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In chains I was bound,

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I was a madman on the run.

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Through the hills

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Welcome to Tell the Truth, a weekly podcast

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about faith, current events, and life in general,

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brought to you from Mountain View Baptist Church

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live every Monday night at 6PM

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central time.

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And welcome back this week. I think I

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got everybody's headphones working. Y'all can hear me

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now?

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What?

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Oh, man. I tell you, we're out of

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practice. We hadn't hadn't done this in a

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couple of weeks. We've had a lot going

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on, with sickness and then we we did

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have,

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a homegoing,

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a homegoing out of the church and, a

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member that will be has been a member

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longer than I've been alive.

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He's been a he was a deacon here

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longer than I've been alive,

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and, we're we're definitely gonna miss brother Dwayne,

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but

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hallelujah, he is not having any problems breathing

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anymore. No. And he is doing so much

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better and getting to sing praises to Christ

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right to his face. Amen. Yeah. And I'm

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yeah. That was you know, we've talked about

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it ever since last week, but, man, that

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was the best,

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funeral service I've ever attended. It was a

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home going celebration,

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and that was an awesome thing to see.

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It's a sweet beauty land. Amen. That's right.

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Good stuff. Yeah. So brother Dennis, how are

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you doing today? I'm I'm getting there, man.

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Tired tired and Tired wore out. Yeah. Ready

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for the rest of the week. One of

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those days, you know,

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that was we were like we were talking

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earlier, you know, I was on the phone

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to phone with my boss and his boss

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and a European accountant and a North American

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accountant

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coming up with how in the world we

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handle these tariffs.

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they're just talking way over my head, and

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I'm just tuning out at some point. And

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then they'll ask me something, and I'm like,

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what?

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Yeah. Sounds good. Oh, yeah. Let's roll with

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it. Yeah.

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Yeah. I serve it. Oh, I I tend

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to do that myself with accounting. Took an

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accounting class in college, just so I would,

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follow a lot of stuff like that when

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whenever the conversations came up.

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And, I know just enough that I'm not

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completely lost for about the first five minutes.

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And then when they get really deep into

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it, I'm like, yeah. I have no idea

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what's going on. Explain this to me like

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I'm five years old. Would you? Absolutely.

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Oh, man. And, brother Brian, how about you?

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Good, man. Yeah. I'm traveling shoes on today.

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It's been all over the place. So it's

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been a good day.

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Well, I tell you, we're we're gonna have

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a really good conversation now. I believe we're

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talking about,

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the

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issues that people bring up with Christianity. Is

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that Yeah. That the topic for tonight? Yeah.

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I do wanna touch on a

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social couple of social media topics that I

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this past week, and one of them was

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actually from a couple of weeks ago.

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it's got a little bit of, it's not

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quite as heavy as the first one.

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Man, did you guys hear

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about over in Georgia? And this has been

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all over social media. A woman got arrested

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for having a miscarriage

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is the headlines that people were throwing out

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there. Mhmm.

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She was 19.

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and supposedly,

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they arrested her for it. Well, they arrested

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her because of how she dealt with things

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afterwards. She didn't call the proper people and

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have things. It was a dumpster involved, and

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it was not a good situation.

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No no foul play on her part or

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anything. It was just straight up miscarriage.

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you know, there there are charges for that.

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You can't just handle that on your own.

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You have to get the county part of

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body on it. Yeah. Yeah. You have to

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get the county involved. You've got to get

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people involved.

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But a lot of people were, you know,

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flying off the handle and talking about, well,

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if Georgia didn't have these

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anti abortion laws, this wouldn't have been a

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problem and all this kind of crap. And,

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well, first of all, that there there's you

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know, when I first saw that, I was

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like, man, that that sounds insane. So I

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went and looked and sure enough, she she

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was. It was it had happened. Somebody found

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her passed out from the blood loss. Got

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her to the hospital, and then because the

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police went found the corpse, and then they

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were able to track it back to her

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and went, okay.

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We can't just completely ignore it. So they

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did bring the charges. The DA dropped it.

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It. The DA did the right thing. They

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were like, there's no possible way we can

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say this woman was in the right state

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of mind. She just been through a miscarriage,

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and the blood loss alone is enough to

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disqualify actually bringing any charges.

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The problem is and where I almost lost

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my mind,

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she had already been to the hospital.

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She had gone to a hospital.

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and sent her home,

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and they used the Georgia,

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life act

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as their excuse for why they sent her

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home. We can't intervene

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because the baby is still currently alive even

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though you're in the middle of having a

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miscarriage and sent that woman home nineteen weeks

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pregnant.

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Having a miscarriage, sent her home, tried to

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use that as the excuse, and I I

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said very early on, I said, okay. As

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soon as I saw all the details because

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they came out very quick, I said,

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this VA, I really hope, is smart enough

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not to to pursue these charges. Just drop

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it, walk away, and then turn around and

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charge that hospital

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because they put that woman's life at risk

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for political reasons because they don't like this

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rule. Yeah. And I looked it up just

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to double check.

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The Georgia law

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has exceptions

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for,

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removing an unborn child that that is deceased

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from a miscarriage.

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It has exceptions for,

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ectopic pregnancies.

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It has exceptions for any medical emergency,

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C section,

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even though it will result in an unborn,

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you know, a a no not a living

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child at the end, you can do it

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if if there's a medical emergency.

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very end when a pregnancy is deemed medically

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futile.

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What do you call a miscarriage?

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if you were in Georgia,

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raise Cain over this.

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That that hospital needs to be held to

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have their feet have got to be held

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to the fire over this because this is

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just gonna get worse over protest of a

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bill that gives them the exact same power

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they've ever had

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if there is a medical emergency. There is

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there is no

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less authority for it. The the problem these

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days is everybody looks through the lens of

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politics. You know? It's not there's no there's

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no heart. There's no caring. There's no do

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the right thing. It's just Yeah. Because all

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they're saying there is, look. You you wanted

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to pass this abortion law.

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because we can't do anything here, we're not

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gonna do anything here. Yeah.

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And, well, the argument they're using when you

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stop and think about it is like saying,

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well,

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now if I can't amputate your perfectly healthy

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arm, I will go to jail. If I

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take if, you go to the hospital and

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there is nothing wrong with your arm and

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they are fully aware there's nothing wrong with

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your arm and they cut that arm off,

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somebody's going to jail over that. Yeah. They

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are gonna lose their license. You're gonna walk

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away with a multimillion dollar lawsuit and never

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have to worry about working again a day

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in your life.

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And the hospital says, well, since I can't

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do it to a perfectly healthy arm, well,

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you just got in a complete industrial accident,

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and there's really no arm left, but we

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can't do anything. Yeah. It's the same argument.

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It's like these are two very different situations.

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Yeah. And like everything with any kind of

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law and stuff, it it depends. You know,

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it's all situationally specific. So it just blew

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my mind, and I was about had a

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a full blown head explosion

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and was told that because I understand

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that a DNC,

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when used for a miscarriage,

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even though it's the same thing they do

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for an abortion.

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Is acceptable and understood and perfectly allowed

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depending on the circumstance.

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Mhmm. I was told that that makes me

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pro choice.

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Right. And I'm like I'm like, woah. Woah.

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Woah. Don't be misunderstanding me now. I am

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not for this being used with an otherwise

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perfectly healthy pregnancy. That is a terrible thing.

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Yeah. But yeah. So if you see that

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headline, no. No. No. No. It's this is

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a big deal in Georgia. And if you're

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in Georgia, I really do say, hey. You

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know what? Put in a call to somebody

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and say, hey. Why don't we go after

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that hospital and get this dealt with so

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this doesn't keep happening? Because this is about

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the second time that somebody's gotten real close

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to the line and being in trouble over

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there, and it was the same excuse both

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times. So, it's one of those things I

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hope I hope somebody is able to jump

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in and deal with that,

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because this is the exact excuse we've been

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hearing for years. The second story that I

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saw was from a few weeks ago.

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Did you guys hear that a a an

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American citizen

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got swept up in all the deportation stuff

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and got deported?

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Yeah. Yeah. He was he 30 years old.

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He was born in America, had a had

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a birth certificate,

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Social Security card, pays taxes, registered for the

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draft. He's a he's a works been here

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for thirty you know, been alive thirty something

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years and was out on lunch one day,

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got swept up by the federal agents tossed

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in the back of a van, and they

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shipped him off to where his parents were

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from. Oh, why? Well, all that's true except

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for the last part. He didn't actually leave

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the country.

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So this guy, no warrant for him, got

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picked up.

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He was he was I feel bad for

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him, but he's can you imagine you're on

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your lunch break? You go to get you

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a slice of pizza. And before that pizza

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can get in your mouth, you suddenly have

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about five cops grab you from the back

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and slap your hands around behind your pizzas

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on the floor, and they handcuff you and

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yank your wallet out of your pocket. And

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then they throw you in the back of

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a van with a bunch of people, and

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you look around and go, man, these guys

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are all tattooed up, and and they're looking

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kinda rough. And then you get to the

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detention center and you say, what's going on?

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And they said, we're deporting you and you

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say, to where? Yeah.

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Are you sending me back to this town

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I was born in? You're going to Mississippi,

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man. Yeah. I mean, this poor guy. And

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what but now what actually and that's what

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I said. I said people were blowing this

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out of proportion, but what happened is actually

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bad enough that people should be kind of

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upset about it. They did actually hold that

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guy for four hours

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at this detention center until some

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apparently, their Sherlock Holmes of the department came

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in and went, hey, guys. He keeps claiming

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to be an American citizen. We've got his

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wallet right here. Why don't we just run

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his ID?

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Four hours after picking the poor guy up,

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and I'm thinking, somebody didn't think to run

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that right there on the side of the

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road. Look.

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It's government officials. All the things of all

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the things to to That's a casualty of

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war. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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But I mean I mean, you know, that's

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one of those things. I thought that, you

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know, maybe day one at the academy, you

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were taught, hey. Do this thing called investigate.

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Make sure you got the right guy first.

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So I hope that those those off those

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federal agents that were involved in that get

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in at least a little bit of trouble.

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I'm sure he's gonna get a whole bunch

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of our tax money from it.

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Yeah.

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And that's what really upsets me about it

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more than anything. I'm glad he was he

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didn't get in too much trouble and didn't

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actually get kicked out of his home. Yeah.

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But, yeah, if you guys see that one

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floating around, that that guy was not a

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it was a the one who was actually

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a citizen because there's three different stories going

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around with three different the other two were

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here illegally. This guy was an actual citizen,

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but he never left the country. He was

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he was held for about four hours and

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had to go back and have a weird

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conversation with his boss

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off of his lot my he had a

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four hour lunch break. Oh, yeah. Fired.

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I'm I'm

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sure he got back, and they were like,

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you were gone for four hours. What's and

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he's like, look, guys.

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Yes. Yeah. But, yeah, he he wasn't deported,

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but yeah. Hey. You know, if if you're

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a member of law enforcement, slow down. Just

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just take thirty seconds to go. Hey. Look.

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I got an ID here, and it it's

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one of these real IDs that has his

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everything attached to it. Let's go run it

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and make sure it's right. Yeah. Yeah. And,

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but anyway, so that that was just a

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couple of things from social media. So,

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to let everybody know what's really going on

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there, and both of those did. They they

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burned me a little bit. The one in

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Georgia really burned me up that a hospital

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would do that, and that one burned me

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a little bit because it's like, yeah. If

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they're willing to do that, they probably need

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to be reined in before they start going,

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we didn't like what you said. We didn't

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like what you've preached behind the pulpit because

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it that does follow very close to things

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like that if it starts getting ignored a

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lot.

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So definitely, like I've been saying from day

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one, keep an eye out for stuff like

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that and then feel free to write that

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one into your congressman and be like, hey,

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he should have been held for four hours.

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Ten minutes on the side of the road

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would have been enough. You know, train your

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guys better. Yeah. You know, we gave you

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a bunch of money. You you squandered it

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for the last fifty years. Can you please

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spend it on some training?

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Alright. So that brings us up to, this

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week and this week's topic. Yeah. Thing issues

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that people have with Christianity. What now what

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possible issue could anybody have with Christianity? I

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I that makes zero sense to me. It's

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not a controversial

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subject at all, really. Yeah. Is it? No.

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No. I mean, we I mean, we preach

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that you can just do whatever you want

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as long as you're not messing with anybody

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else. You can No. I mean, we we

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don't ask people not to sin. We don't

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tell people they need to avoid sin. I

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I can't imagine people having an issue with

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that. See, I don't wanna be around them

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because they're just a bunch of hypocrites. Yeah.

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Yeah. You know, Christians are just a bunch

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of hypocrites. They they just say one thing

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and do another, and and every one of

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them is the same. Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah.

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That's number one objection. Classic story. Yeah. Yeah.

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Well,

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who's not? Amen. Yeah. Right? And and the

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church church is a place that it's it's

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it's a it's a hospital. Broken. Right? Yeah.

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It's a place where people are trying to

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get closer to God and trying to get

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better. Amen. Amen.

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And we mess up, don't we? We Yeah.

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We,

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we probably give plenty of ammunition for people

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not to wanna be a part of it,

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if you look at just the human aspect

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of it.

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But you gotta go past that, and you

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gotta look at the truth. And I think

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that's the that's the problem today.

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We do. We live in a world where,

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they're handed

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a million different other things that they can

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get involved in or think about or be

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a part of.

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And,

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Christianity just kinda keeps getting lower and lower

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and lower and lower. Right? Because it does

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require something of you. Right. I mean,

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salvation is is through him alone, but it

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requires something of you. And and there's a

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life change involved,

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and,

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you really are born again. And so that's

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it it it it's a big it's a

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big deal for somebody to think.

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Gosh, I got to give up this. I

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got to give up that. I got and

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they think more about what they gotta give

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up and instead of what they gain. Yeah.

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What you're getting. That's the big part of

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it. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I I don't know.

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I I just, and people don't understand what

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Christianity really is when it when they talk

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like that that that is when you're born

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again, you're not

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instantly perfect. That's right. That's right. You you've

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got a sanctification process ahead of you where

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you're becoming holy. Yes. Amen. You're becoming more

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like him, and you had takes a close

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walk with him to do that. That's right.

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And it takes years and years. The rest

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of your life It does. Yeah. Messed up.

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And I'm I'm I admit there's plenty of

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Christians out there that act like fools. Yeah.

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Out in the world and and give us

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give the rest of us a bad name.

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But Sure. But we need to need to

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have a little more understanding of what Christianity

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is and what it's about. Yeah. Now is

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is that one of those situations? And this

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is something I've struggled with a lot over

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the years.

