:27,299
but I suddenly looked at sin as being

648
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,440
sin. This is something that separates me from

649
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,879
God, not this is just a thing you're

650
00:23:30,879 --> 00:23:33,234
not supposed to do. Because I do remember

651
00:23:33,294 --> 00:23:34,674
before I got saved.

652
00:23:35,214 --> 00:23:38,194
That's what sin was. I'd had it explained.

653
00:23:38,575 --> 00:23:40,335
I'd had it expanded. I grew up listening

654
00:23:40,335 --> 00:23:42,575
and grew, literally grew up listening to Moody

655
00:23:42,575 --> 00:23:44,670
radio and all the teachers on there

656
00:23:45,150 --> 00:23:47,570
that go into these deep explanations of things

657
00:23:47,869 --> 00:23:50,190
from the time my earliest memories, her dad

658
00:23:50,190 --> 00:23:51,309
listened to that when he's getting ready for

659
00:23:51,309 --> 00:23:52,910
work in the morning. Yeah. If I happen

660
00:23:52,910 --> 00:23:54,190
to wake up when he was awake at

661
00:23:54,190 --> 00:23:55,869
3:30 in the morning getting ready, I could

662
00:23:55,869 --> 00:23:58,190
hear that playing in his bathroom while he

663
00:23:58,190 --> 00:24:00,525
was getting getting ready in the morning. On

664
00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:02,045
Sunday mornings, I'd hear it play when they

665
00:24:02,045 --> 00:24:03,325
were in there getting ready on on his

666
00:24:03,325 --> 00:24:05,664
little clock radio he kept in there. And

667
00:24:06,605 --> 00:24:07,424
I remember

668
00:24:08,285 --> 00:24:08,785
that

669
00:24:09,244 --> 00:24:11,244
I'd been, you know, I'd been taught. It

670
00:24:11,244 --> 00:24:14,220
had been expounded and explained and explained. Sin

671
00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:16,640
is what separates you from God.

672
00:24:17,019 --> 00:24:19,179
That is why we need salvation. That's what

673
00:24:19,179 --> 00:24:21,259
salvation is for. It's what Christ did. He

674
00:24:21,259 --> 00:24:22,319
paid for the sin

675
00:24:22,619 --> 00:24:24,000
and all of these things,

676
00:24:24,299 --> 00:24:25,039
same explanation,

677
00:24:25,579 --> 00:24:27,715
but somehow in the back of my mind,

678
00:24:27,775 --> 00:24:29,375
it was just, oh, those are things you're

679
00:24:29,375 --> 00:24:30,595
not supposed to do.

680
00:24:32,015 --> 00:24:34,735
Yeah. It's it's it's more. It's more than

681
00:24:34,735 --> 00:24:36,735
that. Yeah. It is. It's good. I tell

682
00:24:36,735 --> 00:24:38,735
you, when I when I got saved, I

683
00:24:38,735 --> 00:24:40,250
was sitting in my living room. I believe

684
00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:40,830
it's 1991

685
00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:42,830
or something like that.

686
00:24:43,289 --> 00:24:45,309
Sitting in my living room watching Billy Graham.

687
00:24:46,090 --> 00:24:47,549
Mhmm. On television.

688
00:24:48,250 --> 00:24:48,650
And,

689
00:24:49,289 --> 00:24:51,369
I think I had some silent tears and

690
00:24:51,369 --> 00:24:51,869
immediately,

691
00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:55,025
I went looking for a Bible. Yeah. That

692
00:24:55,205 --> 00:24:57,525
was my reaction. I didn't go jumping over

693
00:24:57,525 --> 00:24:59,384
couches and and, you know,

694
00:24:59,765 --> 00:25:01,384
doing back flips and stuff.

695
00:25:01,765 --> 00:25:03,445
And we didn't have one in the house.

696
00:25:03,445 --> 00:25:04,805
And so I went to my mother in

697
00:25:04,805 --> 00:25:06,404
law's house and and she had a Precious

698
00:25:06,404 --> 00:25:07,319
Moments Bible.

699
00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:10,519
And so my first bible right after I

700
00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:12,539
got saved was a precious moments bible.

701
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,960
And it works. It does. Yeah, man. It

702
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,279
does. And what you know, just grabbing a

703
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:19,579
hold of the word of God

704
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,740
and digging into it and,

705
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,795
you know, I

706
00:25:24,255 --> 00:25:25,055
I think that,

707
00:25:27,215 --> 00:25:28,894
let me let me let me look at

708
00:25:28,894 --> 00:25:30,275
this for just a second, but

709
00:25:30,894 --> 00:25:32,815
when we think about what it's supposed to

710
00:25:32,815 --> 00:25:34,115
look like to be a Christian,

711
00:25:37,055 --> 00:25:39,359
we've got we've got this we've got this

712
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,440
thing down pat, you know. Go to church

713
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,039
on Sunday morning, go to church on Sunday

714
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:44,799
night, go to church on Wednesday night. And

715
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:46,240
I'm not saying you you need to do

716
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,180
those things, but the reason behind them

717
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:50,799
is what really matters. Right? And and and

718
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:52,454
go to bible study, go to these things,

719
00:25:53,255 --> 00:25:55,894
and and, you know, pray during the day,

720
00:25:55,894 --> 00:25:56,554
you know,

721
00:25:57,255 --> 00:25:59,174
and we talked about different things in here

722
00:25:59,174 --> 00:26:01,414
before where you just check the boxes. And

723
00:26:01,414 --> 00:26:03,255
and sometimes I think we think salvation is

724
00:26:03,255 --> 00:26:04,855
we look at somebody else and we say,

725
00:26:04,855 --> 00:26:06,359
okay, brother so and so,

726
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,480
saint of God. You know, he's a great

727
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,720
man of God and so I'm gonna pattern

728
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,279
my life after him, but you really need

729
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:15,740
to dig into your own relationship.

730
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:18,460
You know? I mean, I I come on.

731
00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:20,755
If you if you got a dad and

732
00:26:20,755 --> 00:26:22,454
and you got brothers and sisters,

733
00:26:23,075 --> 00:26:24,835
you know what? I mean, you all don't

734
00:26:24,835 --> 00:26:26,994
have the same relationship with your dad because

735
00:26:26,994 --> 00:26:29,815
you're individual people. Right? Right. And so

736
00:26:30,515 --> 00:26:32,375
and so your your your relationship

737
00:26:32,755 --> 00:26:33,654
with your dad,

738
00:26:34,309 --> 00:26:36,009
it it it depends on

739
00:26:36,309 --> 00:26:38,710
the the both of you. Right? His desire

740
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:40,549
to know you and your desire to know

741
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:42,549
him. Well, the good thing about God is

742
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:44,869
he knows you. Right? He knows you inside

743
00:26:44,869 --> 00:26:46,329
out, upside down, sideways.

744
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:48,785
So really the ball's in your court. How

745
00:26:48,785 --> 00:26:50,785
well do you want to know him? Yeah.

746
00:26:50,785 --> 00:26:53,345
And if you've been saved, you're going to

747
00:26:53,345 --> 00:26:54,484
have a desire

748
00:26:54,865 --> 00:26:57,025
to know the father. You're gonna have a

749
00:26:57,025 --> 00:26:58,724
desire to grow close to him.

750
00:26:59,265 --> 00:27:01,265
There's gonna be times in your life where

751
00:27:01,265 --> 00:27:02,644
where there's gonna be

752
00:27:02,970 --> 00:27:03,710
some separation.

753
00:27:04,169 --> 00:27:05,470
There's gonna be some,

754
00:27:06,970 --> 00:27:09,210
say, on your part, you know, with you

755
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:11,849
wanting to be distant from him because I

756
00:27:12,089 --> 00:27:13,789
you know, I I had a good father.

757
00:27:14,169 --> 00:27:16,329
Not everybody does. I understand that, but I

758
00:27:16,329 --> 00:27:17,295
had a good father.

759
00:27:17,855 --> 00:27:19,695
And when I done when I was doing

760
00:27:19,695 --> 00:27:21,234
things that I knew were wrong,

761
00:27:21,695 --> 00:27:23,615
I I didn't really particularly wanna be around

762
00:27:23,615 --> 00:27:24,975
him a lot, you know, because it made

763
00:27:24,975 --> 00:27:26,414
me feel bad. Yeah. And so it's the

764
00:27:26,414 --> 00:27:28,255
same way with God. When we're doing things

765
00:27:28,255 --> 00:27:29,880
that we know are wrong, we don't wanna

766
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,320
be around him. We don't wanna be around

767
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,160
his people. We don't wanna be around we

768
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,700
don't wanna open up his word.

769
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:39,000
So but but that desire that desire in

770
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,924
your heart, sometimes we we we push it

771
00:27:41,924 --> 00:27:42,424
down,

772
00:27:43,285 --> 00:27:45,205
but but let it come to the surface.

773
00:27:45,205 --> 00:27:47,045
Let it get those things out of the

774
00:27:47,045 --> 00:27:49,045
way, and maybe it's the music you're listening

775
00:27:49,045 --> 00:27:51,205
to that's holding you back from him. Maybe

776
00:27:51,205 --> 00:27:53,205
it's the TV shows that you're watching or

777
00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:55,045
the movies you're watching that are holding you

778
00:27:55,045 --> 00:27:55,829
back from him,

779
00:27:56,309 --> 00:27:58,149
you know, because when you're when you're watching

780
00:27:58,149 --> 00:28:00,630
those you just again you just I can't

781
00:28:00,630 --> 00:28:02,710
watch this and have a good relationship with

782
00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:05,269
him. So, you know, God I'll come back

783
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:07,349
to you later. That's our that's our thing.

784
00:28:07,349 --> 00:28:08,775
Yeah. Everything's compartmentalized.

785
00:28:09,315 --> 00:28:10,835
It really is. Yeah. We'll put put our

786
00:28:10,835 --> 00:28:12,355
religion over here and we'll put this and

787
00:28:12,355 --> 00:28:15,154
that. We'll just satisfy ourselves. We'll separate it.

788
00:28:15,154 --> 00:28:15,815
But but

789
00:28:16,275 --> 00:28:17,634
like you said, I mean, there ought to

790
00:28:17,634 --> 00:28:19,554
be this hunger and this thirst going on

791
00:28:19,554 --> 00:28:21,269
inside of us us a little bit, and

792
00:28:21,890 --> 00:28:23,650
it'll it'll it'll fade. It'll fade at times.

793
00:28:23,650 --> 00:28:25,670
Yeah. But and that's where discipline comes in.

794
00:28:25,809 --> 00:28:27,170
And when and when you feel further from

795
00:28:27,170 --> 00:28:29,029
him and and maybe you're doubting your salvation

796
00:28:29,089 --> 00:28:29,829
right now,

797
00:28:30,690 --> 00:28:32,289
get back in his word. Get back under

798
00:28:32,289 --> 00:28:34,115
prayer and and just see where that leads

799
00:28:34,115 --> 00:28:35,714
you because all of a sudden you'll feel

800
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,474
that peace again. You'll feel that joy because

801
00:28:37,474 --> 00:28:39,554
he's always waiting on you. Yeah. Yeah. All

802
00:28:39,554 --> 00:28:40,914
you gotta do is make the first move.