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As Christians, I feel like we really ought

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to hold make sure we're holding each other

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to that higher standard of saying, hey, look.

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You're out here acting the fool. You're out

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here,

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you know, you're married and you're out here

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running around with other women. What are you

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doing? Yeah. I I kinda feel like we

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should be having those conversations

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within the church. Well, that's where that's where

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church discipline is a thing in the past.

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You know? It's,

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I mean, we should be not that we're

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looking for every little wrong thing that somebody's

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doing and trying to say, oh, you're doing

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this or oh, you're doing that. Yeah. But

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there are there are some things that we

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like you said, we should be holding each

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other accountable with, and we should be saying,

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hey. You know, man, that don't that don't

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represent

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that don't represent the church. It don't represent

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Mountain View. It don't represent the church. It

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it certainly doesn't represent Christ well,

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to, to say that you're a part of

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that

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of that family and then do something that's

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opposite of that. Yeah. And and I think

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most Christians aren't aren't taking their walk with

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the Lord seriously enough to where it really

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is changing them. They got their head in

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the world Yeah. And they start to look

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like the world Yeah. And talk like the

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world and act like the world. And and

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it's it it becomes bad for the whole

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church. Yeah. And how do you I mean,

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how

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how

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what is the right way?

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And at what point does the church really

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need to step in and say, hey, look.

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What you're doing has crossed the line

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enough that we've got to have a conversation

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specific rather than necessarily having the Sunday school

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lessons or the messages where you're being very

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general, at what point do you should you

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step in and go, hey. Look.

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This is really getting out of hand. This

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has really gotten too far, and and we

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need to talk. Yeah. And and I understand.

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And

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Christians

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don't don't misunderstand me. We're never attacking somebody

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for this because we're all sinners. We've all

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fallen. We've all made mistakes.

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But we we are coming and standing against

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sin. When we do that, At what point

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do you have to say, I I can't

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stay quiet anymore? Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, it's it's it would be like

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you guys seeing me out doing something

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that

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would completely

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destroy my ministry and would completely destroy Mountain

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View's ministry.

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And he's maybe it's not even a big

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thing, but it but it could blow up

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into a big thing. Right? And and you

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send me out

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whatever whatever scenario you wanna say.

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I think,

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I mean, that's something that I should be

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held accountable to. Right? I mean, that's something

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that that that if if you see me

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out doing something you know is wrong, then

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you come to me and say, brother, you

533
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know, that doesn't represent Christ well. That's not

534
00:18:51,575 --> 00:18:53,720
the way that you that you should act,

535
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,480
or maybe you handled that the wrong way,

536
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,259
or maybe you've done that thing wrong.

537
00:18:58,039 --> 00:19:00,200
It it doesn't matter what place or position

538
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,960
you're in the church. Every single one of

539
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,259
us need to be held accountable

540
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,119
because we are we they they they've got

541
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,579
a a a

542
00:19:09,215 --> 00:19:09,875
a that

543
00:19:10,894 --> 00:19:14,335
they're fine tuning that that, that microscope, and

544
00:19:14,335 --> 00:19:16,494
and they're looking right at us. And they're

545
00:19:16,494 --> 00:19:19,055
they're saying, oh, yeah. There's a flaw. There's

546
00:19:19,055 --> 00:19:21,180
a flaw. There's a flaw. There's a flaw.

547
00:19:21,259 --> 00:19:23,019
And we got plenty of I mean, plenty

548
00:19:23,019 --> 00:19:25,119
of them on a daily basis, you know,

549
00:19:25,660 --> 00:19:26,160
without

550
00:19:26,779 --> 00:19:28,940
without trying to just come up and make

551
00:19:28,940 --> 00:19:31,660
up something. And, and so you got a

552
00:19:31,660 --> 00:19:33,340
whole world of people out there that are

553
00:19:33,340 --> 00:19:34,860
saying, yes. Don't be like you said, I

554
00:19:34,860 --> 00:19:36,694
won't be a part of that because a

555
00:19:36,694 --> 00:19:39,335
bunch of hypocrites in there. Again, who is

556
00:19:39,335 --> 00:19:42,394
it? Right? Yeah. Who doesn't mess up? Yeah.

557
00:19:42,535 --> 00:19:43,355
There's responsibility.

558
00:19:43,894 --> 00:19:46,134
Here's the thing. There's responsibility on both sides

559
00:19:46,134 --> 00:19:47,894
of it. I I do not want to

560
00:19:47,894 --> 00:19:49,734
take the responsibility. We could sit here and

561
00:19:49,734 --> 00:19:52,349
bash all the people who who choose not

562
00:19:52,349 --> 00:19:53,710
to be part of the church and who

563
00:19:53,710 --> 00:19:54,830
choose not to choose,

564
00:19:55,150 --> 00:19:55,789
to be,

565
00:19:56,190 --> 00:19:57,330
part of Christ's family.

566
00:19:58,109 --> 00:19:58,849
And and,

567
00:19:59,150 --> 00:20:00,589
you know, we could we could come up

568
00:20:00,589 --> 00:20:02,589
with plenty of things. It it it's their

569
00:20:02,589 --> 00:20:03,089
responsibility

570
00:20:03,710 --> 00:20:06,190
to to accept and believe and trust in

571
00:20:06,190 --> 00:20:08,565
that. But we also have a responsibility in

572
00:20:08,565 --> 00:20:09,845
it too, and we can't just throw it

573
00:20:09,845 --> 00:20:11,445
away. We've got to

574
00:20:12,164 --> 00:20:13,924
the Bible tells us to live we're supposed

575
00:20:13,924 --> 00:20:15,705
to live beyond reproach. Right?

576
00:20:16,484 --> 00:20:18,644
To to to live beyond reproach is to

577
00:20:18,644 --> 00:20:19,464
think about

578
00:20:20,099 --> 00:20:23,140
our words, our actions, even the little things,

579
00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:24,740
you know, that I I've told my kids

580
00:20:24,740 --> 00:20:27,240
that growing up. You know? Look. I mean,

581
00:20:27,380 --> 00:20:28,980
okay. That may not be that big a

582
00:20:28,980 --> 00:20:29,880
deal. But

583
00:20:30,740 --> 00:20:33,220
if it reflects bad, if it hurts your

584
00:20:33,220 --> 00:20:34,904
ministry, if it hurts your,

585
00:20:35,785 --> 00:20:36,605
your testimony

586
00:20:36,984 --> 00:20:38,605
of who you are in Jesus,

587
00:20:39,305 --> 00:20:41,304
then just don't do it. Yeah. Don't be

588
00:20:41,304 --> 00:20:42,984
a part of it. Yeah. You're carrying a

589
00:20:42,984 --> 00:20:45,465
new name. Yeah. Right. It's not like I'm

590
00:20:45,465 --> 00:20:45,865
I'm just

591
00:20:46,664 --> 00:20:48,759
people, you know, honor they used to honor

592
00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:51,079
their family names Right. A lot more than

593
00:20:51,079 --> 00:20:53,559
they do now. But now we're carrying around

594
00:20:53,559 --> 00:20:56,039
the name of of Jesus. Yeah. And and

595
00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:58,440
that's our identity now. Yeah. And and if

596
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,375
we don't glorify him in that,

597
00:21:00,855 --> 00:21:02,694
that's a judgment seat of Christ coming. Right?

598
00:21:02,694 --> 00:21:04,694
That's right. And we're turning people away from

599
00:21:04,694 --> 00:21:07,095
Christ. Yeah. So the hypocrisy thing, I think,

600
00:21:07,095 --> 00:21:09,414
is is real on one level that that

601
00:21:09,414 --> 00:21:11,255
we don't live out the what the things

602
00:21:11,255 --> 00:21:13,095
that we say we live That's right. A

603
00:21:13,095 --> 00:21:15,174
lot of times. But, like you said, you

604
00:21:15,174 --> 00:21:15,835
know, they

605
00:21:16,410 --> 00:21:17,710
when you're under a microscope

606
00:21:18,090 --> 00:21:20,170
Yeah. It's it's tough. It's tough. It's tough.

607
00:21:20,170 --> 00:21:22,250
And you gotta live like that. And then

608
00:21:22,250 --> 00:21:24,029
and then you have this whole other,

609
00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:26,990
realm of church who's saying, okay.

610
00:21:28,809 --> 00:21:30,029
We know that people,

611
00:21:30,845 --> 00:21:33,404
are are looking at us, and and they

612
00:21:33,404 --> 00:21:34,384
think we're hypocritical.

613
00:21:35,164 --> 00:21:35,664
So

614
00:21:36,365 --> 00:21:38,065
instead of us changing

615
00:21:39,085 --> 00:21:40,144
and being better,

616
00:21:41,325 --> 00:21:42,779
let's just go with the flow.

617
00:21:43,340 --> 00:21:45,099
Change the rules. Let's just change the rules.

618
00:21:45,099 --> 00:21:46,720
Yeah. Yeah. And let's say, hey.

619
00:21:47,099 --> 00:21:50,220
Yeah. I know. It's okay. You know? I

620
00:21:50,220 --> 00:21:51,420
I I know you wanna go out and

621
00:21:51,420 --> 00:21:53,019
get drunk and party and and have a

622
00:21:53,019 --> 00:21:55,420
good time and and have sex before marriage

623
00:21:55,420 --> 00:21:57,554
and all this stuff. We're into that too,

624
00:21:57,554 --> 00:21:59,474
you know, and that's what these churches are

625
00:21:59,474 --> 00:22:01,714
are saying, you know, this is okay. If

626
00:22:01,714 --> 00:22:03,714
you wanna do this, that's fine. If it

627
00:22:03,714 --> 00:22:06,035
doesn't bother you, then it doesn't bother us.

628
00:22:06,035 --> 00:22:07,494
Just come on in to church.

629
00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:10,049
And they do that in the name of

630
00:22:10,049 --> 00:22:12,470
Jesus, and they're they're they're

631
00:22:13,089 --> 00:22:15,730
showing the world to Jesus who isn't Jesus.

632
00:22:15,730 --> 00:22:17,829
Right? They're painting. They're portraying a picture

633
00:22:18,289 --> 00:22:20,369
of of somebody who is not the savior

634
00:22:20,369 --> 00:22:22,585
of the world, who is not holy, who

635
00:22:22,585 --> 00:22:24,684
is not righteous, who is not,

636
00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:27,305
full of grace and love and and truth

637
00:22:27,305 --> 00:22:28,045
and forgiveness.

638
00:22:28,345 --> 00:22:31,225
They're they're showing this this this Jesus who's,

639
00:22:31,225 --> 00:22:32,745
like you said the other day, he'd be

640
00:22:32,745 --> 00:22:34,684
wearing flip flops in the airport somewhere.

641
00:22:35,225 --> 00:22:37,384
That that's what they're looking at. Right? I

642
00:22:37,384 --> 00:22:39,930
mean, that's in in a and we've got

643
00:22:39,930 --> 00:22:42,089
to we've got to show who the real

644
00:22:42,089 --> 00:22:45,049
Jesus is. We've got to direct their their

645
00:22:45,049 --> 00:22:47,690
attention and their eyesight towards who he is.

646
00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:49,630
Yeah. But in doing that,

647
00:22:50,305 --> 00:22:52,224
sometimes we're the only Jesus that they ever

648
00:22:52,224 --> 00:22:54,025
see, so we got to Right. We got

649
00:22:54,025 --> 00:22:56,065
to do what we living in love. Right?

650
00:22:56,065 --> 00:22:57,505
And and I I think that's kind of

651
00:22:57,505 --> 00:22:59,105
the flip side of of, you know, the

652
00:22:59,105 --> 00:23:01,585
Pharisee attitude. Right. The Pharisee is all about

653
00:23:01,585 --> 00:23:03,105
the rules, but the other side of it

654
00:23:03,105 --> 00:23:05,039
is really still all about the rules too.

655
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,920
They're not about this transformation that God's trying

656
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,720
to work inside of us. Yeah. And and

657
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,500
when we're actually genuinely

658
00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:13,600
growing in Christ and genuinely becoming more like

659
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,600
him throughout the course of our life, we're

660
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,615
gonna make mistakes. Yeah. And we're gonna be

661
00:23:17,615 --> 00:23:19,375
called a hypocrite here and there more than

662
00:23:19,375 --> 00:23:22,095
likely. Absolutely. Right? But we're growing. Yeah. Growing.

663
00:23:22,095 --> 00:23:23,775
We're not just keeping rules for the sake

664
00:23:23,775 --> 00:23:26,255
of making me look better. Yeah. Right? It's

665
00:23:26,255 --> 00:23:28,494
it's it's we're making him look better. That's

666
00:23:28,494 --> 00:23:30,335
right. That's right. And I know we've talked

667
00:23:30,335 --> 00:23:32,740
about this before, you know, and Satan seems

668
00:23:32,740 --> 00:23:35,559
to attack some some big names in Christianity.

669
00:23:35,940 --> 00:23:36,440
Yeah.

670
00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:38,900
And it's happened a lot over the years,

671
00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:40,440
you know, people that that,

672
00:23:41,059 --> 00:23:41,539
that,

673
00:23:41,940 --> 00:23:44,180
look to these men of God, you know,

674
00:23:44,180 --> 00:23:46,279
and and then watch them fall.

675
00:23:47,255 --> 00:23:49,494
I mean, I I can remember I can

676
00:23:49,494 --> 00:23:52,075
remember several different ones through the years,

677
00:23:52,774 --> 00:23:55,654
but but some even recently, you know, that,

678
00:23:55,654 --> 00:23:56,394
man, I

679
00:23:56,774 --> 00:23:59,174
I trusted their in their theology and their

680
00:23:59,174 --> 00:24:01,519
teaching and their their sound they were teach

681
00:24:01,679 --> 00:24:03,919
they're preaching sound doctrine. And then all of

682
00:24:03,919 --> 00:24:05,359
a sudden, you know, one of them here

683
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,460
a while back, he just passed away now,

684
00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:09,359
and they found out all this terrible stuff

685
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,679
about him. You know, and it's like, woah.

686
00:24:11,679 --> 00:24:12,740
It just it just

687
00:24:13,095 --> 00:24:14,554
completely destroyed Christianity,

688
00:24:15,335 --> 00:24:17,335
to in a lot of people's minds. Yeah.

689
00:24:17,335 --> 00:24:20,454
Yeah. They're just hypocrites. It's just it adds

690
00:24:20,454 --> 00:24:22,535
to that. Right? Yeah. So so the the

691
00:24:22,535 --> 00:24:24,054
the second thing, I got this off a

692
00:24:24,054 --> 00:24:25,755
website. It's just 10 objections.

693
00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:28,080
The second thing they had was,

694
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,259
what about the atrocities that Christians have committed?

695
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,859
Like religious wars, crusades, burning witches, deposition,

696
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,660
slavery

697
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,259
Yeah. Even the holocaust. Yeah. Is that yeah.

698
00:24:41,365 --> 00:24:43,605
Were those really Christians? Yeah. Yeah. Did they

699
00:24:43,605 --> 00:24:46,744
have it right? No. No. Absolutely no. No.

700
00:24:46,964 --> 00:24:48,565
Absolutely no. Is that the way to go

701
00:24:48,565 --> 00:24:50,744
about it? No. Yeah. And it's a smokescreen.

702
00:24:50,884 --> 00:24:51,544
And, again,

703
00:24:52,244 --> 00:24:54,644
yeah, it's people doing things in the name

704
00:24:54,644 --> 00:24:55,224
of Jesus.

705
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:58,119
But we can't call everything somebody's doing in

706
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,019
the name of Jesus

707
00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:00,059
Christianity

708
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,399
because it's not. Right? It's it's just not.

709
00:25:03,399 --> 00:25:05,000
Right. And and it you know what you

710
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,240
know what tree bites fruit. Yeah. Absolutely. And

711
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,919
and that's something they wrote here too is

712
00:25:08,919 --> 00:25:09,659
that Christianity's

713
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,535
had far more positive achievements than negative.

714
00:25:12,835 --> 00:25:15,174
It's been instrumental in the formation of countless

715
00:25:15,315 --> 00:25:19,315
hospitals, schools, colleges, orphanages, relief agencies, and charity

716
00:25:19,315 --> 00:25:22,134
agencies. No other religion in history can compare.

717
00:25:22,434 --> 00:25:25,759
Yeah. Amen. And that's Yeah. That's good stuff.

718
00:25:25,779 --> 00:25:28,299
Yeah. Yeah. Well, and that one that one

719
00:25:28,299 --> 00:25:30,000
is one that I know I've heard

720
00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:34,059
most of my life. I've heard people say,

721
00:25:34,059 --> 00:25:35,900
well, what about the crusades? What about the

722
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:37,184
inquisition? What about,

723
00:25:37,585 --> 00:25:39,505
you know, the the witch trials up in

724
00:25:39,505 --> 00:25:41,445
Salem? And you look at things like that

725
00:25:41,825 --> 00:25:42,144
and,

726
00:25:43,105 --> 00:25:45,505
people really really wanna focus on, well, that

727
00:25:45,505 --> 00:25:47,985
was Christian led. And if you ever bring

728
00:25:47,985 --> 00:25:49,505
up and say, well, you know, it's hard

729
00:25:49,505 --> 00:25:51,285
to say those people were truly Christians.

730
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:53,829
I don't know if you guys have seen

731
00:25:53,829 --> 00:25:55,750
this, but that's where people will immediately start

732
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:58,730
throwing out the the no true Scotsman fallacy.

733
00:25:59,190 --> 00:26:00,650
Well, anybody that disagrees

734
00:26:01,029 --> 00:26:03,289
with you is not really

735
00:26:03,829 --> 00:26:05,674
the thing that you agree with. And it's

736
00:26:05,674 --> 00:26:07,355
like, well, hang on. That's not what we're

737
00:26:07,355 --> 00:26:08,654
saying. We're saying

738
00:26:09,914 --> 00:26:11,835
and and I bring this up specifically because

739
00:26:11,835 --> 00:26:13,035
it took me a long time to figure

740
00:26:13,035 --> 00:26:14,174
out how to say this.

741
00:26:14,634 --> 00:26:16,654
Exactly what you just said. We're fruit inspecting.

742
00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:19,515
We go back to the word. Right. We

743
00:26:19,515 --> 00:26:20,575
go back to the scripture.

744
00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:24,500
Does the scripture have anything in it that

745
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:25,319
even remotely

746
00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:27,000
supports

747
00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:28,759
these actions? Okay.

748
00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:32,500
For the crusades, I can there is nothing

749
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:34,179
in the scripture that says go out and

750
00:26:34,179 --> 00:26:35,159
make war

751
00:26:35,664 --> 00:26:37,585
in God's name. The only time you find

752
00:26:37,585 --> 00:26:39,184
a a group doing that is in the

753
00:26:39,184 --> 00:26:40,884
old testament where he

754
00:26:41,184 --> 00:26:43,265
explicitly orders the children of Israel to do

755
00:26:43,265 --> 00:26:46,244
it, but only in one very specific area.

756
00:26:46,384 --> 00:26:47,825
Like, he didn't say go to the whole

757
00:26:47,825 --> 00:26:49,585
world and start wiping out everybody. He says

758
00:26:49,585 --> 00:26:50,805
go to this one area

759
00:26:51,369 --> 00:26:53,450
and conquer this land that I've promised to

760
00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:55,390
you. So that was a unique situation.

761
00:26:56,730 --> 00:26:59,049
Okay. The the the witch trials and stuff

762
00:26:59,049 --> 00:27:00,970
like that. Well, yeah. Okay. The Bible does

763
00:27:00,970 --> 00:27:02,730
say suffer not, you know, a witch to

764
00:27:02,730 --> 00:27:03,230
live.

765
00:27:04,275 --> 00:27:04,775
But

766
00:27:05,234 --> 00:27:07,394
then you go to Christ, and we go

767
00:27:07,394 --> 00:27:09,234
to the example he gave for us where,

768
00:27:09,234 --> 00:27:10,674
you know, he was dealing with people like

769
00:27:10,674 --> 00:27:12,355
that all the time, and not once do

770
00:27:12,355 --> 00:27:14,115
we see him stoning anybody to death. In

771
00:27:14,115 --> 00:27:16,215
fact, we see him getting between the people

772
00:27:16,339 --> 00:27:17,940
doing the stoning and the person being stoned.

773
00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:20,019
John wanted to rain fire down from heaven

774
00:27:20,019 --> 00:27:22,259
on the city. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And he

775
00:27:22,259 --> 00:27:24,519
said no. But you hear all these things.

776
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:27,140
People especially people bring up a lot of

777
00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:30,325
old testament stuff that that happened. And not

778
00:27:30,325 --> 00:27:32,724
everything that happened. One of the big things

779
00:27:32,724 --> 00:27:34,105
is, well, you know,

780
00:27:34,404 --> 00:27:36,644
if he's if he's such a good god,

781
00:27:36,644 --> 00:27:38,644
then what about what about all these people

782
00:27:38,644 --> 00:27:41,045
that had multiple wives back then? You know?

783
00:27:41,045 --> 00:27:42,585
God never he never

784
00:27:42,980 --> 00:27:45,700
ordained that. No. He he never he didn't

785
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:46,599
confirm it.

786
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:48,279
He didn't condone it.

787
00:27:48,980 --> 00:27:51,460
That that was never every and every time

788
00:27:51,460 --> 00:27:53,539
that ended up happening, it ended up ending

789
00:27:53,539 --> 00:27:56,180
in disasters. Yeah. It it did. It it

790
00:27:56,180 --> 00:27:58,180
was an issue. It was a problem. I

791
00:27:58,180 --> 00:27:58,634
mean,

792
00:27:59,115 --> 00:28:00,555
when you look at when you look at

793
00:28:00,555 --> 00:28:02,795
Abraham and Sarah and and and what went

794
00:28:02,795 --> 00:28:03,855
on in that situation,

795
00:28:04,555 --> 00:28:06,815
you know, they they got ahead of God,

796
00:28:07,035 --> 00:28:09,434
and they messed up. Right? And and and

797
00:28:09,434 --> 00:28:11,035
they they had to get back in line

798
00:28:11,035 --> 00:28:13,190
with where God wanted them before it before

799
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:14,970
it was right again. And so

800
00:28:15,349 --> 00:28:17,029
a lot of the things that we read

801
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:18,329
about are in there because

802
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:20,309
but I want you to think about this.

803
00:28:20,309 --> 00:28:23,430
When when kings wrote books and or or

804
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:24,069
or kept,

805
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:27,130
logs and history of what they had done,

806
00:28:27,875 --> 00:28:30,355
they would never they would never put bad

807
00:28:30,355 --> 00:28:32,434
things about themselves in there. You know? They

808
00:28:32,595 --> 00:28:34,514
Weird how that works. Yeah. I mean, it

809
00:28:34,514 --> 00:28:37,075
it was always but but when you open

810
00:28:37,075 --> 00:28:38,674
up the bible, it's the good, the bad,

811
00:28:38,674 --> 00:28:40,355
and the Oh, yeah. You're right. I mean,

812
00:28:40,355 --> 00:28:41,490
it's Parts and all.

813
00:28:41,890 --> 00:28:44,289
Everything in there. And part of that is

814
00:28:44,289 --> 00:28:45,190
to say, look.

815
00:28:45,569 --> 00:28:48,150
There there's people right these people right here

816
00:28:48,529 --> 00:28:50,289
were men of God, and they messed up.

817
00:28:50,289 --> 00:28:52,049
Look at David. They messed up. They made

818
00:28:52,289 --> 00:28:54,974
Yeah. Each mistake. Yeah. But God loved them,

819
00:28:54,974 --> 00:28:57,615
and God and God forgave them. And and

820
00:28:57,615 --> 00:28:59,934
and they were they were still righteous in

821
00:28:59,934 --> 00:29:01,075
his eyes because

822
00:29:01,455 --> 00:29:02,974
of the faith and the trust that they

823
00:29:02,974 --> 00:29:04,974
had in him. And it wasn't it's not

824
00:29:05,134 --> 00:29:06,575
that doesn't mean we go out and we

825
00:29:06,575 --> 00:29:08,190
do what we wanna do. But what it

826
00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:09,710
does mean is is when we mess up,

827
00:29:09,710 --> 00:29:11,470
we got a God who forgives us. Yeah.

828
00:29:11,470 --> 00:29:13,230
Yeah. And they you know, it's like the

829
00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:15,230
example of Abraham. He believed God, and it

830
00:29:15,230 --> 00:29:17,230
was credited to him as righteousness. They didn't

831
00:29:17,230 --> 00:29:19,149
have their own righteousness. They had his. That's

832
00:29:19,149 --> 00:29:21,329
it. Just like just like a Christian today.

833
00:29:21,424 --> 00:29:23,025
And we still mess up. We still do

834
00:29:23,025 --> 00:29:24,865
things wrong, but there's always repentance and there's

835
00:29:24,865 --> 00:29:27,025
always grace. Yeah. Well, and and so much

836
00:29:27,025 --> 00:29:29,365
of the bible, again, especially the old testament,

837
00:29:29,744 --> 00:29:31,105
a lot of that is there as a

838
00:29:31,105 --> 00:29:31,605
warning.

839
00:29:32,224 --> 00:29:33,605
A lot of that is is

840
00:29:34,330 --> 00:29:36,890
purpose to us knowing that is Yeah. This

841
00:29:36,890 --> 00:29:38,730
is how these things work out. Yeah. Stay

842
00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:40,170
away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at look

843
00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:42,190
at Solomon, the wisest man that ever lived.

844
00:29:43,609 --> 00:29:45,450
Yeah. The craziest man that ever lived. They're

845
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:45,950
good.

846
00:29:46,490 --> 00:29:48,090
And they dream away from God. Yeah. They

847
00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:50,434
did. Mhmm. They did. Yeah. Alright. Here's here's

848
00:29:50,434 --> 00:29:53,335
another one. Christians Christianity is just a crutch.

849
00:29:53,715 --> 00:29:55,875
I don't need a crutch. Yeah. Yeah. Just

850
00:29:55,875 --> 00:29:57,335
for weak people. Yeah.

851
00:29:57,715 --> 00:30:00,595
Yeah. What is what is alcohol and drugs

852
00:30:00,914 --> 00:30:03,670
Absolutely. And and porn and sex and all

853
00:30:03,670 --> 00:30:04,870
these different things we see in the world

854
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:06,789
around us. You're leaning on something, aren't you?

855
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:08,789
You sure are. Yeah. Every time you're going

856
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:10,950
to you're trying to find something to fill

857
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:13,269
that void, fill that God's hate hole. Yeah.

858
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:15,190
Well and I I remember one time I

859
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:17,615
heard an atheist say it's you you're going

860
00:30:17,615 --> 00:30:19,774
to Christianity because it's a failing of your

861
00:30:19,774 --> 00:30:20,274
character.

862
00:30:21,375 --> 00:30:23,615
Because you you are not able You're exactly

863
00:30:23,615 --> 00:30:25,534
right. Yeah. You're not able to be good

864
00:30:25,534 --> 00:30:26,974
on your own. I'm going, well, yeah. That's

865
00:30:26,974 --> 00:30:29,554
exactly it. That's me. And and their excuse

866
00:30:29,615 --> 00:30:32,019
was, well, I don't need God to tell

867
00:30:32,019 --> 00:30:33,880
me not to go out and murder people.

868
00:30:34,420 --> 00:30:35,480
And I'm like do.

869
00:30:36,339 --> 00:30:36,839
And?

870
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:38,820
And I'm like, what makes you think that

871
00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:40,820
you wouldn't? The difference is you already have

872
00:30:40,820 --> 00:30:42,980
that God. He's already instilled it in you

873
00:30:42,980 --> 00:30:45,255
from the time that he created everything. It's

874
00:30:45,335 --> 00:30:47,494
burned into the very fabric of creation that

875
00:30:47,494 --> 00:30:49,815
certain things are just wrong. Yeah. Yeah. If

876
00:30:49,815 --> 00:30:51,035
you take that away,

877
00:30:52,055 --> 00:30:54,055
just because your belief in him may not

878
00:30:54,055 --> 00:30:54,555
exist,

879
00:30:55,575 --> 00:30:57,255
if you take away the belief, it doesn't

880
00:30:57,255 --> 00:30:59,859
change what he designed. Yeah. But then if

881
00:30:59,859 --> 00:31:01,859
you take away the design, the question is,

882
00:31:01,859 --> 00:31:04,740
would those beliefs exist? And, no. How do

883
00:31:04,740 --> 00:31:06,740
we know that? Because people are already do

884
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:08,179
everything they can to get away from it

885
00:31:08,179 --> 00:31:09,740
here. Well, I need two crutches. I need

886
00:31:09,779 --> 00:31:11,579
Yeah. Give me give me four. I don't

887
00:31:11,579 --> 00:31:12,980
I don't give me all crutches I can.