803
00:28:40,914 --> 00:28:43,075
That's right. It and it's like you said,

804
00:28:43,075 --> 00:28:45,474
it's discipline over desire. It is. It is.

805
00:28:45,474 --> 00:28:46,730
And it can be it can be that

806
00:28:46,730 --> 00:28:48,409
way for a long time in your life,

807
00:28:48,409 --> 00:28:50,169
you know, where you I don't wanna study

808
00:28:50,169 --> 00:28:52,490
the Bible today. Yeah. But man, that's when

809
00:28:52,490 --> 00:28:53,849
you need to do it the most. That's

810
00:28:53,849 --> 00:28:56,349
exactly right. Same with prayer, same with church.

811
00:28:56,490 --> 00:28:58,329
Yeah. Because because something's trying to keep you

812
00:28:58,329 --> 00:28:59,775
away from it and God's trying to grow

813
00:28:59,775 --> 00:29:01,535
you through it. Yeah. That's why the Bible

814
00:29:01,535 --> 00:29:03,934
tells us to to surround ourselves with songs

815
00:29:03,934 --> 00:29:06,174
and hymns and spiritual songs. Yes. What he's

816
00:29:06,174 --> 00:29:08,174
saying there is just just surround your things

817
00:29:08,174 --> 00:29:10,755
with yourself with the things of God. Yeah.

818
00:29:10,815 --> 00:29:12,515
The things that that will,

819
00:29:12,975 --> 00:29:15,710
that will bring you up, that will hold

820
00:29:15,710 --> 00:29:17,730
you up, that will stir to you,

821
00:29:18,350 --> 00:29:20,930
you know, building your house upon the rock

822
00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:22,750
Yeah. And not on the sand. Yeah. It's

823
00:29:22,750 --> 00:29:24,509
like it's like peer pressure. Neither are these.

824
00:29:24,509 --> 00:29:26,029
Right. And and I don't care how old

825
00:29:26,029 --> 00:29:27,734
you are or how tough you are. Yeah.

826
00:29:27,894 --> 00:29:29,255
What who you hang around is what you

827
00:29:29,255 --> 00:29:31,015
act like. Yeah. Yeah. And you hang around

828
00:29:31,015 --> 00:29:32,615
God and you're gonna start to think like

829
00:29:32,615 --> 00:29:34,694
Him. You're gonna start to you're gonna fulfill

830
00:29:34,694 --> 00:29:36,295
the law and the prophets is what Jesus

831
00:29:36,295 --> 00:29:38,375
said. Yeah. Love God and love others and

832
00:29:38,375 --> 00:29:40,375
that that's where all the law and the

833
00:29:40,375 --> 00:29:42,509
prophets hang. Yeah. And and Paul said in

834
00:29:42,509 --> 00:29:44,430
Galatians, you know, that that's that's where we

835
00:29:44,430 --> 00:29:46,670
fulfill that stuff. Mhmm. We start to naturally

836
00:29:46,670 --> 00:29:48,589
wanna do those things because we're so close

837
00:29:48,589 --> 00:29:50,269
to him. Yeah. Mhmm. I think a lot

838
00:29:50,269 --> 00:29:51,549
of it is too because we don't trust

839
00:29:51,549 --> 00:29:53,390
the spirit in us. Yeah. You know? And

840
00:29:53,390 --> 00:29:53,890
and

841
00:29:54,190 --> 00:29:56,670
so, we don't trust it for strength. And

842
00:29:56,670 --> 00:29:59,285
so we we get in these situations and

843
00:29:59,285 --> 00:30:00,105
we we

844
00:30:01,045 --> 00:30:03,605
we give up or, to ourselves to the

845
00:30:03,605 --> 00:30:04,105
flesh,

846
00:30:04,884 --> 00:30:07,125
over the spirit. Yeah. The flesh is not

847
00:30:07,125 --> 00:30:08,505
stronger than the spirit

848
00:30:08,965 --> 00:30:09,599
at all,

849
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:12,319
But but we give we give place to

850
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:13,619
the flesh and we say,

851
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,160
and we don't trust the spirit. Hey. You

852
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,079
know, I I the the spirit of God

853
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:19,919
can get me out of the situation. Right?

854
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:21,599
Because he tells us that there is a

855
00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:24,240
way out of every sin of every sinful

856
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,095
situation. There's a way out of it. Yes.

857
00:30:26,095 --> 00:30:27,954
The most misquoted verse in the Bible.

858
00:30:28,575 --> 00:30:29,954
Yeah. What was it?

859
00:30:30,815 --> 00:30:32,174
God won't put more on you than you

860
00:30:32,174 --> 00:30:32,835
can handle.

861
00:30:33,375 --> 00:30:35,054
That's how people use it, but yeah, He

862
00:30:35,054 --> 00:30:36,034
will. There are martyrs.

863
00:30:36,494 --> 00:30:38,069
There are people who are dead from it.

864
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:40,389
That's exactly right. But he won't be let

865
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:42,309
you be tempted beyond what you're able to

866
00:30:42,309 --> 00:30:43,669
handle, but with it, we'll make a way

867
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:45,829
of escape. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. But we gotta

868
00:30:45,829 --> 00:30:47,349
fight. We don't we don't stand up. And

869
00:30:47,349 --> 00:30:49,849
that's the thing. I mean, we are flesh.

870
00:30:50,404 --> 00:30:52,085
And so you like you say, it's not

871
00:30:52,085 --> 00:30:54,644
the the flesh is stronger, but that's what

872
00:30:54,644 --> 00:30:56,884
we are. Yeah. I mean, we are a

873
00:30:56,884 --> 00:30:58,904
spirit, but we haven't experienced

874
00:31:00,005 --> 00:31:02,325
that yet. Yeah. We don't un we don't

875
00:31:02,325 --> 00:31:04,184
fully comprehend that. Our entire

876
00:31:04,804 --> 00:31:05,704
view of

877
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:07,220
everything is

878
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,799
through these eyes, these ears. Yeah. That's a

879
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:13,380
gateway. You know? And and because of that,

880
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,900
it's so much harder to to to be

881
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,640
attuned, I guess, is the best way to

882
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,960
word it, into the things of the spirit

883
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,654
because we we just haven't experienced

884
00:31:23,035 --> 00:31:23,535
that

885
00:31:24,154 --> 00:31:26,715
existence yet. Yeah. Now I say yet because

886
00:31:26,715 --> 00:31:28,955
it's coming. But but it's a huge reason

887
00:31:28,955 --> 00:31:30,154
why we need to be in church, ain't

888
00:31:30,154 --> 00:31:32,735
it? Absolutely. And that peer pressure is strong.

889
00:31:32,795 --> 00:31:34,494
Yeah. And and You gotta tune that dial.

890
00:31:34,955 --> 00:31:36,269
And and I'm guilty of this too, but

891
00:31:36,349 --> 00:31:37,950
but when church is over, let's talk about

892
00:31:37,950 --> 00:31:40,369
Jesus. Let's don't talk about football game. Right.

893
00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:42,670
Right. We're we're with other believers. Let's take

894
00:31:42,670 --> 00:31:43,950
advantage of it. We got a lot of

895
00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:45,950
idle words that we're gonna have to ask

896
00:31:45,950 --> 00:31:48,349
for really one day. But but, yeah, I

897
00:31:48,349 --> 00:31:48,849
mean,

898
00:31:49,309 --> 00:31:49,809
we

899
00:31:50,194 --> 00:31:51,954
we we see and he talked about that

900
00:31:51,954 --> 00:31:54,035
verse being misquoted and it and it really

901
00:31:54,035 --> 00:31:56,115
is. And and like I said, well, it's

902
00:31:56,115 --> 00:31:59,154
it's whatever you feed. Right? Yeah. It's whatever

903
00:31:59,154 --> 00:32:01,394
you feed is what's the strongest. Paul said

904
00:32:01,394 --> 00:32:02,835
I die daily. Yeah.

905
00:32:03,474 --> 00:32:05,170
I don't know that I die daily.

906
00:32:05,869 --> 00:32:07,630
You know what I'm saying? Not not like

907
00:32:07,630 --> 00:32:09,710
I should. Of course, we're all going through

908
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:10,289
the sanctification

909
00:32:10,670 --> 00:32:12,990
process and we're all, you know, he's bringing

910
00:32:12,990 --> 00:32:15,230
us to him in a closer relationship with

911
00:32:15,230 --> 00:32:16,529
him each and every day.

912
00:32:17,085 --> 00:32:19,164
That's the thing that should be happening. But

913
00:32:19,164 --> 00:32:20,924
when I start feeding the flesh more than

914
00:32:20,924 --> 00:32:22,845
I feed the spirit, then I'm I'm giving

915
00:32:22,845 --> 00:32:24,684
life to the flesh again. You know, they're

916
00:32:24,684 --> 00:32:25,664
like, I was like,

917
00:32:26,765 --> 00:32:28,865
I just killed that yesterday and you resuscitated

918
00:32:29,005 --> 00:32:30,444
it today. What'd you do that for? You

919
00:32:30,444 --> 00:32:32,160
know, when you brought it, you brought it

920
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,000
it back to life. Yeah. And you're yeah.

921
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
I mean, I'm out here bringing people to

922
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,599
life and you're out here bringing the flesh

923
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:39,359
to life. And that's that's the problem. You

924
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,440
Yeah. And if you're a Christian, the only

925
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,799
thing you've ever brought to life is the

926
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:44,714
flesh, then you might wanna check up. Yeah.

927
00:32:44,794 --> 00:32:46,634
Mhmm. Yeah. It's kinda like an addiction. Right?

928
00:32:46,634 --> 00:32:47,914
That you just keep going back to that

929
00:32:47,914 --> 00:32:49,835
same thing. God cleans you up and then

930
00:32:49,835 --> 00:32:52,154
all that. It's pretty good. And we're just

931
00:32:52,154 --> 00:32:54,894
lazy, man. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Spiritually, it's lazy.

932
00:32:54,954 --> 00:32:56,554
It's just it it's easier to go back

933
00:32:56,554 --> 00:32:57,679
to it. It. Yeah. At the end of

934
00:32:57,679 --> 00:32:59,619
the day, it's just easier. Yeah. Right.

935
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,619
And the thing is the thing is

936
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:02,900
we

937
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,259
I think part of it is the fear

938
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:07,539
of just saying

939
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:09,815
sin is sin. Yeah.

940
00:33:10,115 --> 00:33:11,734
We we we we're afraid.

941
00:33:12,115 --> 00:33:12,934
We're afraid

942
00:33:13,315 --> 00:33:16,274
because if people realize that we think this

943
00:33:16,274 --> 00:33:18,674
is sin, that is sin, they're what what

944
00:33:18,674 --> 00:33:20,355
are they gonna think? How are they gonna

945
00:33:20,355 --> 00:33:21,634
look at us? How are they gonna feel

946
00:33:21,634 --> 00:33:23,554
about us? Well, the answer is it don't

947
00:33:23,554 --> 00:33:26,420
really matter. Right. Yeah. It don't matter what

948
00:33:26,420 --> 00:33:28,420
they think because the fact of the matter

949
00:33:28,420 --> 00:33:30,420
is God has told us these things are

950
00:33:30,420 --> 00:33:33,460
sin. These things are are Yeah. Right. Are

951
00:33:33,460 --> 00:33:34,759
things that we should avoid

952
00:33:35,299 --> 00:33:36,920
and laid it out for us.

953
00:33:38,005 --> 00:33:40,484
Don't be afraid to say, Yeah, I'm not

954
00:33:40,484 --> 00:33:42,325
going to cross this line. Yeah, and you

955
00:33:42,325 --> 00:33:43,924
look at the law and prophets, and it's

956
00:33:43,924 --> 00:33:45,704
not like God's just being mean.

957
00:33:47,125 --> 00:33:49,765
He defines sin. He defines right and wrong

958
00:33:49,765 --> 00:33:50,825
to protect us.

959
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:52,559
You're just like a good father to a

960
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,319
child. You give them boundaries. You give them

961
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:56,160
rules. And don't go outside there. You're gonna

962
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,000
get hurt. Or somebody else is gonna get

963
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,440
hurt. And that's what it really is. Well,

964
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,799
and you you go back and look at

965
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:02,400
everything he did for the children of Israel

966
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,079
when they were coming out of Egypt. They're

967
00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:05,059
going through the desert,

968
00:34:05,365 --> 00:34:06,884
and he's saying, okay, I need you to

969
00:34:06,884 --> 00:34:08,565
do this, this, this, and he set up

970
00:34:08,565 --> 00:34:10,264
all these rules that seem to be

971
00:34:10,804 --> 00:34:11,545
on the surface

972
00:34:12,085 --> 00:34:12,585
crazy.

973
00:34:13,125 --> 00:34:13,945
Totally nonsensical.

974
00:34:14,324 --> 00:34:16,724
But ultimately, it was because he was protecting

975
00:34:16,724 --> 00:34:18,644
them. He was saying, okay, we've got to

976
00:34:18,644 --> 00:34:19,704
protect you from this.

977
00:34:20,030 --> 00:34:21,150
And and you look back at some of

978
00:34:21,150 --> 00:34:22,750
the rules he had for him and we

979
00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:24,429
now know that, oh, yeah, because of wearing

980
00:34:24,429 --> 00:34:27,010
that particular type of fabric actually helped

981
00:34:27,949 --> 00:34:29,949
reduce the chances that you're going to have

982
00:34:29,949 --> 00:34:32,190
stuff that starts chafing and cutting and causing

983
00:34:32,190 --> 00:34:34,434
these problems that you would you're gonna have

984
00:34:34,434 --> 00:34:36,755
less disease. And then by doing these things

985
00:34:36,755 --> 00:34:38,454
when somebody dies or when somebody's

986
00:34:38,755 --> 00:34:40,434
sick or when somebody's going through this or

987
00:34:40,434 --> 00:34:42,914
going through that, and by removing these things

988
00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:44,614
and treating them a certain way,

989
00:34:44,994 --> 00:34:47,554
you're reducing the exposure to things that are

990
00:34:47,554 --> 00:34:49,769
gonna kill them. And it's like they didn't

991
00:34:49,769 --> 00:34:52,170
know that. They didn't understand germs back then,

992
00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:55,050
but everything God did, the food, the manna

993
00:34:55,050 --> 00:34:56,489
that He provided for them, and then even

994
00:34:56,489 --> 00:34:58,170
after that by saying here's the foods that

995
00:34:58,170 --> 00:35:00,170
you need to be eating, it was all

996
00:35:00,170 --> 00:35:01,949
stuff that it's like, okay,

997
00:35:02,650 --> 00:35:03,949
when you look at the

998
00:35:05,525 --> 00:35:07,045
food in the area and the things that

999
00:35:07,045 --> 00:35:08,885
they were given, it was it was all

1000
00:35:08,885 --> 00:35:11,204
stuff that protected them from these things that

1001
00:35:11,204 --> 00:35:13,144
were harming everyone else around them.

1002
00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:15,445
God doesn't do this for no reason. The

1003
00:35:15,445 --> 00:35:18,179
commandments are the same way. The laws around

1004
00:35:18,179 --> 00:35:19,559
sin are the same way.

1005
00:35:19,940 --> 00:35:21,219
And at the end of the day, it

1006
00:35:21,219 --> 00:35:22,679
was man that took over

1007
00:35:23,059 --> 00:35:24,119
and messed it up.

1008
00:35:24,739 --> 00:35:27,219
It was when we started trying to expound

1009
00:35:27,219 --> 00:35:29,699
on it. Yeah. And plus there are spiritual

1010
00:35:29,699 --> 00:35:31,425
reasons behind some of this stuff too, right?

1011
00:35:31,585 --> 00:35:33,025
It's like Paul lays out an example. I

1012
00:35:33,025 --> 00:35:34,304
can't remember where it is, but he said

1013
00:35:34,304 --> 00:35:36,144
he said, do you really think that he

1014
00:35:36,144 --> 00:35:36,885
told them

1015
00:35:37,184 --> 00:35:39,265
don't muzzle the ox while it's treading out

1016
00:35:39,265 --> 00:35:40,945
the grain? Or I can't remember how exactly

1017
00:35:40,945 --> 00:35:42,304
it goes. Yeah. So you really think that

1018
00:35:42,304 --> 00:35:45,025
God was concerned about the ox? Yeah. Yeah.

1019
00:35:45,025 --> 00:35:45,925
Right? Yeah.

1020
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,280
He's given us examples of some of this

1021
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,679
stuff. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. And

1022
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:52,440
I think that case he's talking about paying

1023
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,539
your preacher kind of thing. You know? Yeah.

1024
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:57,019
Yeah. Pay pay somebody that's working for you.

1025
00:35:57,159 --> 00:35:58,679
Or take care of those who are sharing

1026
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:00,554
the gospel. Take care of those who are

1027
00:36:00,635 --> 00:36:02,954
who are who are, you know, furthering the

1028
00:36:02,954 --> 00:36:04,974
kingdom of God and and but yeah.

1029
00:36:06,155 --> 00:36:08,074
But but yeah. So there's there's just so

1030
00:36:08,074 --> 00:36:10,094
many things that we need to think about.

1031
00:36:11,434 --> 00:36:14,234
When when we're when when Satan starts coming

1032
00:36:14,234 --> 00:36:15,934
at us and question, you know,

1033
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,239
is there anything wrong with saying, Lord, if

1034
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,300
I'm not saved,

1035
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,400
if if if if if I would if

1036
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,320
I died right now and and I would

1037
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,139
go to hell,

1038
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:28,199
Lord, I don't wanna do that. And maybe

1039
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:29,960
you're in the church, maybe you're a deacon,

1040
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,019
maybe you're whatever.

1041
00:36:31,554 --> 00:36:33,315
Is there anything wrong with going and saying,

1042
00:36:33,315 --> 00:36:34,295
Lord, if if there's

1043
00:36:34,835 --> 00:36:36,355
if if I don't have it, I want

1044
00:36:36,355 --> 00:36:39,074
it. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

1045
00:36:39,074 --> 00:36:41,474
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. At any

1046
00:36:41,474 --> 00:36:42,934
point in your life. Yeah.

1047
00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:44,929
Listen. We were on the mission trip this

1048
00:36:44,929 --> 00:36:45,809
time and and,

1049
00:36:46,690 --> 00:36:48,049
we had a really good service,

1050
00:36:48,530 --> 00:36:49,909
that that one Sunday

1051
00:36:50,369 --> 00:36:52,530
and and Nicole hit the altar. My wife

1052
00:36:52,530 --> 00:36:54,289
hit the altar. I've been a pastor's wife

1053
00:36:54,289 --> 00:36:56,684
for 18 years and she hit the alter

1054
00:36:56,684 --> 00:36:58,285
and she come up and she said, Brian,

1055
00:36:58,285 --> 00:37:00,285
she said, I needed that today. I needed

1056
00:37:00,285 --> 00:37:02,445
this today. Yeah. Something is different in me

1057
00:37:02,445 --> 00:37:04,765
right now, you know? And and it was

1058
00:37:04,765 --> 00:37:07,885
not that that, she got saved that day,

1059
00:37:07,885 --> 00:37:10,760
but but, I think Dennis really answered and

1060
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,599
gave her the words she needed. The Lord

1061
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:14,440
worked through you that day. He said he

1062
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,039
said, it's like you get saved a little

1063
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:19,559
bit more. Yeah. Yeah. Next level. Yeah. And

1064
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:21,400
that's what she said. She said, you know,

1065
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,875
she said, I just I I I needed

1066
00:37:23,875 --> 00:37:25,474
that. I was in I was in a

1067
00:37:25,474 --> 00:37:28,055
lull. I was in a, a a valley.

1068
00:37:28,115 --> 00:37:29,635
You know? I was in a place where

1069
00:37:29,635 --> 00:37:31,394
I needed God. I needed to feel his

1070
00:37:31,394 --> 00:37:33,715
presence and know him and and and she

1071
00:37:33,715 --> 00:37:35,155
did it that day. You know? I mean,

1072
00:37:35,155 --> 00:37:37,075
whatever it was God done in her heart

1073
00:37:37,075 --> 00:37:39,220
that day. And and she said, yeah. Let's

1074
00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:40,579
let's see it. You know? It's like I

1075
00:37:40,579 --> 00:37:42,660
got saved a little bit more today. Yeah.

1076
00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:44,579
It's it's kinda the essence of revival and

1077
00:37:44,579 --> 00:37:46,420
it's like because we can get so stale

1078
00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:48,740
and just down and things happen. Yeah. And,

1079
00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:50,340
man, we just get a new a new

1080
00:37:50,340 --> 00:37:52,579
feel. Yeah. Feel in the holy spirit, and

1081
00:37:52,579 --> 00:37:54,635
that's man, that's it. It is like go

1082
00:37:54,635 --> 00:37:56,155
taking a video game to the next level.

1083
00:37:56,155 --> 00:37:57,295
Right. That's like Yeah.