888
00:31:13,059 --> 00:31:15,505
Man. Give me a walker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

889
00:31:15,644 --> 00:31:18,044
Yeah. Okay. Here's another one. Christianity is just

890
00:31:18,044 --> 00:31:18,704
close minded.

891
00:31:19,964 --> 00:31:22,144
They're close minded. Yeah. Yeah. They they

892
00:31:22,444 --> 00:31:24,684
they think it's just too narrow. Yeah. Yeah.

893
00:31:24,684 --> 00:31:25,964
Absolutely. Yeah. That's,

894
00:31:26,524 --> 00:31:27,964
that's that's one of the big ones that

895
00:31:27,964 --> 00:31:29,724
you hear all the time. You know? They

896
00:31:29,804 --> 00:31:31,460
you need to expand your mind. You need

897
00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:33,059
to think about, well, what if this, and

898
00:31:33,059 --> 00:31:34,580
what if this, and what if this? You

899
00:31:34,580 --> 00:31:35,080
know?

900
00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:38,580
Here here's the here's the thing. I don't

901
00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:39,640
care who you are.

902
00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:41,720
We are a society

903
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:44,840
that that has a hard time making choices,

904
00:31:46,384 --> 00:31:48,704
and especially the right choices. You know? Yeah.

905
00:31:48,704 --> 00:31:50,625
Should I take this job or should I

906
00:31:50,625 --> 00:31:53,184
not? Should I should I go this way?

907
00:31:53,184 --> 00:31:55,664
Well, there's gonna be a, there's gonna be

908
00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:57,505
a wreck over here. So it might take

909
00:31:57,505 --> 00:31:59,105
me a couple hours to get around. Maybe

910
00:31:59,105 --> 00:32:00,304
I'll go over here, but it ends up

911
00:32:00,304 --> 00:32:02,160
taking me the same length. So which way

912
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,039
do I go? You know? Should I wear,

913
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,460
you know, especially you ladies sometimes,

914
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,200
should I wear this or should I wear

915
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,960
this? You know? Should I should I eat

916
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,400
this or should I eat that? There's more

917
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,920
than one thing on the menu. You don't

918
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,900
know what to get.

919
00:32:14,444 --> 00:32:16,284
And so we're we're we're living in this

920
00:32:16,284 --> 00:32:18,525
world that that everybody's trying to make decisions.

921
00:32:18,525 --> 00:32:20,125
Everybody's trying to figure out what's right. And

922
00:32:20,125 --> 00:32:21,085
a lot of times, we have to make

923
00:32:21,085 --> 00:32:22,444
a lot of mistakes before we figure out

924
00:32:22,444 --> 00:32:24,384
what's right. Yeah. I am so thankful

925
00:32:25,244 --> 00:32:27,005
that when it comes to my religion, when

926
00:32:27,005 --> 00:32:29,005
it comes to Christianity, when it comes to

927
00:32:29,005 --> 00:32:31,630
Jesus, that there is one way in that

928
00:32:31,630 --> 00:32:34,450
through him. That's right. I I mean, because

929
00:32:34,509 --> 00:32:35,650
how do you know

930
00:32:36,029 --> 00:32:37,950
if the if you if you say that

931
00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:40,110
there's a there's a million different ways to

932
00:32:40,110 --> 00:32:40,769
get there,

933
00:32:41,309 --> 00:32:42,750
then how do you know that you're hitting

934
00:32:42,750 --> 00:32:44,565
the right one? I mean, it's like playing

935
00:32:44,565 --> 00:32:47,444
Russian roulette. Yeah. You know? And oh my

936
00:32:47,444 --> 00:32:50,005
gosh. So I'm thankful that he gave me

937
00:32:50,005 --> 00:32:51,845
a choice, the one choice, and that was

938
00:32:51,845 --> 00:32:53,765
to choose him. Yeah. Yeah. And and we

939
00:32:53,765 --> 00:32:55,605
go we go directly to God to get

940
00:32:55,605 --> 00:32:58,490
to God. Yeah. Right? Absolutely simple. It's it's

941
00:32:58,490 --> 00:33:01,049
very simple. And we need simple. We need

942
00:33:01,049 --> 00:33:03,309
simple. Yeah. And and and being

943
00:33:04,650 --> 00:33:07,049
what they call closed minded is not necessarily

944
00:33:07,049 --> 00:33:09,609
closed minded. We we question. We I mean,

945
00:33:09,609 --> 00:33:11,210
if if you were doing your job as

946
00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:13,070
a Christian, if you were doing your job,

947
00:33:13,715 --> 00:33:15,154
coming to the faith, if you're doing your

948
00:33:15,154 --> 00:33:17,075
job remaining where you need to be with

949
00:33:17,075 --> 00:33:19,474
God, you should be questioning things constantly. You

950
00:33:19,474 --> 00:33:21,634
should be saying, is this God you know,

951
00:33:21,634 --> 00:33:23,075
I'm doing this thing that I felt like

952
00:33:23,075 --> 00:33:24,515
God led me to do. Okay. Did God

953
00:33:24,515 --> 00:33:26,099
really lead me to do this? Is this

954
00:33:26,099 --> 00:33:27,539
really God's will for my life? You should

955
00:33:27,539 --> 00:33:30,819
be questioning certain things constantly, but that's not

956
00:33:30,819 --> 00:33:33,140
the same as being open minded about the

957
00:33:33,140 --> 00:33:34,819
existence of God, about the truth of God,

958
00:33:34,819 --> 00:33:36,819
about the truth of the scripture. Yeah. You

959
00:33:36,819 --> 00:33:39,485
you should've you need to handle those questions

960
00:33:39,485 --> 00:33:41,325
before you go in and start saying, well,

961
00:33:41,325 --> 00:33:43,105
yeah, I think I'm going to follow this.

962
00:33:43,325 --> 00:33:45,164
You need to be handling those questions. That's

963
00:33:45,164 --> 00:33:45,985
what determines

964
00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:48,625
that. I mean, you come to that realization

965
00:33:48,684 --> 00:33:51,505
before we ever declare ourselves as Christians. Yeah.

966
00:33:51,725 --> 00:33:54,099
And I understand some people get born, you

967
00:33:54,099 --> 00:33:56,339
know, born again when they're, you know, very

968
00:33:56,339 --> 00:33:56,839
young.

969
00:33:57,379 --> 00:33:58,599
And that that's,

970
00:33:59,059 --> 00:34:01,700
somewhat of a unique case because they they

971
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:03,720
profess faith. They add that faith.

972
00:34:04,339 --> 00:34:06,579
But I've I've noticed that even when you

973
00:34:06,579 --> 00:34:09,014
get saved necessarily at, you know, let's say,

974
00:34:09,094 --> 00:34:10,694
eight, nine years old or six or seven

975
00:34:10,694 --> 00:34:12,474
years old, even sometimes that young,

976
00:34:13,255 --> 00:34:16,214
they will have a point where they are

977
00:34:16,214 --> 00:34:17,034
faced with,

978
00:34:17,335 --> 00:34:19,335
do I really believe this or do I

979
00:34:19,335 --> 00:34:21,335
believe something else? And they go through the

980
00:34:21,335 --> 00:34:22,154
same process

981
00:34:22,489 --> 00:34:23,949
that an adult does coming.

982
00:34:24,250 --> 00:34:26,730
You're gonna eventually go through that process, and

983
00:34:26,730 --> 00:34:28,750
Christians are not at all opposed to that.

984
00:34:28,809 --> 00:34:30,409
In fact, we want to do that, and

985
00:34:30,409 --> 00:34:31,690
we wanna talk to you about it. We

986
00:34:31,690 --> 00:34:33,369
wanna have that debate. We just don't wanna

987
00:34:33,369 --> 00:34:35,369
deconstruct. That's right. We just don't wanna take

988
00:34:35,369 --> 00:34:36,764
it right. Yeah. Don't care. We don't even

989
00:34:36,764 --> 00:34:38,605
start tearing things apart to the point that

990
00:34:38,605 --> 00:34:39,505
we say, well,

991
00:34:39,885 --> 00:34:42,605
we have to create our own truth. Yeah.

992
00:34:42,605 --> 00:34:44,684
And and that tears away at the fabric

993
00:34:44,684 --> 00:34:45,424
of what Christianity

994
00:34:46,045 --> 00:34:48,844
is. You know, when I was saved at

995
00:34:48,844 --> 00:34:50,385
seven and and,

996
00:34:51,085 --> 00:34:52,065
I didn't necessarily

997
00:34:53,219 --> 00:34:55,139
fall into something where I said, well, do

998
00:34:55,139 --> 00:34:57,059
I believe this that I've been taught all

999
00:34:57,059 --> 00:34:59,219
my life or do I not? It was

1000
00:34:59,219 --> 00:35:00,820
more about, do I wanna do my own

1001
00:35:00,820 --> 00:35:02,980
thing? Yeah. Do I wanna follow Jesus? You

1002
00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:04,920
know? And and for a while,

1003
00:35:05,735 --> 00:35:07,655
I've done my own thing, you know, and

1004
00:35:07,655 --> 00:35:10,614
he graciously let me. I I wouldn't say

1005
00:35:10,614 --> 00:35:13,015
graciously, I guess, but he let me. And

1006
00:35:13,094 --> 00:35:15,255
keeps us alive, don't he? Yeah. Thank god

1007
00:35:15,255 --> 00:35:16,695
that he kept me alive through the I

1008
00:35:16,695 --> 00:35:18,775
wouldn't describe that as gracious. Yeah. It is.

1009
00:35:18,775 --> 00:35:20,855
That is absolutely great. It is. It is.

1010
00:35:20,855 --> 00:35:22,739
Yeah. Yeah. He just throw me away during

1011
00:35:22,739 --> 00:35:25,160
the middle of that. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

1012
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:28,260
And, and I'm so thankful for that. And

1013
00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:30,179
I'm thankful that I came back to what

1014
00:35:30,179 --> 00:35:32,739
I trusted and believed in at seven years

1015
00:35:32,739 --> 00:35:35,835
old. And and but but, yeah, we we

1016
00:35:35,835 --> 00:35:38,234
do. We've got there's so many choices out

1017
00:35:38,234 --> 00:35:40,074
there. There's so many things people are handing

1018
00:35:40,074 --> 00:35:41,454
us and telling us. And,

1019
00:35:41,994 --> 00:35:43,755
I talk about this guy on TikTok a

1020
00:35:43,755 --> 00:35:44,394
lot that,

1021
00:35:45,914 --> 00:35:46,894
he's a

1022
00:35:47,755 --> 00:35:50,069
a a skeptic pastor, and and a lot

1023
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:51,670
of the things that he says he's trying

1024
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:53,130
to pull these people in,

1025
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:55,509
he's not really going for the people who

1026
00:35:55,509 --> 00:35:57,230
are who are strong in their faith. He's

1027
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:59,109
Right. For the people who have no faith.

1028
00:35:59,109 --> 00:36:00,569
He's going for the people who

1029
00:36:00,869 --> 00:36:03,029
don't know what they are or, you know,

1030
00:36:03,029 --> 00:36:05,534
they're they're living in this he like we

1031
00:36:05,534 --> 00:36:07,454
were talking about before, he is offering them

1032
00:36:07,454 --> 00:36:10,094
something that sounds great. Yeah. You can be

1033
00:36:10,094 --> 00:36:11,534
who you wanna be. You can do what

1034
00:36:11,534 --> 00:36:12,894
you wanna do. You can sin how you

1035
00:36:12,894 --> 00:36:14,894
wanna sin, and you can still you can

1036
00:36:14,894 --> 00:36:16,175
still be a part of this. Yeah. That's

1037
00:36:16,175 --> 00:36:18,175
an end time sign. Yeah. It's tickling those

1038
00:36:18,175 --> 00:36:20,489
ears. It's tickling those ears, man. And and

1039
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:22,309
and then wants to bring in all these

1040
00:36:22,309 --> 00:36:24,230
scholars, you know. Well, you know, if you

1041
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:24,390
don't

1042
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:26,869
if you're not a if you're not a,

1043
00:36:27,110 --> 00:36:28,789
p if you don't have a PhD in

1044
00:36:28,789 --> 00:36:30,550
this, then then you don't even need to

1045
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:32,230
be saying anything because you don't know because

1046
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:34,070
I'm going off this scholar and this scholar

1047
00:36:34,070 --> 00:36:36,195
and this scholar. Mike, you can pick any

1048
00:36:36,195 --> 00:36:38,035
scholar you want to Yeah. Out there, right,

1049
00:36:38,035 --> 00:36:40,275
that that agrees with what you agree with.

1050
00:36:40,275 --> 00:36:42,195
But but, no, let let let's go to

1051
00:36:42,195 --> 00:36:44,914
Jesus. Yeah. And that's that is you know,

1052
00:36:44,914 --> 00:36:46,914
again, I go back to that. Anytime in

1053
00:36:46,914 --> 00:36:49,150
debate, you're you're taught. Never go you know,

1054
00:36:49,150 --> 00:36:50,750
that first thing that we mentioned, never go

1055
00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:52,269
for the or the second thing we mentioned,

1056
00:36:52,269 --> 00:36:54,449
never go for the no true Scotsman fallacy.

1057
00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:55,809
Right? You always

1058
00:36:56,269 --> 00:36:59,570
go directly at, they did x y z,

1059
00:36:59,789 --> 00:37:02,690
and the thing we teach is this.

1060
00:37:02,994 --> 00:37:03,494
So,

1061
00:37:03,954 --> 00:37:05,795
therefore, they do not match the teachings that

1062
00:37:05,795 --> 00:37:07,394
we have. Yeah. And the teachings we have

1063
00:37:07,394 --> 00:37:09,795
are clear. Yeah. And this this but what

1064
00:37:09,795 --> 00:37:11,234
I was gonna say yeah. And the teachings

1065
00:37:11,234 --> 00:37:12,594
are super clear, so let's just look at

1066
00:37:12,594 --> 00:37:13,875
it right here in the scripture. We go

1067
00:37:13,875 --> 00:37:15,795
to that. Mhmm. And the other thing is,

1068
00:37:15,795 --> 00:37:18,239
you know, the appeal to authority. Again, in

1069
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,840
any kind of debate or any kind of

1070
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,000
the, you know, course that you take on

1071
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,920
under a training that has not and by

1072
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,039
the way, this has nothing to do with

1073
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:28,179
Christianity. This is something that's taught by atheists

1074
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,400
a lot of times. Never do an appeal

1075
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,465
to authority. And then what what do we

1076
00:37:32,465 --> 00:37:34,005
find almost all,

1077
00:37:34,785 --> 00:37:36,485
people arguing against Christianity,

1078
00:37:36,945 --> 00:37:38,885
there's these appeals to authority. And,

1079
00:37:39,184 --> 00:37:41,585
unfortunately, we do kinda fall into that particular

1080
00:37:41,585 --> 00:37:43,605
fallacy because we do appeal to an authority,

1081
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,400
but we appeal to the one who made

1082
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,400
the world. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And there's

1083
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,039
no there's no denying. It's it's it's supposed

1084
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,519
to be narrow. You know, Jesus himself said,

1085
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:55,599
wide is the way to destruction and narrow

1086
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:57,644
is the is the way to life. And

1087
00:37:57,644 --> 00:37:59,724
few there are few who find it. Right?