1084
00:37:57,835 --> 00:38:00,234
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Donkey Kong. I was

1085
00:38:00,234 --> 00:38:02,875
like, yeah. Next level. Yeah. So Mike Tyson

1086
00:38:02,875 --> 00:38:03,914
punched you out. But,

1087
00:38:06,155 --> 00:38:09,079
but yeah. So, you know, so there's nothing

1088
00:38:09,219 --> 00:38:11,460
there's nothing there's no shame in that. I

1089
00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:11,960
mean,

1090
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:15,719
the the worst thing that you could possibly

1091
00:38:15,779 --> 00:38:18,420
do is is is push those feelings down

1092
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:21,335
or push that that that urge down to

1093
00:38:21,335 --> 00:38:23,335
to go to God because you don't wanna

1094
00:38:23,335 --> 00:38:25,414
embarrass yourself or you don't you don't want

1095
00:38:25,414 --> 00:38:27,894
your husband or your wife to to think

1096
00:38:27,894 --> 00:38:29,894
that you're not saved or you don't want

1097
00:38:29,894 --> 00:38:31,655
your preacher to think you're not saved or

1098
00:38:31,655 --> 00:38:33,400
you're the people that you go to church

1099
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,840
with, you know, you don't want them to

1100
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,400
think anything. Oh my goodness. You know, what

1101
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,179
a tragedy it would be

1102
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,199
if if Satan, like I said before, keeps

1103
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:44,199
you in that place of thinking that you're

1104
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:46,474
okay when you're not. Right. You know, maybe

1105
00:38:46,474 --> 00:38:48,554
you are and maybe you just need to

1106
00:38:48,554 --> 00:38:50,474
be saved a little bit more, you know,

1107
00:38:50,474 --> 00:38:52,974
maybe whatever you wanna call it, maybe rededicate

1108
00:38:53,195 --> 00:38:55,934
your life, you know, grabbing hold of something

1109
00:38:56,795 --> 00:38:58,554
that God says, I won't give you something

1110
00:38:58,554 --> 00:38:59,295
right here,

1111
00:38:59,849 --> 00:39:02,410
that that you haven't experienced before. Whatever that

1112
00:39:02,410 --> 00:39:04,349
may be, whatever that may look like,

1113
00:39:04,809 --> 00:39:06,590
do not hesitate

1114
00:39:07,050 --> 00:39:10,010
today Amen. To to go before the throne

1115
00:39:10,010 --> 00:39:11,769
of God and go boldly. That's what he

1116
00:39:11,769 --> 00:39:13,530
wants you to do. Go boldly before the

1117
00:39:13,530 --> 00:39:15,945
throne of God and watch God act and

1118
00:39:15,945 --> 00:39:18,905
work in your life. Amen. Amen. And and

1119
00:39:18,905 --> 00:39:20,344
we got we got to learn to trust

1120
00:39:20,344 --> 00:39:21,864
too. You know? It I was just looking

1121
00:39:21,864 --> 00:39:22,844
at Romans 10,

1122
00:39:23,465 --> 00:39:24,744
verse 13 quotes,

1123
00:39:25,065 --> 00:39:27,880
quotes Joel. And it says, for who ever

1124
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,239
will call on the name of the Lord

1125
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,539
will be saved. Yeah.

1126
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:33,800
Yeah. God didn't die on the cross to

1127
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,960
make it harder That's right. Yeah. To give

1128
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,519
us more rules Amen. To to to limit

1129
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:40,599
the amount of people getting into heaven. He

1130
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:43,125
came to to make it easy. That's right.

1131
00:39:43,605 --> 00:39:44,885
All we have to do is believe. And

1132
00:39:44,885 --> 00:39:46,324
right before that, he said if you confess

1133
00:39:46,324 --> 00:39:48,085
with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe

1134
00:39:48,085 --> 00:39:49,605
in your heart that God raised him from

1135
00:39:49,605 --> 00:39:51,204
the dead, you will be saved. That's right.

1136
00:39:51,204 --> 00:39:53,364
For the heart, the person believes resulting in

1137
00:39:53,364 --> 00:39:53,864
righteousness,

1138
00:39:54,164 --> 00:39:56,164
and with the mouth he confesses resulting in

1139
00:39:56,164 --> 00:39:58,289
salvation. That's right. But trust in that. Right?

1140
00:39:58,289 --> 00:39:59,969
And I think if you've said those words,

1141
00:39:59,969 --> 00:40:01,650
if you said Jesus is Lord, if you've

1142
00:40:01,650 --> 00:40:03,969
called on the name of Jesus Yeah. You

1143
00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:05,809
know whether it was genuine or not. Yeah.

1144
00:40:05,809 --> 00:40:08,130
What what chapter, what verse is,

1145
00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:10,610
and and what book is the sinner's prayer

1146
00:40:10,610 --> 00:40:11,110
in?

1147
00:40:12,130 --> 00:40:12,630
Macedonians

1148
00:40:15,224 --> 00:40:15,724
chapter

1149
00:40:16,025 --> 00:40:17,324
12, I believe.

1150
00:40:19,224 --> 00:40:21,005
Look. I I don't wanna discount.

1151
00:40:21,704 --> 00:40:23,224
I I mean, I prayed and asked the

1152
00:40:23,224 --> 00:40:25,144
lord to come into my heart. I did,

1153
00:40:25,144 --> 00:40:26,744
you know, and and that's

1154
00:40:27,250 --> 00:40:29,690
but but listen, it's it's not even about

1155
00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:31,329
a I mean, it's about you talking to

1156
00:40:31,329 --> 00:40:33,250
God. Right? It is. You talking to God

1157
00:40:33,250 --> 00:40:36,050
is prayer, but it doesn't necessarily have to

1158
00:40:36,050 --> 00:40:36,550
be,

1159
00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:39,250
how you think it should look. It doesn't

1160
00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:41,010
have to be in the altar. It doesn't

1161
00:40:41,010 --> 00:40:41,829
have to be

1162
00:40:42,394 --> 00:40:43,295
at the church.

1163
00:40:43,594 --> 00:40:45,114
You don't have to be sitting in the

1164
00:40:45,114 --> 00:40:46,954
pew. You can be you can be at

1165
00:40:46,954 --> 00:40:48,655
the altar. You can be in your truck.

1166
00:40:48,875 --> 00:40:51,275
There there's there's nothing that says you got

1167
00:40:51,275 --> 00:40:52,574
to close your eyes

1168
00:40:52,954 --> 00:40:55,019
and and bow your head. You know? I

1169
00:40:55,099 --> 00:40:57,179
mean, there is a reverence in prayer. There's

1170
00:40:57,179 --> 00:40:59,340
a reverence in speaking to God. Don't get

1171
00:40:59,340 --> 00:41:01,260
me wrong in that. But there is not

1172
00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:04,300
a set sinner's prayer. Like like Dennis just

1173
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:06,000
read in Romans chapter 10,

1174
00:41:06,460 --> 00:41:08,594
you know, verse 9, verse 10 there, you

1175
00:41:08,835 --> 00:41:10,775
you are you are confessing

1176
00:41:11,234 --> 00:41:13,635
the Lord Jesus Christ. So I think that's

1177
00:41:13,635 --> 00:41:15,635
probably the hardest part, I guess, of the

1178
00:41:15,635 --> 00:41:17,954
whole thing is making him Lord of your

1179
00:41:17,954 --> 00:41:20,355
life. Right? That's that's where that's where I

1180
00:41:20,355 --> 00:41:22,750
think people miss it sometimes. It's just like,

1181
00:41:22,750 --> 00:41:24,190
lord, I don't wanna die and go to

1182
00:41:24,190 --> 00:41:25,809
hell. Please save me. And,

1183
00:41:26,269 --> 00:41:29,170
you know, okay. If in that you believe,

1184
00:41:29,230 --> 00:41:31,389
if in that you've trusted, if in that

1185
00:41:31,389 --> 00:41:33,250
you've made him lord of your life,

1186
00:41:33,565 --> 00:41:36,125
absolutely nothing wrong with that. But but but

1187
00:41:36,125 --> 00:41:38,364
but making him the Lord of your life

1188
00:41:38,364 --> 00:41:39,985
and dethroning yourself

1189
00:41:40,844 --> 00:41:43,565
is is what has to happen. Right? Because

1190
00:41:43,565 --> 00:41:45,965
that's that who who's king of your life?

1191
00:41:45,965 --> 00:41:48,445
Is it you or is it God? And

1192
00:41:48,445 --> 00:41:50,559
most of the time we'll find out that

1193
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:52,400
we're king of our own castle or we

1194
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,880
wanna be, we wanna make our own decisions.

1195
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,619
We wanna,

1196
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:57,940
we wanna cast our own decrees

1197
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,639
on ourselves and and the way our life

1198
00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:02,744
is gonna be. But that's up to him.

1199
00:42:02,744 --> 00:42:04,505
That's not up to us. And it's giving

1200
00:42:04,505 --> 00:42:06,585
into that and saying, Lord, you're you're Lord,

1201
00:42:06,585 --> 00:42:08,184
not me. Yeah. And that's that's part of

1202
00:42:08,184 --> 00:42:10,264
that whole sanctification thing too. Right? It's where

1203
00:42:10,264 --> 00:42:12,344
you're learning to put that to death. Yes.

1204
00:42:12,344 --> 00:42:13,864
Put the old man to death day by

1205
00:42:13,864 --> 00:42:15,625
day by day, take up your cross daily

1206
00:42:15,625 --> 00:42:18,510
and follow me. That's right. And being transformed

1207
00:42:18,510 --> 00:42:20,110
by the renewing of your mind. And all

1208
00:42:20,110 --> 00:42:21,710
these things that that Paul lays out and

1209
00:42:21,710 --> 00:42:23,309
the Bible lays out that that we have

1210
00:42:23,309 --> 00:42:24,210
to do these things,

1211
00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:27,630
just really out of love, you know? Yeah.

1212
00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:30,030
To to to understand what he's done for

1213
00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:32,335
us. Right. The gravity of it is it's

1214
00:42:32,335 --> 00:42:34,894
it's monstrous. It is. It is. And and

1215
00:42:34,894 --> 00:42:36,815
alcohol comes from that that maybe in a

1216
00:42:36,815 --> 00:42:39,315
manger. Right? Yeah. Amen. Maybe in a manger.

1217
00:42:39,375 --> 00:42:41,614
Amen. He he he wants to give us

1218
00:42:41,775 --> 00:42:43,474
he he doesn't want you to be confused.

1219
00:42:43,695 --> 00:42:46,050
God's not out there going, let's make this

1220
00:42:46,050 --> 00:42:48,390
really hard for him. Let's make him confused

1221
00:42:48,530 --> 00:42:50,769
and let's make him doubt all the time.

1222
00:42:50,769 --> 00:42:52,130
No. He just wants you to have a

1223
00:42:52,130 --> 00:42:55,010
deep relationship with him where you will know

1224
00:42:55,010 --> 00:42:56,849
each and every day. Right? Yeah. And you

1225
00:42:56,849 --> 00:42:58,690
gotta work at it each and every day.

1226
00:42:58,690 --> 00:43:01,110
Yeah. The reason that that most

1227
00:43:01,545 --> 00:43:05,144
that most people who who accept Christ as

1228
00:43:05,144 --> 00:43:06,045
Lord and savior,

1229
00:43:06,505 --> 00:43:08,824
the reason that a lot of them end

1230
00:43:08,824 --> 00:43:09,304
up,

1231
00:43:10,505 --> 00:43:12,605
going back to the way that they lived

1232
00:43:12,744 --> 00:43:14,984
is because they're closer to their old lifestyle

1233
00:43:14,984 --> 00:43:16,744
than they are the new lifestyle. Yeah. You

1234
00:43:16,744 --> 00:43:17,849
know? Oh, this Real, ain't it?

1235
00:43:18,389 --> 00:43:20,730
Yeah. This is all new. This is all

1236
00:43:20,789 --> 00:43:21,670
this is all,

1237
00:43:23,269 --> 00:43:25,369
a lot of learning and a big learning

1238
00:43:25,429 --> 00:43:25,929
curve.

1239
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:29,369
And and so those those folks,

1240
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:31,589
a lot of times and and and it's

1241
00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:34,094
not it's not your fault. It's not all

1242
00:43:34,094 --> 00:43:36,414
your fault. Yeah. A lot of it is

1243
00:43:36,414 --> 00:43:38,255
a church. We've talked about that in here

1244
00:43:38,255 --> 00:43:38,755
before.