1088
00:37:59,724 --> 00:38:01,164
Yeah. They claim to be the way, the

1089
00:38:01,164 --> 00:38:02,765
truth, the life. No one comes to the

1090
00:38:02,765 --> 00:38:04,945
father but by me. So Amen. Amen.

1091
00:38:05,805 --> 00:38:08,625
Absolutely true. And we listen. We can

1092
00:38:09,059 --> 00:38:12,019
we can cling to the authority of the

1093
00:38:12,019 --> 00:38:13,079
Bible. Right?

1094
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:17,079
It's profitable for reproof, for, for correction. Right?

1095
00:38:17,219 --> 00:38:20,019
I mean, it's it's it's infallible, guys. And

1096
00:38:20,019 --> 00:38:21,860
that's that's what that's what this guy that

1097
00:38:21,860 --> 00:38:23,855
I've been talking about, that's what he tries

1098
00:38:23,855 --> 00:38:26,014
to break down the the infallibility of the

1099
00:38:26,014 --> 00:38:28,014
bible and says, you know, that it's it's

1100
00:38:28,014 --> 00:38:29,534
just a bunch of stuff. You can't, you

1101
00:38:29,534 --> 00:38:31,775
know, you can't believe in that directly. It's

1102
00:38:31,775 --> 00:38:33,214
okay to look at some of the moral

1103
00:38:33,214 --> 00:38:35,054
things in it, and that's good. But but

1104
00:38:35,054 --> 00:38:36,574
you can't believe this, you can't believe that,

1105
00:38:36,574 --> 00:38:36,664
and he's debunk trying to debunk miracles and

1106
00:38:36,664 --> 00:38:36,815
all these things. And going back to to

1107
00:38:36,815 --> 00:38:37,315
to

1108
00:38:38,579 --> 00:38:42,200
miracles and all these things. And going

1109
00:38:42,579 --> 00:38:43,619
back to to to science, which science has

1110
00:38:43,619 --> 00:38:46,099
never proved the Bible wrong. But, and then

1111
00:38:46,099 --> 00:38:47,860
and then going back to, you know, if

1112
00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:49,539
you don't have a PhD and all these

1113
00:38:49,539 --> 00:38:51,219
things and you got to listen to these

1114
00:38:51,219 --> 00:38:53,454
guys because they've studied it for years. But

1115
00:38:53,454 --> 00:38:55,214
but go again, let's go back to the

1116
00:38:55,214 --> 00:38:56,815
word of God and let's trust in what

1117
00:38:56,815 --> 00:38:57,875
the word of God says.

1118
00:38:58,175 --> 00:39:00,974
Acts chapter four, Peter and John were preaching.

1119
00:39:00,974 --> 00:39:03,534
They were they were man, they were just

1120
00:39:03,534 --> 00:39:05,375
fired up and they and and and the

1121
00:39:05,375 --> 00:39:06,514
church was growing

1122
00:39:07,859 --> 00:39:09,780
by the groves. I mean people were being

1123
00:39:09,780 --> 00:39:11,159
saved left and right.

1124
00:39:11,699 --> 00:39:13,539
In verse in in Acts chapter four and

1125
00:39:13,539 --> 00:39:16,099
verse 13, now when they saw the boldness

1126
00:39:16,099 --> 00:39:18,019
of Peter and John and perceived that they

1127
00:39:18,019 --> 00:39:19,079
were unlearned

1128
00:39:19,985 --> 00:39:21,364
and ignorant men,

1129
00:39:21,664 --> 00:39:22,565
they marveled,

1130
00:39:23,025 --> 00:39:25,905
and they took knowledge of them that they

1131
00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:27,045
had been with

1132
00:39:27,425 --> 00:39:30,704
Jesus. Uh-huh. There's where your authority comes from.

1133
00:39:30,704 --> 00:39:33,025
Right? There's where your learning comes from. I'm

1134
00:39:33,025 --> 00:39:35,400
not tell I'm not saying this is please

1135
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,800
don't think I'm saying don't study. Right? Don't

1136
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,159
grow. Don't, don't dig into it. Don't seek

1137
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:43,339
that knowledge. But what I'm telling you is

1138
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,719
that the word of God is enough. Right?

1139
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,400
There there's nothing wrong. If you wanna go

1140
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,760
to college, if you wanna get that degree,

1141
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,515
if you wanna get that PhD, that doctor,

1142
00:39:50,655 --> 00:39:52,575
absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'm not telling

1143
00:39:52,575 --> 00:39:53,695
you that. If you go to the right

1144
00:39:53,695 --> 00:39:56,414
place, some places can send you into the

1145
00:39:56,414 --> 00:39:57,635
word. Yes. Yes.

1146
00:39:58,335 --> 00:40:01,795
But but, man, the word of God is

1147
00:40:02,335 --> 00:40:03,315
our source.

1148
00:40:03,619 --> 00:40:05,539
That's right. And and that's where we go

1149
00:40:05,539 --> 00:40:07,300
to, and that's where we learn from, and

1150
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:09,300
that's that's what we grow out of. Well,

1151
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:10,980
they accuse Jesus of the same thing. Right?

1152
00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:13,539
He's Yeah. What school you've been to? Right.

1153
00:40:13,539 --> 00:40:14,039
Yeah.

1154
00:40:14,420 --> 00:40:16,360
Yeah. God in human flesh. Absolutely.

1155
00:40:17,704 --> 00:40:19,224
Well, and part of part of that was

1156
00:40:19,224 --> 00:40:20,605
because what he was saying

1157
00:40:21,385 --> 00:40:23,164
was such a was so

1158
00:40:23,545 --> 00:40:25,545
different from the way they had been taught

1159
00:40:25,545 --> 00:40:28,264
to interpret it. Yeah. Yeah. But yet Yeah.

1160
00:40:28,344 --> 00:40:29,704
It was the plain at the end of

1161
00:40:29,704 --> 00:40:31,065
the day, it was the plain reading of

1162
00:40:31,065 --> 00:40:32,980
the words. Yeah. As all he was telling

1163
00:40:32,980 --> 00:40:35,220
them, read it plainly. What does it say?

1164
00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:37,800
That's right. And there you go. And spiritualizing

1165
00:40:38,019 --> 00:40:39,940
and adding all these extra things. And, well,

1166
00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:41,539
what about this? And what about this? And

1167
00:40:41,539 --> 00:40:43,220
what about this? Your degree does not give

1168
00:40:43,220 --> 00:40:45,539
you authority. No. It it it is it

1169
00:40:45,539 --> 00:40:47,485
is the Holy Spirit of God that gives

1170
00:40:47,485 --> 00:40:49,085
you authority, and that's what gave Peter and

1171
00:40:49,085 --> 00:40:51,425
John authority. That's what gave Jesus authority,

1172
00:40:51,885 --> 00:40:54,525
because he he was God. Right? I mean

1173
00:40:54,605 --> 00:40:56,525
and and the two guys on the road

1174
00:40:56,525 --> 00:40:58,445
to Emmaus after Jesus had died, and they

1175
00:40:58,445 --> 00:41:00,989
didn't recognize him for until he invited them

1176
00:41:00,989 --> 00:41:02,130
into their house. But,

1177
00:41:02,829 --> 00:41:04,670
but they're going down through there, and he

1178
00:41:04,670 --> 00:41:07,949
starts expounding on scripture. He starts talking about,

1179
00:41:07,949 --> 00:41:10,349
you know, from the very beginning up until

1180
00:41:10,349 --> 00:41:12,429
now, and he's, like, spitting these facts out.

1181
00:41:12,429 --> 00:41:13,329
And they're like,

1182
00:41:13,875 --> 00:41:15,795
wow. Where'd this dude come from? He he

1183
00:41:15,795 --> 00:41:17,795
is he's a genius. He's brilliant. You know?

1184
00:41:17,795 --> 00:41:19,715
He's Jesus. He was there at every single

1185
00:41:19,715 --> 00:41:21,954
one of those things that was going on.

1186
00:41:21,954 --> 00:41:23,795
You know? Well, you know, I I always

1187
00:41:23,795 --> 00:41:26,690
thought it was hilarious that after Christ began

1188
00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:28,769
his ministry, he's in his thirties, and he's

1189
00:41:28,769 --> 00:41:30,049
going around to these places, and they're and

1190
00:41:30,049 --> 00:41:31,809
they're doing that. They're challenging. Well, where did

1191
00:41:31,809 --> 00:41:33,329
you study? Who do who taught you these

1192
00:41:33,329 --> 00:41:34,710
things? And I'm thinking,

1193
00:41:36,449 --> 00:41:38,869
somebody in at least one of these towns

1194
00:41:39,089 --> 00:41:40,630
had to have heard the story

1195
00:41:40,944 --> 00:41:42,944
about this little 11 year old boy one

1196
00:41:42,944 --> 00:41:44,964
day that while his parents were going to

1197
00:41:45,025 --> 00:41:46,164
to the sacrifice

1198
00:41:46,464 --> 00:41:48,704
Yeah. Got got in there with all the

1199
00:41:48,704 --> 00:41:51,105
priests and all the the leaders and was

1200
00:41:51,105 --> 00:41:53,344
answering questions they had because he had better

1201
00:41:53,344 --> 00:41:55,900
understanding that he Somebody somewhere had to have

1202
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:57,280
heard that story on. I wonder.

1203
00:41:57,980 --> 00:41:59,760
Let a lot come on. Yeah.

1204
00:42:00,059 --> 00:42:02,300
Well, here here's the fifth one. Being a

1205
00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:04,239
good person is all that really matters.

1206
00:42:05,019 --> 00:42:06,699
I just think I'm a good old boy,

1207
00:42:06,699 --> 00:42:07,840
bro. Yeah. Yeah.

1208
00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:09,360
That's Doing alright.

1209
00:42:09,675 --> 00:42:11,434
That's a lie of Satan, ain't it? It'll

1210
00:42:11,434 --> 00:42:13,675
drag you to hell too. Absolutely. A lot

1211
00:42:13,675 --> 00:42:15,835
of good people in hell already. That's right.

1212
00:42:15,835 --> 00:42:18,474
Amen. Too bad my righteousness has those filthy

1213
00:42:18,474 --> 00:42:20,074
rags. Yeah. Well, I mean, we use the

1214
00:42:20,074 --> 00:42:22,235
word good in comparison to each other. Yeah.

1215
00:42:22,235 --> 00:42:23,755
Right. We we,

1216
00:42:24,235 --> 00:42:26,289
there was a a some guys that worked

1217
00:42:26,289 --> 00:42:27,569
with me, and and this guy's

1218
00:42:28,289 --> 00:42:30,530
he's been he's been saved, but he was

1219
00:42:30,530 --> 00:42:32,210
giving the guy this guy a hard time.

1220
00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:33,650
This there was a preacher that worked with

1221
00:42:33,650 --> 00:42:34,630
us at the time.

1222
00:42:35,730 --> 00:42:36,230
And,

1223
00:42:36,609 --> 00:42:38,769
sometimes he, he would come across a little

1224
00:42:38,769 --> 00:42:39,429
bit abrasive,

1225
00:42:39,889 --> 00:42:40,994
on things. You know?

1226
00:42:41,474 --> 00:42:43,875
But, but he was talking about something that

1227
00:42:43,875 --> 00:42:46,195
he had done, and he wasn't exactly maybe

1228
00:42:46,195 --> 00:42:47,875
living right at the time and doing what

1229
00:42:47,875 --> 00:42:49,315
he needed to do. And he looked at

1230
00:42:49,315 --> 00:42:51,394
that preacher, and he said he said he

1231
00:42:51,394 --> 00:42:53,075
said, hey. He said, why are you condemning

1232
00:42:53,075 --> 00:42:54,515
me? He said, I'm a good old boy.

1233
00:42:54,515 --> 00:42:56,159
And and that's when the preacher looked at

1234
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,199
me. He said, there's a lot of good

1235
00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,039
old boys in hell. You know? And but

1236
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:00,319
he was right. Yeah. You know what I

1237
00:43:00,319 --> 00:43:02,480
mean? Yeah. And he was right. Because good

1238
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,480
good is is all relative where we're at.

1239
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,000
Right? And I'd I'd like to draw this

1240
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,300
picture on a on a whiteboard.

1241
00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:09,619
It wouldn't show up too well on podcast.

1242
00:43:10,135 --> 00:43:11,974
But but but you We'll get video one

1243
00:43:11,974 --> 00:43:13,655
day. You look at the skyline of New

1244
00:43:13,655 --> 00:43:15,575
York City. Yeah. Right? And all these buildings

1245
00:43:15,575 --> 00:43:17,494
are all these different heights. Some are real

1246
00:43:17,494 --> 00:43:19,974
short. Some are super super tall. Mhmm. And

1247
00:43:19,974 --> 00:43:21,494
it the all of them are different different

1248
00:43:21,494 --> 00:43:23,460
heights. Well, you get from God's point of

1249
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:25,380
view looking down on them. Yeah. What do

1250
00:43:25,380 --> 00:43:27,640
you see? They all look the same. Yeah.

1251
00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:30,099
Right? They're all the same level. None are

1252
00:43:30,099 --> 00:43:32,340
good. Yeah. There's none good. Not one. Oh,

1253
00:43:32,340 --> 00:43:34,739
not one. Tells us. Amen. And none of

1254
00:43:34,739 --> 00:43:35,940
us are good. All of us saying to

1255
00:43:35,940 --> 00:43:37,664
come short of the glory of God. Yeah.

1256
00:43:37,905 --> 00:43:39,204
Yeah. Yeah. So,

1257
00:43:40,625 --> 00:43:41,445
how about this?

1258
00:43:42,545 --> 00:43:44,324
The Bible is filled with errors.