1245
00:43:39,055 --> 00:43:41,135
That's where we're supposed to come in and

1246
00:43:41,135 --> 00:43:43,934
disciple you. The moment that you get saved,

1247
00:43:43,934 --> 00:43:46,349
we should take you and we should love

1248
00:43:46,349 --> 00:43:48,289
on you and we should teach you,

1249
00:43:49,150 --> 00:43:51,650
and we should pour god's word over you

1250
00:43:51,869 --> 00:43:54,029
and not throw you into driving the bus

1251
00:43:54,029 --> 00:43:56,670
or teaching the Sunday school class and, you

1252
00:43:56,670 --> 00:43:58,670
know, I I I don't know. I mean,

1253
00:43:58,670 --> 00:44:00,135
but, you know, I I I I know

1254
00:44:00,135 --> 00:44:01,574
I know a lot of our a lot

1255
00:44:01,574 --> 00:44:03,175
of our members have been here for a

1256
00:44:03,175 --> 00:44:04,394
long time. They get,

1257
00:44:04,775 --> 00:44:05,974
they get tore up because they have to

1258
00:44:05,974 --> 00:44:07,175
fill a lot of roles and do a

1259
00:44:07,175 --> 00:44:08,534
lot of things and not be able to

1260
00:44:08,534 --> 00:44:10,394
be in this class or that class. But

1261
00:44:10,775 --> 00:44:12,695
but we do have people in those classes

1262
00:44:12,695 --> 00:44:14,360
that, you know, they need to be in

1263
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,960
there and they need to be learning and

1264
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,320
they need to be growing and we need

1265
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,559
other people in there that can, you know,

1266
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:22,360
can can give insight to in those classes.

1267
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:22,860
So

1268
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,135
those things are so so important.

1269
00:44:26,994 --> 00:44:28,914
None of us have reached any pinnacle that

1270
00:44:28,914 --> 00:44:32,135
we just don't need bible study anymore. But,

1271
00:44:32,594 --> 00:44:34,755
but but there I think there is a

1272
00:44:34,755 --> 00:44:37,574
there's a there's a place where we're, we're

1273
00:44:38,409 --> 00:44:40,329
we're giving them the meal, but we're doing

1274
00:44:40,329 --> 00:44:42,250
that so that they can get sustained on

1275
00:44:42,250 --> 00:44:43,769
some solid stuff and they can get the

1276
00:44:43,769 --> 00:44:45,530
meat one day. Yeah. And and I just

1277
00:44:45,530 --> 00:44:47,289
wanna say as a Sunday school teacher, there's

1278
00:44:47,289 --> 00:44:48,989
there's no book of the Macedonians

1279
00:44:49,369 --> 00:44:50,349
in your bible.

1280
00:44:51,724 --> 00:44:53,644
Just wanna throw that out. Clarify. Yeah. Yeah.

1281
00:44:53,644 --> 00:44:55,025
Make make a little clarification.

1282
00:44:55,565 --> 00:44:57,724
But where did he find that? You know,

1283
00:44:57,724 --> 00:44:59,324
and and Don't forget for that. When you

1284
00:44:59,324 --> 00:45:01,164
mentioned that, one of the things that I've

1285
00:45:01,164 --> 00:45:02,065
always said

1286
00:45:03,324 --> 00:45:03,780
that

1287
00:45:04,420 --> 00:45:05,480
I hope churches

1288
00:45:06,340 --> 00:45:07,780
can reach a point that they can do.

1289
00:45:07,780 --> 00:45:09,140
And I know that not all churches can

1290
00:45:09,140 --> 00:45:10,280
do it. Sometimes you're,

1291
00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:12,420
you know, you you have such a small

1292
00:45:12,420 --> 00:45:13,940
group of people that you're working with. You

1293
00:45:13,940 --> 00:45:16,019
just don't have enough to do everything you

1294
00:45:16,019 --> 00:45:18,925
wanna do. But hopefully as a church, and

1295
00:45:18,925 --> 00:45:20,125
and I say this from Mountain View as

1296
00:45:20,125 --> 00:45:22,144
well, we can you grow to the point

1297
00:45:22,364 --> 00:45:25,264
where you're able to set aside time

1298
00:45:25,565 --> 00:45:26,464
to say, okay,

1299
00:45:26,764 --> 00:45:30,284
we're doing some discipleship training specifically for people

1300
00:45:30,284 --> 00:45:31,019
that are

1301
00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:33,739
you've been saved, you've been digging into this,

1302
00:45:33,739 --> 00:45:35,360
and you're wanting to get involved.

1303
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:37,980
Let you know, let's start working on and

1304
00:45:37,980 --> 00:45:39,820
working towards that and seeing how we can

1305
00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:41,340
help you do that and let's walk through

1306
00:45:41,340 --> 00:45:43,420
the things because one of the things that

1307
00:45:43,420 --> 00:45:44,860
all churches need to do is take the

1308
00:45:44,860 --> 00:45:47,155
time to make sure any new members understand,

1309
00:45:47,215 --> 00:45:49,074
and you've talked about some things to do,

1310
00:45:49,775 --> 00:45:52,414
potentially in the future here. And you wanna

1311
00:45:52,414 --> 00:45:54,434
make sure that you're aligned on your beliefs.

1312
00:45:54,494 --> 00:45:56,574
Yeah. And you wanna make sure because, I

1313
00:45:56,574 --> 00:45:58,414
mean, you you definitely don't want somebody coming

1314
00:45:58,414 --> 00:45:59,795
into Sunday school that

1315
00:46:00,359 --> 00:46:02,199
doesn't align with the things the church is

1316
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:04,199
gonna be teaching. That's right. Because that that

1317
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:06,920
creates confusion. And where there's confusion, Satan's able

1318
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,599
to slip in there and start causing problems.

1319
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:09,960
That's the only reason. Let me make that

1320
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,199
clear to people. It's not that any of

1321
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:14,255
us think we've got it all figured out.

1322
00:46:14,255 --> 00:46:15,855
Oh, no. If you come and ask anybody,

1323
00:46:15,855 --> 00:46:17,614
not Yeah. All of us are aware. There

1324
00:46:17,614 --> 00:46:19,215
are things we don't know. There are things

1325
00:46:19,215 --> 00:46:20,515
that we are 100%

1326
00:46:20,894 --> 00:46:22,195
sure that we're right about,

1327
00:46:22,974 --> 00:46:24,675
but you know what? We might be wrong.

1328
00:46:25,055 --> 00:46:27,135
Yeah. You know, we're we're we're willing to

1329
00:46:27,135 --> 00:46:29,329
admit it. We we are not God,

1330
00:46:29,710 --> 00:46:31,869
but we also don't wanna have any division

1331
00:46:31,869 --> 00:46:33,470
or any kind of cracks in there that

1332
00:46:33,470 --> 00:46:35,390
Satan can slip in. That's all it's about

1333
00:46:35,390 --> 00:46:37,630
is once Satan because once Satan gets his

1334
00:46:37,630 --> 00:46:39,650
foothold in the those kind of things,

1335
00:46:40,269 --> 00:46:42,734
churches get tore apart over it. And and

1336
00:46:42,734 --> 00:46:44,755
without the church, I mean, that that

1337
00:46:45,054 --> 00:46:47,295
you that's we are supposed to be the

1338
00:46:47,295 --> 00:46:48,815
body, the hands and feet of Christ. And

1339
00:46:48,815 --> 00:46:50,574
if the church goes away, the hands and

1340
00:46:50,574 --> 00:46:52,014
feet of Christ are not here serving and

1341
00:46:52,014 --> 00:46:54,190
doing what they're supposed to do. That's why

1342
00:46:54,190 --> 00:46:54,930
we're here.

1343
00:46:55,469 --> 00:46:57,390
And so, you know, I hope that churches

1344
00:46:57,390 --> 00:47:00,269
can can find a way to create some

1345
00:47:00,269 --> 00:47:01,890
of those discipleship opportunities

1346
00:47:02,510 --> 00:47:04,510
as a set aside thing. And then the

1347
00:47:04,510 --> 00:47:06,030
same thing for older members. If you've got

1348
00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:06,849
people serving,

1349
00:47:07,425 --> 00:47:08,945
try to find some time that you can

1350
00:47:08,945 --> 00:47:11,184
set aside and say, hey, everybody that normally

1351
00:47:11,184 --> 00:47:11,684
does,

1352
00:47:12,305 --> 00:47:13,364
you know, the

1353
00:47:13,744 --> 00:47:15,344
the time with the kids or the this

1354
00:47:15,344 --> 00:47:17,425
or the that, food or the just for

1355
00:47:17,425 --> 00:47:19,204
y'all. Y'all come in

1356
00:47:19,505 --> 00:47:21,505
and we're gonna minister to you. Yeah. And

1357
00:47:21,505 --> 00:47:24,340
and everybody else that that that I know

1358
00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:25,940
you bring your kids for them to to

1359
00:47:25,940 --> 00:47:27,219
watch and stuff. They're not going to be

1360
00:47:27,219 --> 00:47:29,139
available to watch the kids. Yeah. They're they're

1361
00:47:29,139 --> 00:47:30,739
not going to be available to to do

1362
00:47:30,739 --> 00:47:32,739
this job or that job. We're going to

1363
00:47:32,739 --> 00:47:35,139
minister to them. Yeah. And take the time

1364
00:47:35,139 --> 00:47:36,820
to do that because they need that.

1365
00:47:37,460 --> 00:47:39,644
Especially your established members of, you know, they

1366
00:47:39,805 --> 00:47:41,724
like you say, they've been around 60, 70

1367
00:47:41,724 --> 00:47:43,164
years and they've been doing it this whole

1368
00:47:43,164 --> 00:47:45,644
time. It's like they need a break. Yeah.

1369
00:47:45,644 --> 00:47:47,325
Exactly. Exactly. And that's what you know, I've

1370
00:47:47,325 --> 00:47:49,485
been talking about that ministry of encouragement for

1371
00:47:49,485 --> 00:47:51,549
a while now and I think that's you

1372
00:47:51,549 --> 00:47:53,150
know, that that's part of it. That's part

1373
00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:55,010
of it is stepping in there and maybe

1374
00:47:55,150 --> 00:47:57,150
look. Maybe you're in a place now where

1375
00:47:57,150 --> 00:47:58,829
you need to start teaching. You need to

1376
00:47:58,829 --> 00:47:59,329
start,

1377
00:47:59,949 --> 00:48:01,549
doing this thing or that thing, you know,

1378
00:48:01,549 --> 00:48:03,549
and you're you haven't you haven't served in

1379
00:48:03,549 --> 00:48:05,730
a place or position like that. So,

1380
00:48:06,510 --> 00:48:06,945
yeah.

1381
00:48:07,425 --> 00:48:09,505
But but, yeah, growing in your faith and

1382
00:48:09,505 --> 00:48:11,105
and a lot of times, it is the

1383
00:48:11,105 --> 00:48:12,405
church's fault because,

1384
00:48:13,425 --> 00:48:15,585
you know, we're so worried about seeing people

1385
00:48:15,585 --> 00:48:17,925
saved and, of course, that's what God wants,

1386
00:48:18,224 --> 00:48:20,465
but he also says and his main goal

1387
00:48:20,465 --> 00:48:22,089
is to make disciples. Now you have to

1388
00:48:22,089 --> 00:48:23,929
be saved before he can make a disciple

1389
00:48:23,929 --> 00:48:26,010
out of you, but but that's what we're

1390
00:48:26,010 --> 00:48:28,170
supposed to do. Yeah. You know, you know,

1391
00:48:28,170 --> 00:48:30,170
we're make disciples. And one of the things

1392
00:48:30,170 --> 00:48:31,550
that always shocks me,

1393
00:48:32,329 --> 00:48:34,170
because I do a lot of of reading

1394
00:48:34,170 --> 00:48:35,769
and learning about all the things that go

1395
00:48:35,769 --> 00:48:36,284
on in churches

1396
00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:42,605
One of the things that was very concerning

1397
00:48:42,605 --> 00:48:43,585
to me was

1398
00:48:44,125 --> 00:48:45,905
about 3 or 4 months ago,

1399
00:48:47,085 --> 00:48:48,625
I was looking through,

1400
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,280
some courses that they had for people doing

1401
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,960
like the sound or doing the music and

1402
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,239
things like that. I'm like, oh, this might

1403
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,519
be something interesting to look into. And I

1404
00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:58,680
get to looking into these courses and watching

1405
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,980
some of the preview videos.

1406
00:49:01,175 --> 00:49:04,054
Man, it scared me because I started listening

1407
00:49:04,054 --> 00:49:05,994
to people that are leaders in their churches

1408
00:49:06,054 --> 00:49:06,954
talking about

1409
00:49:08,534 --> 00:49:10,454
creating this environment where people are going to

1410
00:49:10,454 --> 00:49:12,695
get saved and creating these things where they're

1411
00:49:12,695 --> 00:49:14,775
calling the spirit in and they're creating these

1412
00:49:14,775 --> 00:49:16,780
feelings and they're creating this and they're and

1413
00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:18,460
we wanna do the lighting this way and

1414
00:49:18,460 --> 00:49:21,019
the music this way. And we wanna and

1415
00:49:21,019 --> 00:49:23,019
I mean, it sound I'm sitting there watching

1416
00:49:23,019 --> 00:49:23,920
it and I'm like,

1417
00:49:25,340 --> 00:49:28,140
yeah, I recognize this language because I'm I'm

1418
00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:30,220
a person who spent several years working in

1419
00:49:30,220 --> 00:49:30,800
the theater.

1420
00:49:31,585 --> 00:49:34,465
It's pure theater. It's pure theatrics. And I

1421
00:49:34,465 --> 00:49:36,385
was like, where's the spirit in this? Where's

1422
00:49:36,385 --> 00:49:38,545
the gospel? Yeah. Where's the gospel in this?

1423
00:49:38,545 --> 00:49:40,485
That should be the focus. And they were

1424
00:49:41,105 --> 00:49:44,465
super hardcore focused. I mean, music ministers that

1425
00:49:44,465 --> 00:49:46,980
were hardcore focused on making sure

1426
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,059
they kept the music exactly

1427
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,000
right to create a certain feeling going into

1428
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:52,660
the sermon

1429
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:54,739
and would work with their pastors

1430
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:57,039
to create a feeling there. You wanna know

1431
00:49:57,039 --> 00:49:58,559
why some people come out of stuff like

1432
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:00,164
that and go, I'm not sure if I'm

1433
00:50:00,324 --> 00:50:00,824
saved?

1434
00:50:01,285 --> 00:50:03,704
Yeah. Yeah. At some point, they figure out

1435
00:50:04,804 --> 00:50:07,224
those feelings were all artificial. It's all fluff.

1436
00:50:07,285 --> 00:50:08,085
It's all fluff.

1437
00:50:08,485 --> 00:50:09,605
I don't know if you've seen it or

1438
00:50:09,605 --> 00:50:10,824
not, but there's a,

1439
00:50:11,525 --> 00:50:13,445
there's a couple of churches that done this,

1440
00:50:13,445 --> 00:50:15,670
but I've seen a video the other day,

1441
00:50:16,049 --> 00:50:17,349
of a church out of Texas,

1442
00:50:18,049 --> 00:50:19,889
one of the mega churches that done a

1443
00:50:19,889 --> 00:50:20,389
whole

1444
00:50:20,849 --> 00:50:21,349
theatrical

1445
00:50:21,730 --> 00:50:24,449
deal with Santa Claus and Ailes and I

1446
00:50:24,449 --> 00:50:26,369
mean, they actually had it was a huge

1447
00:50:26,369 --> 00:50:28,094
church. I mean, it was a production that

1448
00:50:28,094 --> 00:50:29,715
you would see on Broadway somewhere.

1449
00:50:30,015 --> 00:50:31,635
They had Santa Claus,

1450
00:50:32,414 --> 00:50:33,315
coming down

1451
00:50:33,614 --> 00:50:35,795
from the I mean, out of the ceiling,

1452
00:50:36,574 --> 00:50:38,355
you know, on a sleigh

1453
00:50:38,655 --> 00:50:41,349
flying down. They had ales flying all over

1454
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:41,929
the place

1455
00:50:42,550 --> 00:50:44,949
and snowmen dancing on the stage and other

1456
00:50:44,949 --> 00:50:46,730
ales dancing on the stage and

1457
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:49,190
I don't know where it went to. I

1458
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:50,869
don't know where it got to. You know?

1459
00:50:50,869 --> 00:50:52,949
You see this clip. I mean, they they

1460
00:50:52,949 --> 00:50:54,010
probably spent

1461
00:50:55,394 --> 00:50:57,715
$200,000 on this production or more. They are

1462
00:50:57,715 --> 00:50:59,414
more. Yeah. They are more,

1463
00:50:59,795 --> 00:51:00,934
and and just like,

1464
00:51:02,434 --> 00:51:04,355
where's the gospel in that? You know? What

1465
00:51:04,355 --> 00:51:06,355
did what are they doing? And again, I

1466
00:51:06,355 --> 00:51:08,050
I didn't see the whole thing. I mean,

1467
00:51:08,050 --> 00:51:09,489
but I've seen enough to think of it.

1468
00:51:09,489 --> 00:51:11,329
There's a lot of wasted money in this.

1469
00:51:11,329 --> 00:51:12,550
Hey. And, you know,

1470
00:51:13,010 --> 00:51:15,089
there's something to be said about, I mean,

1471
00:51:15,089 --> 00:51:17,429
we're not saying have a boring church service

1472
00:51:17,489 --> 00:51:18,929
where you come in and you can't have

1473
00:51:18,929 --> 00:51:21,010
music and you can't have, you know, all

1474
00:51:21,010 --> 00:51:22,394
you can do is just sing the, the,

1475
00:51:22,554 --> 00:51:25,275
the challenge response thing from the, the camp

1476
00:51:25,275 --> 00:51:27,515
meeting days. And it's gotta be, you know,

1477
00:51:27,515 --> 00:51:29,355
you can't get it. We're not saying that,

1478
00:51:29,355 --> 00:51:29,855
but

1479
00:51:30,315 --> 00:51:31,215
when it becomes

1480
00:51:31,675 --> 00:51:33,295
more about the production

1481
00:51:34,235 --> 00:51:37,195
of the service. Yeah. Yeah. As a church,

1482
00:51:37,195 --> 00:51:39,280
you need take a step back. If you're

1483
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,639
the leader of a church, if you're a

1484
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:42,400
pastor of a church and you've got people

1485
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,299
pushing for that,

1486
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,139
evaluate it very very carefully because

1487
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:49,199
and don't get me wrong. I've I've said

1488
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:50,960
it before. Some of that stuff has its

1489
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,175
place. It's nice to

1490
00:51:52,474 --> 00:51:54,394
have nice sliding systems and things like that.

1491
00:51:54,394 --> 00:51:56,074
I'm not saying that all of it's bad.

1492
00:51:56,074 --> 00:51:58,715
Yeah. But if the focus starts going there

1493
00:51:58,795 --> 00:52:00,474
Yeah. You gotta take a step back and

1494
00:52:00,474 --> 00:52:02,094
and I've actually known of pastors

1495
00:52:02,875 --> 00:52:03,695
that will

1496
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,519
be in a church. They're growing. They start

1497
00:52:06,519 --> 00:52:07,960
doing a lot of this stuff just because

1498
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,480
it, you know, it's it's a draw. It

1499
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,719
really is to have those those huge video

1500
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,739
boards and things like that. I mean, people

1501
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,719
people love the video wall and people love

1502
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,159
all that and and they enjoy it and

1503
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:18,855
it and it's kind of nice and it

1504
00:52:19,094 --> 00:52:20,295
and then all of a sudden, one day,

1505
00:52:20,295 --> 00:52:22,215
they look around, they go, hey, we're starting

1506
00:52:22,215 --> 00:52:24,474
to get real focused on all this production

1507
00:52:24,614 --> 00:52:26,135
that we're doing and I I and I

1508
00:52:26,135 --> 00:52:27,734
remember hearing a story years ago of a

1509
00:52:27,734 --> 00:52:30,315
pastor that literally the music minister came up

1510
00:52:30,534 --> 00:52:32,039
and did what I was talking about, planned

1511
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:33,480
out, I'm gonna create this kind of feeling.

1512
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,760
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do that.

1513
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,820
And the preacher went,

1514
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,640
actually how about next Sunday we're just gonna,

1515
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,559
we're gonna turn all that off. We're gonna

1516
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:43,000
have the sound system. We're gonna have the

1517
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,500
piano.

1518
00:52:43,894 --> 00:52:45,734
The the praise man, you know what? They

1519
00:52:45,734 --> 00:52:47,335
need a break. Yeah. And he had him

1520
00:52:47,414 --> 00:52:49,094
he had everybody just take a break from

1521
00:52:49,094 --> 00:52:51,434
all the big theatrics and the production,

1522
00:52:52,214 --> 00:52:53,974
and like 5 people that were leaders in

1523
00:52:53,974 --> 00:52:56,295
the church ended up getting saved. Yeah. Yeah.

1524
00:52:56,295 --> 00:52:58,295
We've done that here. You know, we've done

1525
00:52:58,295 --> 00:53:00,030
that here before. I had I I had

1526
00:53:00,030 --> 00:53:00,690
a Sunday

1527
00:53:00,989 --> 00:53:03,469
that's been years ago where where I cut

1528
00:53:03,469 --> 00:53:05,630
off all the lights and the heat and

1529
00:53:05,630 --> 00:53:07,309
the air, whatever. I don't remember what time

1530
00:53:07,309 --> 00:53:09,090
of year it is, but whatever it was.

1531
00:53:09,230 --> 00:53:10,750
And It was the middle of the summer.