1259
00:43:45,265 --> 00:43:46,864
We talked about that a little bit already.

1260
00:43:46,864 --> 00:43:48,945
Right? Yeah. This is filled with errors. Yeah.

1261
00:43:48,945 --> 00:43:51,204
Well, there's more manuscript evidence. You know,

1262
00:43:51,985 --> 00:43:53,730
Tanner was on here a couple weeks ago

1263
00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:56,550
talking about this. There's so much manuscript evidence.

1264
00:43:56,610 --> 00:43:59,829
Over 5,000 different manuscripts. Yeah. And going back

1265
00:44:00,050 --> 00:44:01,349
more than any other,

1266
00:44:01,730 --> 00:44:05,269
book in in, in history. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1267
00:44:05,815 --> 00:44:07,414
We don't really know for sure that even

1268
00:44:07,414 --> 00:44:10,295
somebody like Julius Caesar existed in comparison to

1269
00:44:10,295 --> 00:44:12,695
what we have on Jesus. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.

1270
00:44:12,695 --> 00:44:14,695
There's more proof of Jesus than there is

1271
00:44:14,695 --> 00:44:16,534
for him. Yeah. Alexander the great or any

1272
00:44:16,534 --> 00:44:19,530
of these great figures from history. Yeah. Yeah.

1273
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:22,250
You know, and that that's an interesting thing.

1274
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:24,949
Every time I hear somebody say it's filled

1275
00:44:24,949 --> 00:44:26,730
with errors, I'm like, well, first of all,

1276
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:28,409
show me an error

1277
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:30,250
that,

1278
00:44:30,664 --> 00:44:32,744
well, show me the errors is where I

1279
00:44:32,744 --> 00:44:34,664
usually start. What errors are in there? And

1280
00:44:34,664 --> 00:44:36,605
they almost always point to

1281
00:44:37,224 --> 00:44:37,724
these

1282
00:44:38,025 --> 00:44:40,264
crazy things. Like, if you look in I

1283
00:44:40,264 --> 00:44:42,505
think it's first chronicles, there's a measurement of

1284
00:44:42,505 --> 00:44:43,839
a cup, and it's one size. And then

1285
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:45,440
you look at second chronicles and it's a

1286
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,960
measurement of a cup and it's a different

1287
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,019
size. And I'm like,

1288
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,239
well, first of all, what does that have

1289
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,500
to do with doctrine? Yeah. And secondly,

1290
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,719
it actually says right there in one of

1291
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,079
them that it's measured on the outside and

1292
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:57,760
the other one says measure on the inside.

1293
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,775
Yeah. Yeah. And talks about, you know, the

1294
00:45:00,775 --> 00:45:03,655
the difference. And every time I have anybody

1295
00:45:03,655 --> 00:45:05,574
point point out these errors, it's always stuff

1296
00:45:05,574 --> 00:45:07,494
like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's

1297
00:45:07,574 --> 00:45:10,614
it's it's nitpicking things, you know, to again,

1298
00:45:10,614 --> 00:45:11,994
so that they can say,

1299
00:45:12,940 --> 00:45:15,199
well, if that's wrong, then

1300
00:45:16,219 --> 00:45:17,500
why is it wrong for me to do

1301
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:19,260
this, this, and this? You know? Well, because

1302
00:45:19,260 --> 00:45:21,099
the Bible says it's not as wrong. Well,

1303
00:45:21,099 --> 00:45:22,619
but how can I believe the Bible? Because

1304
00:45:22,619 --> 00:45:24,960
the Bible was there. And and, again,

1305
00:45:25,594 --> 00:45:27,594
and here's the thing here's the thing. I

1306
00:45:27,594 --> 00:45:29,295
can promise you that

1307
00:45:29,994 --> 00:45:30,875
99%

1308
00:45:30,875 --> 00:45:33,355
of these people who say that, when when

1309
00:45:33,355 --> 00:45:34,795
they look at the when they look at

1310
00:45:34,795 --> 00:45:36,014
the truth of the bible,

1311
00:45:36,474 --> 00:45:38,234
they may disagree with it, but in their

1312
00:45:38,234 --> 00:45:40,400
heart of hearts, they they can't disagree with

1313
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,920
it. It's it's mostly people who have never

1314
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,300
read it. Yeah. Yeah.

1315
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,840
They're usually they're usually just quoting something they

1316
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,619
heard on Uber, TikTok.

1317
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,160
Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Well, how about this

1318
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,300
one? God's mean.

1319
00:45:52,105 --> 00:45:54,425
He don't have any compassion. Yeah. Oh my

1320
00:45:54,425 --> 00:45:56,265
gosh. Look at the Old Testament. He's wiped

1321
00:45:56,265 --> 00:45:58,765
out the entire cities. Yeah. He's mean.

1322
00:45:59,065 --> 00:46:01,065
Wow. Did you read what those cities were

1323
00:46:01,065 --> 00:46:03,545
doing? Yeah. Yeah. What was happening on those

1324
00:46:03,625 --> 00:46:04,605
and and again,

1325
00:46:05,219 --> 00:46:07,059
he's also a righteous judge, isn't he? I

1326
00:46:07,059 --> 00:46:08,900
mean, he is a righteous judge, so you

1327
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:09,400
cannot

1328
00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:10,440
you cannot

1329
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:13,719
have somebody who is a righteous judge and,

1330
00:46:14,420 --> 00:46:16,739
and somebody who's gonna continue to let sin

1331
00:46:16,739 --> 00:46:18,900
and and destruction go on. And shouldn't that

1332
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:21,184
argument scare you? Yeah. Yeah.

1333
00:46:21,485 --> 00:46:22,385
Yeah. Absolutely.

1334
00:46:23,324 --> 00:46:24,844
A little bit. But but here's what they

1335
00:46:24,844 --> 00:46:26,525
do, though. Let's just don't if I don't

1336
00:46:26,525 --> 00:46:28,045
believe in him, then I don't have to

1337
00:46:28,045 --> 00:46:30,684
worry about that. Right. I can hide behind

1338
00:46:30,684 --> 00:46:32,605
this unbelief. Yeah. And then when I get

1339
00:46:32,605 --> 00:46:34,445
there one day, if it is real, I'm

1340
00:46:34,445 --> 00:46:35,885
gonna say, well, I mean, I had all

1341
00:46:35,885 --> 00:46:37,900
these people telling me that it was wrong,

1342
00:46:37,900 --> 00:46:38,619
you know, and that

1343
00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:42,780
yeah. No. I didn't know. Yeah. Didn't know.

1344
00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:43,920
That's that's good.

1345
00:46:45,180 --> 00:46:45,680
Alright.

1346
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:47,840
If god is so good,

1347
00:46:48,219 --> 00:46:49,599
why does evil exist?

1348
00:46:50,255 --> 00:46:50,755
Yeah.

1349
00:46:51,055 --> 00:46:51,555
Yeah.

1350
00:46:53,135 --> 00:46:54,494
That's a tough one, ain't it? It is

1351
00:46:54,494 --> 00:46:56,015
tough. It's tough one. But I like to

1352
00:46:56,015 --> 00:46:57,775
I like to look at this, you know,

1353
00:46:57,775 --> 00:46:58,974
since the fall anyway.

1354
00:46:59,375 --> 00:47:01,215
And and I look at good and evil,

1355
00:47:01,454 --> 00:47:02,760
like this. And then I think,

1356
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,719
apostle John was was real big on painting

1357
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,780
it this way too

1358
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:09,500
that that it's like light and darkness. Yeah.

1359
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:12,039
That that light is something when darkness is

1360
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:14,219
the absence of something. Yeah. Yeah.

1361
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:17,364
Good is something. Right. And the evil is

1362
00:47:17,364 --> 00:47:19,284
the absence of that good. Yeah. And that's

1363
00:47:19,284 --> 00:47:21,284
what makes hell so bad. That's right. It's

1364
00:47:21,284 --> 00:47:23,944
an absence of any good. That's right. Amen.

1365
00:47:24,405 --> 00:47:26,204
And it and it all goes back to

1366
00:47:26,204 --> 00:47:28,804
to your choice. Right? The to to choose

1367
00:47:28,804 --> 00:47:30,724
Christ, to choose what he's done, to believe

1368
00:47:30,724 --> 00:47:33,039
in and trust in in that free gift

1369
00:47:33,039 --> 00:47:34,579
and accept that free gift.

1370
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:36,800
There's gotta be a flip side to it.

1371
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,400
Right? Or there wouldn't be a choice. We'd

1372
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,159
all be even a bunch of robots running

1373
00:47:40,159 --> 00:47:42,000
around out here and say, I love you,

1374
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,019
God. I love you, God. You know?

1375
00:47:44,487 --> 00:47:47,054
That's but but not really having any kind

1376
00:47:47,054 --> 00:47:49,614
of relationship with him. And God created us

1377
00:47:49,614 --> 00:47:52,055
specifically to have a relationship with him Right.

1378
00:47:52,175 --> 00:47:54,815
To to be able to choose him. And

1379
00:47:54,815 --> 00:47:57,054
every creation he's ever had, everything he's ever

1380
00:47:57,054 --> 00:47:57,554
created,

1381
00:47:58,335 --> 00:47:59,554
including the angels,

1382
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,320
had a choice. Right? The angels had a

1383
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,260
choice and human beings have a choice.

1384
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:05,380
So,

1385
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:06,579
so

1386
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,840
we're we're not we're not built mechanically where

1387
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,099
we just all where we just automatically

1388
00:48:12,824 --> 00:48:14,905
love God and follow God. He gives us

1389
00:48:14,905 --> 00:48:16,905
a choice in that. Yeah. And I always

1390
00:48:16,905 --> 00:48:17,644
I always

1391
00:48:18,025 --> 00:48:19,324
go back with that one.

1392
00:48:20,105 --> 00:48:21,945
You know, what you said that darkness is

1393
00:48:21,945 --> 00:48:23,164
the absence of light.

1394
00:48:24,264 --> 00:48:26,505
They are not opposites. Good is not the

1395
00:48:26,505 --> 00:48:29,079
opposite of evil. Right. Evil is a perversion

1396
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:30,599
Yeah. Of that which is good for me.

1397
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:32,440
Absence of good. You know, go back to

1398
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,599
CS Lewis. He wrote an entire book about

1399
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:36,920
this where he discusses that the the thing

1400
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,599
about evil is it's just the perversion of

1401
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:40,280
good. He he talks about it mere Christianity,

1402
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,565
and then when you go on and read

1403
00:48:41,644 --> 00:48:43,244
the problem with pain and some of these

1404
00:48:43,244 --> 00:48:45,565
others, you know, he specifically dove and there's

1405
00:48:45,565 --> 00:48:47,565
been hundreds of people that dive into it.

1406
00:48:47,565 --> 00:48:49,244
And they all come to the same conclusion

1407
00:48:49,244 --> 00:48:51,244
because it's spelled out very plainly in the

1408
00:48:51,244 --> 00:48:52,925
bible when you look at it. Hey. Yeah.

1409
00:48:52,925 --> 00:48:54,844
You're right. Because you just take anything, for

1410
00:48:54,844 --> 00:48:57,210
example. Let me take sex, for example. So,

1411
00:48:58,010 --> 00:48:59,070
sex is good

1412
00:48:59,769 --> 00:49:01,309
inside of marriage. Right?

1413
00:49:01,690 --> 00:49:04,269
So the perversion of that is is not

1414
00:49:04,329 --> 00:49:04,829
not,

1415
00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:08,170
most of the time, the the absence of

1416
00:49:08,170 --> 00:49:10,170
sex, but it it's it's the absence of

1417
00:49:10,170 --> 00:49:11,530
the good in it. Like, so so we

1418
00:49:11,530 --> 00:49:14,232
can we can absence of marriage. Yeah. We

1419
00:49:14,232 --> 00:49:16,310
take marriage out of the picture, and we

1420
00:49:16,310 --> 00:49:18,648
go into we do what we wanna do

1421
00:49:18,648 --> 00:49:20,726
with who we wanna do it. And then

1422
00:49:20,726 --> 00:49:23,064
here we have AIDS and herpes and Yep.

1423
00:49:23,324 --> 00:49:25,402
All these diseases that have come along because

1424
00:49:25,402 --> 00:49:27,480
of it. And he he does these things.

1425
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:29,559
One man, one woman, he wants to protect

1426
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,400
us. He wants to protect you. He's a

1427
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,320
good father. That's what the rules are for.

1428
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,239
That's not fair. Keep it in the bar

1429
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,239
sales. And and we use this evil and

1430
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,480
celebrate this evil, and and and the only

1431
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,840
reason we can is because we have free

1432
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,440
will. Yeah. And the only reason we have

1433
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,304
free will is because it's required for us

1434
00:49:44,304 --> 00:49:46,545
to love god in return. That's right. Then

1435
00:49:46,545 --> 00:49:48,724
there's no love without a free will. Yeah.

1436
00:49:48,864 --> 00:49:50,405
And I I don't know.

1437
00:49:51,344 --> 00:49:53,425
Somebody throwing out that argument just seems like

1438
00:49:53,425 --> 00:49:55,425
they're just, you know, that's another cop out.

1439
00:49:55,505 --> 00:49:58,599
Bet you. Yeah. Yeah. It's another cop out.

1440
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:00,860
How about this one? This wasn't hard too.

1441
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,880
Why is there suffering in the world? And

1442
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,340
this one this one

1443
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,119
is hard. This is hard. Yeah. Why why

1444
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:09,639
does God not put an end to this?

1445
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:11,159
You know, I've got a a mother with

1446
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:11,659
dementia,

1447
00:50:12,315 --> 00:50:14,974
saw my dad die, pancreas pancreatic cancer.

1448
00:50:16,155 --> 00:50:17,114
We have we have,

1449
00:50:17,675 --> 00:50:19,835
children roaming the streets with no homes. We

1450
00:50:19,835 --> 00:50:21,755
have all kinds of stuff going on around

1451
00:50:21,755 --> 00:50:23,114
us, and it's hard to look at that

1452
00:50:23,114 --> 00:50:25,675
stuff and and and answer. Yeah. It really

1453
00:50:25,675 --> 00:50:27,279
is. It really is. And, of course, our

1454
00:50:27,279 --> 00:50:27,779
our,

1455
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:32,480
our answer usually is well, and we live

1456
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,880
in a fallen world. You know? And while

1457
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,380
that

1458
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:37,460
while that seems to be

1459
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:40,880
just the go to, you know, or just

1460
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,339
some crutch that we use,

1461
00:50:43,255 --> 00:50:45,175
then again, it is the big answer to

1462
00:50:45,175 --> 00:50:47,655
you because because it's the only answer. Right?