1532
00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:13,514
Right. Yeah. Yeah. And and and we just

1533
00:53:13,514 --> 00:53:15,275
had church, you know, because I I mean,

1534
00:53:15,275 --> 00:53:17,434
sometimes we do get so focused on all

1535
00:53:17,434 --> 00:53:19,835
the amenities and all the nice things around

1536
00:53:19,835 --> 00:53:21,514
us. And, you know, I go I go

1537
00:53:21,514 --> 00:53:23,195
back. One of my one of my favorite

1538
00:53:23,195 --> 00:53:24,795
songs is hard to worship. You know? I

1539
00:53:24,795 --> 00:53:25,295
mean,

1540
00:53:26,074 --> 00:53:27,599
because it it says, says, you know, when

1541
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:30,240
the music fades and all is slip you

1542
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:32,960
know, all these things are gone and and

1543
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,059
and and the lights are out and the

1544
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,440
the the pads the the the pad is

1545
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,840
not on the pews and or what if

1546
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,045
what if, you know, all this this beautiful

1547
00:53:42,045 --> 00:53:43,985
sanctuary that Lord's blessed us with,

1548
00:53:44,445 --> 00:53:46,445
what if it was just a a a

1549
00:53:46,445 --> 00:53:49,005
an underground church somewhere? You know? What if

1550
00:53:49,005 --> 00:53:52,125
it was a a a hidden, church that

1551
00:53:52,125 --> 00:53:54,869
we had to worry about our lives being

1552
00:53:54,869 --> 00:53:57,529
taken because we're over there worshiping, then how

1553
00:53:57,989 --> 00:53:59,909
how authentic would our worship be then? I

1554
00:53:59,909 --> 00:54:01,510
can tell you the people that would be

1555
00:54:01,510 --> 00:54:03,750
in the service would have some authentic worship

1556
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:04,250
because

1557
00:54:04,789 --> 00:54:06,864
if they know what, you know, what could

1558
00:54:06,864 --> 00:54:08,485
happen to them, then, man,

1559
00:54:09,025 --> 00:54:10,785
if they're not into if they're not into

1560
00:54:10,785 --> 00:54:12,805
some authentic worship, they're not gonna be there.

1561
00:54:12,945 --> 00:54:15,105
Yeah. And and I so I love that

1562
00:54:15,105 --> 00:54:16,164
song, though, to,

1563
00:54:16,465 --> 00:54:18,345
you know, just just when everything

1564
00:54:18,785 --> 00:54:19,285
just

1565
00:54:19,664 --> 00:54:22,579
when you just tear tear down all the

1566
00:54:22,579 --> 00:54:25,219
things that that are that are holding you

1567
00:54:25,219 --> 00:54:27,160
back and it's just you and the Lord,

1568
00:54:27,539 --> 00:54:29,059
where are you then? You know, what kind

1569
00:54:29,059 --> 00:54:30,660
of worship would it be? Oh, it's better

1570
00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:31,719
than it. No distractions.

1571
00:54:32,019 --> 00:54:34,244
Yeah. No distractions. Well, people, you know, sweat

1572
00:54:34,244 --> 00:54:36,203
running off somebody's brow might distract them a

1573
00:54:36,203 --> 00:54:38,897
little bit, but Yeah. But Yeah. It's really

1574
00:54:38,897 --> 00:54:40,856
not that much of a distraction. No. We

1575
00:54:40,856 --> 00:54:43,059
take it we take it look at these

1576
00:54:43,304 --> 00:54:45,262
look at churches and like where where Christianity's

1577
00:54:45,262 --> 00:54:47,221
illegal. Mhmm. And China and North Korea and

1578
00:54:47,221 --> 00:54:49,180
places like that, these people are dying for

1579
00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:51,440
the word of God. Yeah. And and that's

1580
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,599
that's that's that's the sad part of this

1581
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:55,760
whole thing of these productions. It does draw

1582
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,940
people by the Absolutely. Absolutely.

1583
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:01,440
Yeah. And and that's why they do it

1584
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,199
is to grow this thing because the growth

1585
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:05,280
becomes a means to to to an end.

1586
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:05,780
Right?

1587
00:55:06,184 --> 00:55:07,945
That's that's what becomes the end. Yeah. It

1588
00:55:07,945 --> 00:55:09,785
is. It's the goal. And and we're not

1589
00:55:09,945 --> 00:55:11,965
have the numbers. And we're not saying,

1590
00:55:12,505 --> 00:55:14,105
you know, we're not we're not the church

1591
00:55:14,105 --> 00:55:15,864
that says don't feed them a hot dog.

1592
00:55:15,864 --> 00:55:17,224
Don't give them nothing. You know what I

1593
00:55:17,224 --> 00:55:18,744
mean? Why should come in here and don't

1594
00:55:18,744 --> 00:55:20,550
play no games? And we do we, you

1595
00:55:20,550 --> 00:55:22,309
know, we got teen kids here. We feed

1596
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:24,570
those kids. We feed those kids a meal

1597
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:26,250
every Wednesday night.

1598
00:55:26,789 --> 00:55:28,950
You know, we have dinners and fellowships here

1599
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:31,210
and and the time that we just fellowship

1600
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:34,015
together. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with those

1601
00:55:34,015 --> 00:55:35,695
things. You know what? I I I I

1602
00:55:35,695 --> 00:55:37,295
think I've mentioned it before. 1 of our

1603
00:55:37,295 --> 00:55:39,934
church members here, and he he he came

1604
00:55:39,934 --> 00:55:42,735
to plays and he would come to functions

1605
00:55:42,735 --> 00:55:44,255
and different things that we had at the

1606
00:55:44,255 --> 00:55:46,015
church, but, you know, coming on a regular

1607
00:55:46,015 --> 00:55:47,489
basis, he didn't do that.

1608
00:55:48,130 --> 00:55:49,829
And I got close to him

1609
00:55:50,210 --> 00:55:53,170
on family game night playing root, you know,

1610
00:55:53,170 --> 00:55:54,469
but that's how we connected.

1611
00:55:54,929 --> 00:55:57,010
And and, you know, he started and I'm

1612
00:55:57,010 --> 00:55:58,449
I'm not saying it was just me, but

1613
00:55:58,449 --> 00:56:00,885
but he got connected with others. And he

1614
00:56:00,965 --> 00:56:02,885
realized, hey, these church folks ain't, you know,

1615
00:56:02,885 --> 00:56:04,565
they're not half that bad. You know? And

1616
00:56:04,565 --> 00:56:06,405
you can have fun here and not be

1617
00:56:06,405 --> 00:56:08,644
out in the world. And and he the

1618
00:56:08,644 --> 00:56:10,244
Lord got ahold of him. He started coming

1619
00:56:10,244 --> 00:56:11,844
to church and Lord got ahold of him

1620
00:56:11,844 --> 00:56:14,159
and and he got saved and, you know,

1621
00:56:14,159 --> 00:56:16,019
his life changed dramatically.

1622
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:16,900
And

1623
00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:18,880
so so, you know, there's nothing wrong with

1624
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,519
me. Jesus fed the 5,000 before he gave

1625
00:56:21,519 --> 00:56:23,440
him a message. Right? He fed him physically

1626
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,139
so he could feed him spiritually.

1627
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,684
But again, there there's there's some, there's gotta

1628
00:56:28,684 --> 00:56:31,085
be some spiritual awareness on on how far

1629
00:56:31,085 --> 00:56:33,965
you go. Right? There's, you know, there's there's

1630
00:56:33,965 --> 00:56:36,864
gotta be okay. Well, maybe maybe a theatrical

1631
00:56:37,085 --> 00:56:39,724
production of of Santa Claus and his ales

1632
00:56:39,724 --> 00:56:41,664
and and Frosty the Snowman

1633
00:56:41,969 --> 00:56:43,809
is a little bit too far, you know.

1634
00:56:43,809 --> 00:56:44,210
Yeah.

1635
00:56:44,929 --> 00:56:46,469
But but man, maybe,

1636
00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:50,609
maybe a great cantata or a Christmas play,

1637
00:56:50,609 --> 00:56:52,369
you know, where it gets real. You know,

1638
00:56:52,369 --> 00:56:55,010
we've had several here where dramas. Yeah. Where

1639
00:56:55,010 --> 00:56:57,535
we've dealt with some real life situations and

1640
00:56:57,535 --> 00:56:58,515
things like that.

1641
00:56:58,894 --> 00:57:01,054
Absolutely nothing wrong with that, man. Let's let's

1642
00:57:01,054 --> 00:57:03,135
keep it about Jesus. You know, I I

1643
00:57:03,135 --> 00:57:05,295
loved I just sat down last night when

1644
00:57:05,295 --> 00:57:07,074
we got back from church. We're sitting around

1645
00:57:07,454 --> 00:57:09,570
and, the best Christmas pageant ever.

1646
00:57:10,289 --> 00:57:12,449
It's a new movie. Dallas Jenkins is Hey.

1647
00:57:12,449 --> 00:57:13,809
Hi. Put it together. I heard you. I

1648
00:57:13,809 --> 00:57:16,530
saw that. If you've not seen it Yeah.

1649
00:57:16,610 --> 00:57:18,769
It's based on the book that's that was

1650
00:57:18,769 --> 00:57:20,690
written back in the sixties. Yeah. I mean,

1651
00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:22,610
this book's been around forever. I remember reading

1652
00:57:22,610 --> 00:57:24,025
it when I was younger, and I sat

1653
00:57:24,025 --> 00:57:25,965
down with the kids and watched it. And

1654
00:57:26,425 --> 00:57:28,505
I mean, it's exactly that. The the lady

1655
00:57:28,505 --> 00:57:30,664
that was in charge, she's just demanding all

1656
00:57:30,664 --> 00:57:33,144
of this perfection, and everything's gotta be exactly

1657
00:57:33,144 --> 00:57:35,625
right. And the kids that are suddenly show

1658
00:57:35,625 --> 00:57:36,824
up, and they're wanting to be in it,

1659
00:57:36,824 --> 00:57:40,030
and they're they are just absolute terrors to

1660
00:57:40,030 --> 00:57:42,190
the town and causing so much trouble and

1661
00:57:42,190 --> 00:57:43,550
then you get to the very end of

1662
00:57:43,550 --> 00:57:45,409
it and all of a sudden,

1663
00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:47,469
the focus isn't on the kids singing. The

1664
00:57:47,469 --> 00:57:49,710
focus isn't on the fact that the little

1665
00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:52,085
girl that that's playing Gabriel doesn't get the

1666
00:57:52,085 --> 00:57:52,984
line right

1667
00:57:53,525 --> 00:57:55,224
and acts a little over the top,

1668
00:57:55,925 --> 00:57:58,085
and you just have Mary Mary and Joseph

1669
00:57:58,085 --> 00:57:59,844
standing there and Mary looking down at Jesus,

1670
00:57:59,844 --> 00:58:02,164
and she realizes, wait, this is about something

1671
00:58:02,164 --> 00:58:04,025
else. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

1672
00:58:05,049 --> 00:58:06,969
at the end of the day, that's what

1673
00:58:06,969 --> 00:58:08,269
we're doing this for.

1674
00:58:08,730 --> 00:58:10,670
That's why we're doing this is because

1675
00:58:10,969 --> 00:58:12,190
we have a savior.

1676
00:58:14,089 --> 00:58:16,489
We have salvation. We have the ability. You

1677
00:58:16,489 --> 00:58:17,710
talk about there's no

1678
00:58:18,089 --> 00:58:21,034
sinner's prayer. There's no saved person's prayer either.

1679
00:58:21,034 --> 00:58:23,114
Yeah. I mean, Christ gives us a formula

1680
00:58:23,114 --> 00:58:24,554
to follow and a and a way to

1681
00:58:24,554 --> 00:58:26,875
pray, but that's not the only thing that

1682
00:58:26,875 --> 00:58:28,635
you have to do because some of the

1683
00:58:28,635 --> 00:58:30,494
best prayers I've had

1684
00:58:31,434 --> 00:58:33,275
were me being at my lowest point and

1685
00:58:33,275 --> 00:58:35,190
just going, well, god, I can't stand it

1686
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:36,550
and I don't know what to do. Jesus

1687
00:58:36,550 --> 00:58:39,110
helped me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes that was

1688
00:58:39,110 --> 00:58:41,030
it. Just having a conversation with you. And

1689
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:43,429
sometimes it's me just Yeah. I remember I

1690
00:58:43,429 --> 00:58:44,170
can remember

1691
00:58:44,469 --> 00:58:46,389
being at at at a point where I

1692
00:58:46,389 --> 00:58:46,875
was just

1693
00:58:47,434 --> 00:58:49,675
had no clue what to do, and I'm

1694
00:58:49,675 --> 00:58:52,255
standing in my house, nobody else around,

1695
00:58:52,635 --> 00:58:54,315
and I'm just going, well, God, this is

1696
00:58:54,315 --> 00:58:55,514
going on and this is going on. And

1697
00:58:55,514 --> 00:58:57,195
I'm not I'm not knee kneeling down. I

1698
00:58:57,195 --> 00:58:58,554
don't have my eyes go I'm just walking

1699
00:58:58,554 --> 00:59:00,474
around. I'm just talking out loud and just

1700
00:59:00,474 --> 00:59:02,639
hollering out, and then it's like God goes,

1701
00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:04,500
Yeah, well, I know.

1702
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:07,139
Are you gonna let me deal with it?

1703
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,699
And I went, Oh, oh. And then

1704
00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:13,519
peace, right? Just peace. Yeah. Yeah. Peace. Yeah.

1705
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:15,279
And it was just like Peace, peace, deal.

1706
00:59:15,279 --> 00:59:17,534
It was the the best, And I do.

1707
00:59:17,534 --> 00:59:19,234
I look back at that. I'm like, wow.

1708
00:59:19,375 --> 00:59:20,514
There, there was no

1709
00:59:21,214 --> 00:59:22,734
ceremony. There was no,

1710
00:59:23,454 --> 00:59:25,394
you know, at the end there was

1711
00:59:25,855 --> 00:59:27,454
because I came to the realization that, wait

1712
00:59:27,454 --> 00:59:28,974
a minute, I'm standing here and I'm trying

1713
00:59:28,974 --> 00:59:30,655
to explain to God how he ought to

1714
00:59:30,655 --> 00:59:31,474
do things.

1715
00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:34,180
Right. Maybe he knows what he's doing. Yeah.

1716
00:59:34,180 --> 00:59:35,619
Yeah. A little bit. A little bit. Yeah.

1717
00:59:35,619 --> 00:59:37,940
And that's the essence of Christianity, right, is

1718
00:59:37,940 --> 00:59:39,780
is is that God died for us to

1719
00:59:39,780 --> 00:59:41,539
have a relationship with us, and you can't

1720
00:59:41,539 --> 00:59:43,059
have a relationship with somebody you don't talk

1721
00:59:43,059 --> 00:59:44,440
to. That's right. Absolutely.

1722
00:59:45,059 --> 00:59:46,664
If you've got kids, you understand that kids

1723
00:59:46,664 --> 00:59:48,265
just come up and talk to you. Yeah.

1724
00:59:48,265 --> 00:59:49,704
Yeah. They don't come up and read something

1725
00:59:49,704 --> 00:59:51,305
to you that's already been prepared. They don't,

1726
00:59:51,305 --> 00:59:52,825
you know, they don't ignore you for 3

1727
00:59:52,825 --> 00:59:55,724
months, or they better not. Yeah. Right? Right.

1728
00:59:55,785 --> 00:59:58,559
It's a relationship, man, and it's no different.

1729
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,579
Yeah. Yeah. Amen. Amen. It's just a personal

1730
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:03,219
relationship

1731
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,599
with the father. Oh, and I'll tell you,

1732
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,160
I'm sorry, Brian. No. You're okay. You mentioned

1733
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:08,719
The Chosen.

1734
01:00:09,199 --> 01:00:11,539
Diane, I watched, Christmas with The Chosen.

1735
01:00:11,945 --> 01:00:13,224
And they took a couple of the movies

1736
01:00:13,224 --> 01:00:15,065
they've made, the nativity stuff, and and kind

1737
01:00:15,065 --> 01:00:16,744
of put merged them together, and it turned

1738
01:00:16,744 --> 01:00:19,144
out really good. It's a really powerful nativity

1739
01:00:19,144 --> 01:00:22,125
story. Copen. Yeah. I'll have to watch that.

1740
01:00:22,184 --> 01:00:24,525
That one was that one was really good.

1741
01:00:24,985 --> 01:00:25,704
Was it the one

1742
01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:27,579
did they do a new one for this

1743
01:00:27,579 --> 01:00:29,179
year? Was it the one for a couple

1744
01:00:29,179 --> 01:00:30,859
years ago? The first one he he ever

1745
01:00:30,859 --> 01:00:32,619
did for his church was something called the

1746
01:00:32,619 --> 01:00:34,219
lamb or something like that where the the

1747
01:00:34,219 --> 01:00:37,179
guy's lamb gets rejected. And and anyway, they

1748
01:00:37,179 --> 01:00:38,954
merged it with another one that has a

1749
01:00:38,954 --> 01:00:40,875
story of Mary and Joseph. Oh Mary's song

1750
01:00:40,875 --> 01:00:42,474
where they actually go through the song. And

1751
01:00:42,474 --> 01:00:43,614
they merged the two together.

1752
01:00:44,315 --> 01:00:46,155
Oh wow. Yeah and he was afraid of

1753
01:00:46,155 --> 01:00:47,914
how it'd turn out. He's afraid it would

1754
01:00:47,914 --> 01:00:49,755
be disjointed and you can tell the difference

1755
01:00:49,755 --> 01:00:51,835
a little bit in the cinematography but yeah

1756
01:00:51,835 --> 01:00:53,869
that's a big word wouldn't it Cinematography.

1757
01:00:54,329 --> 01:00:55,630
Look at that. Cinematography.

1758
01:00:56,250 --> 01:00:56,909
My goodness.

1759
01:00:57,529 --> 01:00:59,710
Now, we'll go again with that word. Yep.

1760
01:01:00,969 --> 01:01:03,609
Well, we thank everybody for joining us tonight.

1761
01:01:03,609 --> 01:01:05,445
So glad that you got to to to

1762
01:01:05,445 --> 01:01:06,425
listen in.

1763
01:01:07,045 --> 01:01:09,625
Next week, next week, Christmas extravaganza.

1764
01:01:10,325 --> 01:01:10,885
I guess,

1765
01:01:11,285 --> 01:01:13,684
big word. Yeah. Yeah. We'll we'll go in.

1766
01:01:13,684 --> 01:01:15,605
We're gonna have some fun. We're gonna gonna

1767
01:01:15,605 --> 01:01:17,545
really focus on Christmas next week.

1768
01:01:17,925 --> 01:01:20,005
And if you're not sure you're saved, work

1769
01:01:20,005 --> 01:01:22,099
it out and work it out. Have the

1770
01:01:22,099 --> 01:01:24,680
conversation with God because that's all prayer is.

1771
01:01:24,739 --> 01:01:27,079
Just talk to him and work it out

1772
01:01:27,380 --> 01:01:27,880
because

1773
01:01:28,180 --> 01:01:30,420
that's all salvation is. It's what you work

1774
01:01:30,420 --> 01:01:33,239
out with your faith between you and God.

1775
01:01:34,034 --> 01:01:35,954
And it's not about what any of anybody

1776
01:01:35,954 --> 01:01:37,574
else tells you that it should be.

1777
01:01:38,194 --> 01:01:39,815
It's about that personal relationship.

1778
01:01:40,194 --> 01:01:42,114
So don't be afraid to go and go

1779
01:01:42,114 --> 01:01:43,635
back as many times as you need to

1780
01:01:43,635 --> 01:01:46,355
until you're sure. Don't be afraid. Amen. And

1781
01:01:46,355 --> 01:01:48,375
if, and if, and if you're going somewhere

1782
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,200
and people are judging you for going back,

1783
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,059
hey, come over here. We won't.

1784
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:53,820
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1785
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:56,220
But brother Brian,

1786
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,380
if you'll pray us out. Sure.

1787
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,079
Lord, we love you. And, God, we're so

1788
01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:02,059
thankful that,

1789
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:03,900
Lord, you know

1790
01:02:04,405 --> 01:02:06,505
you know we're like a bunch of sheep,

1791
01:02:07,684 --> 01:02:10,485
and you know that we get confused sometimes.

1792
01:02:10,485 --> 01:02:11,545
You know that we,

1793
01:02:12,565 --> 01:02:14,885
that we let the the enemy come and

1794
01:02:14,885 --> 01:02:16,345
give us doubts. And,

1795
01:02:17,204 --> 01:02:18,425
Lord, I just pray,

1796
01:02:18,739 --> 01:02:21,139
God, maybe for that one person that's listening

1797
01:02:21,139 --> 01:02:24,019
today that's that needs assurance that you would

1798
01:02:24,019 --> 01:02:24,679
give them

1799
01:02:25,139 --> 01:02:27,539
assurance today of your presence in their life,

1800
01:02:27,539 --> 01:02:29,619
the holy spirit that lives in their heart.

1801
01:02:29,619 --> 01:02:32,099
And then for that person who who maybe

1802
01:02:32,099 --> 01:02:32,599
they've,

1803
01:02:33,335 --> 01:02:34,954
they've had this false assurance,

1804
01:02:35,414 --> 01:02:37,574
God, that you would that you would touch

1805
01:02:37,574 --> 01:02:39,894
them, make them realize where they are, and

1806
01:02:39,894 --> 01:02:41,734
let them not be ashamed to come to

1807
01:02:41,734 --> 01:02:42,234
you

1808
01:02:42,614 --> 01:02:44,855
boldly before the throne of God. And God

1809
01:02:44,855 --> 01:02:46,614
asks you and beg you, Lord God, just

1810
01:02:46,614 --> 01:02:48,389
to be Lord of their life. Lord, I

1811
01:02:48,389 --> 01:02:50,230
know you wanna save them. Lord, I know

1812
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:51,449
you want them to be,

1813
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:53,510
I know that you want them to be

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01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:55,429
part of your kingdom, Lord. And I just

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pray that you give them that assurance today.

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Lord, I thank you for, God for these

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men,

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that I sit here with today for this

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church that allows us to do this. And,

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God, we just, we're just thankful just to

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be able to spread your word one more,

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one more day, one more time.

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And, Lord, if I if I if I

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do not draw another breath tomorrow,

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lord god,

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let me

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let the next breath that I breathe, lord

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god, be in your presence, lord. And we

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just thank you for these things, and we

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ask it in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.

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Special thank you to Carter Pridemore,

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Brian Harris, Waverly Henderson,

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Tatum Harris Spears, and Josie Bartain for our

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theme song, truth set me free. I've been

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Tyler Goza on production and

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audio. We hope you can join us live

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next Monday at 6 PM CST.

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Thank you for listening.

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Black heart for joy, for something real, something

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with power.

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Truth set me free.

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Truth came to me.

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I once