1463
00:50:47,655 --> 00:50:49,335
And, I mean, we live in a fallen

1464
00:50:49,335 --> 00:50:49,835
world.

1465
00:50:50,855 --> 00:50:53,335
He did give us a choice. And, from

1466
00:50:53,335 --> 00:50:53,994
the beginning,

1467
00:50:54,775 --> 00:50:56,670
Adam and Eve made their own choice,

1468
00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:59,630
and sin was brought into the world, and

1469
00:50:59,630 --> 00:51:02,989
sin affected everything. It not only affected our

1470
00:51:02,989 --> 00:51:03,489
minds

1471
00:51:03,869 --> 00:51:05,949
and our hearts, but it affected our bodies

1472
00:51:05,949 --> 00:51:08,289
too. And, I mean, it affects us as,

1473
00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:10,994
as as creatures. We we do things that

1474
00:51:10,994 --> 00:51:14,275
destroy our bodies and and, and and kill

1475
00:51:14,275 --> 00:51:16,434
us, and we make things that destroy too,

1476
00:51:16,434 --> 00:51:18,214
don't we? Yeah. And so

1477
00:51:18,594 --> 00:51:21,074
it's not how god intended for it to

1478
00:51:21,074 --> 00:51:23,480
be. But now here we are, we've got

1479
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,960
this choice. And, you know, the thing is

1480
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,940
is God will.

1481
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,559
He will set all these rights wrong. Right.

1482
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:32,440
And he will take sin out, and he

1483
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,599
will take death out. All those things were

1484
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:36,699
gonna be gone one day.

1485
00:51:38,105 --> 00:51:38,764
But it's

1486
00:51:39,144 --> 00:51:41,545
it's again, it goes back to a gracious

1487
00:51:41,545 --> 00:51:43,944
and a merciful god. That doesn't seem like

1488
00:51:43,944 --> 00:51:45,484
grace and mercy to you,

1489
00:51:45,784 --> 00:51:46,284
but

1490
00:51:47,065 --> 00:51:50,364
he is he's waiting, and he is patient

1491
00:51:50,949 --> 00:51:53,190
with us because he wants to he wants

1492
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:55,429
many people to come to him. That's it.

1493
00:51:55,429 --> 00:51:57,590
Yeah. And and he uses this evil and

1494
00:51:57,590 --> 00:51:59,670
suffering in the world to show himself. You'd

1495
00:51:59,670 --> 00:52:00,969
mentioned earlier, Tyler,

1496
00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:03,750
CS Lewis book, Problem of Pain. There's a

1497
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:05,894
quote here. It says, god whispers to us

1498
00:52:05,894 --> 00:52:06,795
in our pleasure,

1499
00:52:07,175 --> 00:52:09,494
speaks to us in our conscience, but shouts

1500
00:52:09,494 --> 00:52:11,655
to us in our pain. Absolutely. It is

1501
00:52:11,655 --> 00:52:14,135
his megaphone to rouse a deaf world. Yeah.

1502
00:52:14,135 --> 00:52:16,535
Amen. I talked about it yesterday when we

1503
00:52:16,695 --> 00:52:18,614
I mean, it it's the hardest times of

1504
00:52:18,614 --> 00:52:20,760
your life that that that you can grow

1505
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:21,260
the

1506
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,239
most, you know. It is. And and without

1507
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,840
it, we wouldn't grow at all. No. Well,

1508
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,140
and the thing that's so

1509
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:28,219
hard about that,

1510
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:29,660
we were designed

1511
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,519
to not have suffering. You gotta remember, we

1512
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:35,000
were designed for the for Eden. There everything

1513
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,244
about humanity

1514
00:52:36,784 --> 00:52:38,704
was built from the ground up to be

1515
00:52:38,704 --> 00:52:41,344
in perfection, to be in perfect servitude Yeah.

1516
00:52:41,424 --> 00:52:43,045
And perfect connection with god.

1517
00:52:43,744 --> 00:52:46,244
And the first two humans rejected that. Yeah.

1518
00:52:46,625 --> 00:52:49,424
Yeah. And now that suffering, it's made them

1519
00:52:49,424 --> 00:52:51,690
all that much worse because of that rejection.

1520
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:53,510
Yeah. That that's the thing we we do

1521
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:55,349
know, and the bible tells us because you

1522
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:57,989
can believe the bible Amen. That he is

1523
00:52:57,989 --> 00:52:59,670
gonna put an end to evil. He is

1524
00:52:59,670 --> 00:53:01,510
gonna put an end to suffering. It's coming

1525
00:53:01,510 --> 00:53:04,194
it's coming probably soon. Right? Yeah. So so

1526
00:53:04,194 --> 00:53:06,034
don't think he's neglecting it. No. I mean,

1527
00:53:06,034 --> 00:53:07,714
in Noah's day, he gave him a hundred

1528
00:53:07,714 --> 00:53:09,635
and twenty years. Noah preached for a hundred

1529
00:53:09,635 --> 00:53:10,614
and twenty years.

1530
00:53:10,994 --> 00:53:11,494
Repent.

1531
00:53:11,795 --> 00:53:14,755
Repent. Yeah. Repent. Repent. Come back to God.

1532
00:53:14,755 --> 00:53:17,234
Come to God. Repent. He's gonna flood the

1533
00:53:17,234 --> 00:53:18,135
earth. Repent.

1534
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,039
And so it wasn't like that, what we're

1535
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:22,880
doing now, we're shouting it from the rooftops.

1536
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,719
Right? I mean, we're we're telling people we

1537
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,880
should be. Maybe we're not doing as much

1538
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,039
as we should, but but we're shouting it

1539
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:31,039
from the rooftops. Hey. Jesus is real. The

1540
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:33,355
Bible is real. And and this is what's

1541
00:53:33,355 --> 00:53:35,035
gonna happen, guys, and you need to get

1542
00:53:35,035 --> 00:53:37,114
right with him now before it's ever too

1543
00:53:37,114 --> 00:53:37,614
late.

1544
00:53:38,715 --> 00:53:38,954
But

1545
00:53:39,515 --> 00:53:40,494
Got one more.

1546
00:53:41,035 --> 00:53:43,355
One more. If there's a hell, why would

1547
00:53:43,355 --> 00:53:45,375
a loving God send people there?

1548
00:53:47,699 --> 00:53:50,099
He don't, does he? No. They they make

1549
00:53:50,099 --> 00:53:52,760
a choice. Yeah. They make a choice. Yeah.

1550
00:53:54,739 --> 00:53:56,900
If there's a jail, why would the judge

1551
00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:58,519
send people there? Yeah.

1552
00:53:58,974 --> 00:54:01,054
You know, I mean, people make a choice

1553
00:54:01,054 --> 00:54:03,614
to they commit they commit the crime, you

1554
00:54:03,614 --> 00:54:05,534
know, due to the time. You know? Mhmm.

1555
00:54:05,855 --> 00:54:08,815
And and the the the greatest atrocity and

1556
00:54:08,815 --> 00:54:09,474
the greatest,

1557
00:54:10,255 --> 00:54:13,214
evil and wrong thing and most illegal thing

1558
00:54:13,214 --> 00:54:14,440
in the world that we can do is

1559
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,760
is not to accept Christ as savior Yeah.

1560
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,239
To to to trust in the world and

1561
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,320
believe in the things of the world instead

1562
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:21,980
of him.

1563
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,000
And,

1564
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,640
and god can't be a part of that.

1565
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:26,920
No. He can't be a part of your

1566
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,664
evil. He can't be a part of your

1567
00:54:28,824 --> 00:54:29,644
your sin.

1568
00:54:30,344 --> 00:54:32,425
And so there has to be a price

1569
00:54:32,425 --> 00:54:34,824
that's paid. Right? No matter what we do,

1570
00:54:34,824 --> 00:54:37,085
no matter what kind of I mean,

1571
00:54:37,625 --> 00:54:39,065
you you go run a stop sign in

1572
00:54:39,065 --> 00:54:40,664
front of a cop out here somewhere or

1573
00:54:40,664 --> 00:54:42,819
you pass a cop at, you know, 90

1574
00:54:42,819 --> 00:54:44,579
miles an hour, guess what? You getting a

1575
00:54:44,579 --> 00:54:46,500
ticket. You getting a ticket, man. It's just

1576
00:54:47,300 --> 00:54:48,659
is it wrong for them to give you

1577
00:54:48,659 --> 00:54:50,659
a ticket? No. It's the rules. You know?

1578
00:54:50,659 --> 00:54:52,659
It's law. But it's our free will that

1579
00:54:52,659 --> 00:54:54,500
did it. Right? That's it. We we were

1580
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:56,804
mashing the gas. Yeah. Yeah. It gives us

1581
00:54:56,804 --> 00:54:58,565
the free will to make that decision. And

1582
00:54:58,565 --> 00:55:00,744
if we choose not to decide at all

1583
00:55:01,045 --> 00:55:03,125
That's a choice. That's a choice. It is.

1584
00:55:03,125 --> 00:55:04,885
Right. And, you know, and the thing is,

1585
00:55:04,885 --> 00:55:05,385
unlike

1586
00:55:05,684 --> 00:55:07,204
you know, you mentioned, like, well, why would

1587
00:55:07,204 --> 00:55:09,059
a judge, you know, send somebody to prison?

1588
00:55:09,059 --> 00:55:10,820
Why would the police arrest somebody or write

1589
00:55:10,820 --> 00:55:11,559
them a ticket?

1590
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:14,500
Unlike the judge and the police and even

1591
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:15,239
the juries,

1592
00:55:16,420 --> 00:55:18,579
he can't be fooled. He can't be tricked.

1593
00:55:18,579 --> 00:55:19,800
He it's a perfect

1594
00:55:20,260 --> 00:55:22,905
judgment. Oh, yeah. So the the penalty, it

1595
00:55:23,065 --> 00:55:25,385
seems harsh. It seems like, well, yeah. But

1596
00:55:25,385 --> 00:55:27,065
that you know, hell is so much worse

1597
00:55:27,065 --> 00:55:28,744
than going to jail or getting a ticket

1598
00:55:28,744 --> 00:55:30,184
or any of these things. Even losing your

1599
00:55:30,184 --> 00:55:31,565
life, it's so much worse.

1600
00:55:32,585 --> 00:55:35,224
But you're talking about being judged by a

1601
00:55:35,224 --> 00:55:35,724
perfect

1602
00:55:36,184 --> 00:55:36,684
judge.

1603
00:55:36,985 --> 00:55:38,125
Someone who sees

1604
00:55:38,539 --> 00:55:40,780
every single thing you do. And beyond that,

1605
00:55:40,780 --> 00:55:42,380
that's what you know, one of the things

1606
00:55:42,380 --> 00:55:43,519
I think people forget,

1607
00:55:43,980 --> 00:55:46,320
not only does God see what we do,

1608
00:55:46,619 --> 00:55:48,380
he knows what we were thinking while we

1609
00:55:48,380 --> 00:55:50,300
did it. He knows what we were feeling

1610
00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:52,394
while we went through with it. He knows

1611
00:55:52,635 --> 00:55:54,715
what anyone who got hurt by us was

1612
00:55:54,715 --> 00:55:56,875
thinking and feeling when we hurt them. He

1613
00:55:56,875 --> 00:55:57,695
knows what

1614
00:55:58,074 --> 00:56:00,074
that led to further down the line. He

1615
00:56:00,074 --> 00:56:00,574
knows

1616
00:56:01,034 --> 00:56:03,614
all of it Yeah. From our singular decision,

1617
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:06,239
and then he knows it about every single

1618
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,840
decision we make. And when you when you

1619
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,280
stop and think about it that way, it's

1620
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:09,780
like,

1621
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:13,380
well, why would the penalty be anything but

1622
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,739
something as bad as hell? Because those those

1623
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,119
decisions to wallow and sin and let it

1624
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:19,619
thrive,

1625
00:56:20,445 --> 00:56:22,204
these are these are not you're like, well,

1626
00:56:22,204 --> 00:56:23,905
I'm only hurting myself. No.

1627
00:56:24,445 --> 00:56:27,825
No. It grows its vessels. It it's exactly.

1628
00:56:27,885 --> 00:56:29,724
It's like watching if you've ever watched them

1629
00:56:29,805 --> 00:56:31,485
have you ever watched the the things on,

1630
00:56:31,485 --> 00:56:33,085
like, the History Channel and stuff or the

1631
00:56:33,085 --> 00:56:34,844
Science Channel when they're doing, like, the wave

1632
00:56:34,844 --> 00:56:36,409
experiments with tidal waves

1633
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:39,030
and stuff. It's this really small thing that

1634
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:41,589
starts it, and it just gets bigger and

1635
00:56:41,589 --> 00:56:43,849
bigger and bigger, and God sees

1636
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:46,869
all of that. Yeah. And so when that

1637
00:56:46,869 --> 00:56:48,089
judgment is passed,

1638
00:56:48,605 --> 00:56:51,405
it it is absolute, it is certain, and

1639
00:56:51,405 --> 00:56:52,304
it is perfect.

1640
00:56:52,924 --> 00:56:55,204
Yeah. The judges here, they make mistakes. Some

1641
00:56:55,324 --> 00:56:57,164
sometimes people get sent to jail, and they

1642
00:56:57,164 --> 00:56:58,684
shouldn't have been. And we have to later

1643
00:56:58,684 --> 00:57:00,684
go back and pardon them and and usually

1644
00:57:00,684 --> 00:57:02,605
give them some some kind of compensation for

1645
00:57:02,605 --> 00:57:04,500
it and things like that. It does happen.

1646
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:06,960
Sometimes police officers arrest somebody they shouldn't arrest.

1647
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,519
Yeah. And when they there's consequences for that.

1648
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:11,519
But there's no innocent people in hell. No.

1649
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:13,680
Exactly. There's never been an innocent person person

1650
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,795
in hell. There never will be. In fact,

1651
00:57:15,954 --> 00:57:18,034
there's not an innocent person in heaven, but

1652
00:57:18,034 --> 00:57:19,094
the difference is

1653
00:57:19,554 --> 00:57:22,114
the difference in the two is this guy

1654
00:57:22,114 --> 00:57:24,914
said, hey. I'm gonna stand before Jesus. I'm

1655
00:57:24,914 --> 00:57:27,335
gonna stand before God in my own merit.

1656
00:57:27,474 --> 00:57:29,394
I'm gonna Yeah. I'm gonna say I've been

1657
00:57:29,394 --> 00:57:31,750
good enough. I've done good enough, and he's

1658
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:33,190
not gonna be able to find a mistake

1659
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:35,450
in me. And then in in a second,

1660
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:36,410
I'm

1661
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:38,730
he's gonna find it. Right? Because, I mean,

1662
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:40,950
there's no one there's no one that hasn't

1663
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:42,869
broken one of the 10 commandments. We can

1664
00:57:42,869 --> 00:57:44,625
start there. Right? We can go back to

1665
00:57:44,784 --> 00:57:47,184
Ray Comfort thing and and and Yeah. And

1666
00:57:47,184 --> 00:57:48,545
we can lay it out there for them,

1667
00:57:48,545 --> 00:57:50,385
and they can see real quick that they're

1668
00:57:50,385 --> 00:57:52,485
that they're lost. But the difference is

1669
00:57:53,025 --> 00:57:53,525
is

1670
00:57:53,824 --> 00:57:56,144
now we have been clothed. Those who've accepted

1671
00:57:56,144 --> 00:57:58,465
Christ, we've been clothed in Christ's righteousness. He's

1672
00:57:58,465 --> 00:58:00,800
paid the price for us that we could

1673
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,640
not pay, and all we had to do

1674
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,800
was accept that. Yes. Yes. And and it's

1675
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,480
it's a decision that we make in the

1676
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,000
here and now while you're alive on this

1677
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,159
world. Yeah. And and if you decide you

1678
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:12,284
don't want anything to do with that, that

1679
00:58:12,284 --> 00:58:14,525
God will honor that for eternity. Absolutely. You

1680
00:58:14,525 --> 00:58:16,525
you're gonna remove yourself from the presence of

1681
00:58:16,525 --> 00:58:18,525
God and that's the presence of all good,

1682
00:58:18,525 --> 00:58:20,444
of all joy, of all peace, of all

1683
00:58:20,444 --> 00:58:20,944
love.

1684
00:58:21,244 --> 00:58:23,644
All that stuff is gone for eternity. And

1685
00:58:23,644 --> 00:58:25,269
Jesus put it this way. There's two kinds

1686
00:58:25,269 --> 00:58:26,869
of people in the world in John three

1687
00:58:26,869 --> 00:58:28,869
eighteen. He said, he who believes in him

1688
00:58:28,869 --> 00:58:31,110
is not judged. He who does not believe

1689
00:58:31,110 --> 00:58:33,269
has been judged already because he has not

1690
00:58:33,269 --> 00:58:34,950
believed in the name of the only begotten

1691
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:36,390
son of god. That's right. That's right. There

1692
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:37,769
goes your don't judge thing.

1693
00:58:38,285 --> 00:58:39,905
Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean,

1694
00:58:40,525 --> 00:58:42,525
so so we've got this choice and we

1695
00:58:42,525 --> 00:58:44,525
make our choice. Right? It's I mean, we

1696
00:58:44,525 --> 00:58:46,525
choose him or we choose we choose a

1697
00:58:46,525 --> 00:58:48,925
life without him. And like you said, why

1698
00:58:48,925 --> 00:58:49,425
would

1699
00:58:49,805 --> 00:58:52,139
why would he give us heaven? Why would

1700
00:58:52,139 --> 00:58:53,199
he give us,

1701
00:58:53,819 --> 00:58:56,139
eternity in his presence when we don't didn't

1702
00:58:56,139 --> 00:58:57,739
wanna have anything to do with him here?

1703
00:58:57,739 --> 00:58:59,819
Yeah. He's like, you didn't want me here,

1704
00:58:59,819 --> 00:59:01,819
so you're not gonna have me here. Right.

1705
00:59:01,819 --> 00:59:03,339
And the angels had to make a choice.

1706
00:59:03,339 --> 00:59:04,859
Right? Yeah. Yeah. Now we gotta make a

1707
00:59:04,859 --> 00:59:07,644
choice. That's right. And and that's love. Yeah.

1708
00:59:07,644 --> 00:59:09,644
It is. It is. We either choose to

1709
00:59:09,644 --> 00:59:11,644
love him or not. That's right. Amen. And

1710
00:59:11,644 --> 00:59:13,484
it's the ultimate expression of love. And thank

1711
00:59:13,484 --> 00:59:15,025
God he gives it to us. That's agape.

1712
00:59:15,244 --> 00:59:16,784
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1713
00:59:17,724 --> 00:59:18,224
Yeah.

1714
00:59:18,605 --> 00:59:21,440
That oh, man. Yeah. I I I love

1715
00:59:21,659 --> 00:59:22,559
diving into

1716
00:59:23,340 --> 00:59:26,219
the complaints and the the objections that people

1717
00:59:26,219 --> 00:59:26,719
have

1718
00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:28,960
to the word of god

1719
00:59:29,420 --> 00:59:29,920
because

1720
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:32,000
they all boil down to,

1721
00:59:32,534 --> 00:59:34,694
I can't have my way. Yeah. At the

1722
00:59:34,694 --> 00:59:36,054
end of the day, that's what it boils

1723
00:59:36,054 --> 00:59:38,214
down to. And it's like, our answer as

1724
00:59:38,214 --> 00:59:39,994
Christians, that should be, yes.

1725
00:59:40,375 --> 00:59:43,335
Yeah. Autonomy. Right? I'm I'm the master of

1726
00:59:43,335 --> 00:59:45,655
my kingdom. I I tell people when I

1727
00:59:45,655 --> 00:59:47,914
invite somebody to church here, I say, hey.

1728
00:59:48,110 --> 00:59:49,630
Come y'all come to church with us. Come

1729
00:59:49,630 --> 00:59:50,989
to Mountain View. We'll treat you so many

1730
00:59:50,989 --> 00:59:52,690
ways you gotta like one of them. Right?

1731
00:59:54,909 --> 00:59:56,590
About 10 of them, but one of them

1732
00:59:56,590 --> 00:59:57,949
you're gonna like. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna do

1733
00:59:57,949 --> 01:00:00,190
something. Right? Latch on. We but we, you

1734
01:00:00,190 --> 01:00:02,421
know, we do. We're we're not perfect,

1735
01:00:02,848 --> 01:00:03,275
and,

1736
01:00:04,394 --> 01:00:06,554
and we mess up. You know? And we've

1737
01:00:06,554 --> 01:00:08,875
got we've you can have one person that

1738
01:00:08,875 --> 01:00:09,614
can make,

1739
01:00:10,154 --> 01:00:12,315
the whole church look bad. You know? And

1740
01:00:12,315 --> 01:00:13,914
and, yeah, there's a lot of there's a

1741
01:00:13,914 --> 01:00:14,654
lot of phariseitical

1742
01:00:14,954 --> 01:00:17,309
stuff out there that that the church comes

1743
01:00:17,309 --> 01:00:19,550
up with and, you know, don't do this

1744
01:00:19,550 --> 01:00:21,550
and don't do that that that grandpa and

1745
01:00:21,550 --> 01:00:23,630
grandma come up with that didn't didn't make

1746
01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:25,550
a hill of beans really in eternity. Get

1747
01:00:25,550 --> 01:00:26,989
that hat off. Yeah. Get that hat off.

1748
01:00:26,989 --> 01:00:28,450
Don't bring that cup in here.

1749
01:00:28,829 --> 01:00:29,570
Hey, boy.

1750
01:00:30,349 --> 01:00:32,835
Gonna lose your salvation over that. Hey. Leave

1751
01:00:32,835 --> 01:00:34,135
your spit bottle outside.

1752
01:00:35,074 --> 01:00:37,315
Just just look. Come in come in here

1753
01:00:37,315 --> 01:00:39,074
and let him clean you up. Why are

1754
01:00:39,074 --> 01:00:41,335
you not wearing slacks? It's Sunday morning.

1755
01:00:43,474 --> 01:00:45,474
Oh my goodness. So we we can we

1756
01:00:45,474 --> 01:00:47,570
can get things out of hand, guys. But,

1757
01:00:48,110 --> 01:00:50,510
man, I I I I'm thankful that I

1758
01:00:50,510 --> 01:00:52,670
serve a god who looks past my flaws

1759
01:00:52,670 --> 01:00:55,550
and my Amen. My my messes my mess

1760
01:00:55,550 --> 01:00:57,789
up and my mess. Just just the mess

1761
01:00:57,789 --> 01:00:59,010
that I am. Amen.

1762
01:00:59,390 --> 01:01:01,125
But I wanna strive to be more like

1763
01:01:01,204 --> 01:01:02,824
him. I wanna strive to,

1764
01:01:04,565 --> 01:01:06,885
to to not fall in front of people,

1765
01:01:06,885 --> 01:01:07,125
to,

1766
01:01:08,244 --> 01:01:10,405
to make the right choices when they need

1767
01:01:10,405 --> 01:01:13,284
to be made, to to choose Jesus when

1768
01:01:13,284 --> 01:01:14,585
I could choose myself

1769
01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:16,940
and and be that example that I need

1770
01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:19,019
to be. I don't want anybody looking at

1771
01:01:19,019 --> 01:01:21,980
me, right, as savior, king, or anything. But

1772
01:01:21,980 --> 01:01:23,739
I do wanna be an example in a

1773
01:01:23,739 --> 01:01:26,059
picture of him. Yeah. Yeah. We all ought

1774
01:01:26,059 --> 01:01:27,820
to strive to be that way. Don't put

1775
01:01:27,820 --> 01:01:30,059
a stumbling block block in a brother's way.

1776
01:01:30,059 --> 01:01:32,434
That's right. Can't say it. Amen. And don't

1777
01:01:32,434 --> 01:01:34,515
don't not only don't just put one, don't

1778
01:01:34,515 --> 01:01:37,554
be the stumbling block. Yeah. Don't don't willingly

1779
01:01:37,554 --> 01:01:39,554
put yourself down there as a stumbling block.

1780
01:01:39,554 --> 01:01:41,394
Amen. And that goes back to the the

1781
01:01:41,394 --> 01:01:43,414
very first one about us being hypocrites.

1782
01:01:44,260 --> 01:01:46,039
You know, one of the quickest ways to

1783
01:01:46,180 --> 01:01:48,019
to help that one not be as big

1784
01:01:48,019 --> 01:01:48,760
of an issue,

1785
01:01:49,380 --> 01:01:52,099
stop being the stumbling block. Be honest. Be

1786
01:01:52,099 --> 01:01:54,739
genuine. Yeah. Start being the person who is

1787
01:01:54,739 --> 01:01:56,500
honest about it and says, yeah. I've failed.

1788
01:01:56,500 --> 01:01:58,014
I've fallen on my face. And when you

1789
01:01:58,014 --> 01:01:59,375
go to your brother, you see him doing

1790
01:01:59,375 --> 01:02:02,034
something, especially for a mistake you've made yourself.

1791
01:02:02,335 --> 01:02:03,074
Hey, brother.

1792
01:02:03,534 --> 01:02:05,855
I've been where you are. Yeah. I've made

1793
01:02:05,855 --> 01:02:07,534
the decision that you're in the process of

1794
01:02:07,534 --> 01:02:09,054
making, and I can tell you this, this,

1795
01:02:09,054 --> 01:02:10,655
and this are the consequences of it. And

1796
01:02:10,655 --> 01:02:12,639
this is the results, and you are headed

1797
01:02:12,639 --> 01:02:13,460
down a

1798
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,920
really, really bad spot path. And you know

1799
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,000
what? One of two things will happen. Either

1800
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,460
that brother is gonna get convicted,

1801
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,820
or he's gonna spit in your face. Yeah.

1802
01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:24,099
And either way,

1803
01:02:24,585 --> 01:02:27,005
it's okay. I did I did what god's

1804
01:02:27,864 --> 01:02:29,804
has has for us to do. And

1805
01:02:30,344 --> 01:02:32,105
But we do this at at Iconis in

1806
01:02:32,105 --> 01:02:34,744
love. Right? We're Yeah. His tail wide open.

1807
01:02:34,744 --> 01:02:36,984
Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. We gotta be

1808
01:02:36,984 --> 01:02:38,699
careful the way we we approach.

1809
01:02:39,179 --> 01:02:40,619
And look here, it goes back to this

1810
01:02:40,619 --> 01:02:42,219
too. We're going back to the whole judgment

1811
01:02:42,219 --> 01:02:43,359
thing. Look,

1812
01:02:44,380 --> 01:02:46,940
we should be more fruit inspectors of each

1813
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other,

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Christians to Christians Yeah. Than than we are

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in the world. Right? I mean,

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look, if you're if you're out there in

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the world, you're and you're demeaning all these

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sins, you're just doing what a lost person

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does. Right? You don't want you you don't

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have the Holy Spirit living inside of you.

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My job and my purpose is not to

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come point your sin out to you and

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say, oh, look. You're doing this and you're

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doing this and you're doing this, and and

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that sin is what's keeping you,

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from going to heaven. Well, no. That's not

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true. No. You're

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you're not gonna go to heaven because you

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didn't accept Jesus Christ as your lord and

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savior. Right? Right. Yes. Sin separates you from

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God, but Jesus bridged the gap between you

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and him, and you've got to have him.

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And so but but it's it's when we're

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around each other. Right? It's when we look

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at each other and we say, man, that's

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that was hypocritical or that was, you know,

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that was kinda like a Pharisee would do

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or this. And, look, if you're if you're

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one guy at church and you're another guy

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out there in the world, man, you're you're

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running the church.

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Straighten your butt up and do right. You

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know? Do what's right. Live live I'm not

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saying don't ever make a mistake. I'm not

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saying I don't make mistakes. But if you're

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completely different person around around a different crowd,

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if you can adapt to if you're like

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a chameleon that whoever you're around, that's how

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you act like, then, man, straighten up because

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they're watching you, and and you may be

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the reason they don't come to church, and

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you may be the reason that their blood

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is on your hands when they're when you

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stand in judgment. Yeah. Camo Christians. I see

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01:04:12,449 --> 01:04:15,269
it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well and yeah. That's

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that's exactly it. The cam the camo Christians,

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the Christians that just wanna fit in.

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And don't get me wrong, we have to

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have a witness, but part of that witness

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means being in the world, but not of

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it. And and there's a reason Paul uses

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that wording.

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So, you know, remember that as we go

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out this week, as we go forward, remember

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there there are no there are no

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errors

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with God. There are no mistakes with God.

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He knows what he's doing. Yeah. He's he's

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01:04:42,699 --> 01:04:45,820
prepared us this this wonderful instruction manual that

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he he took the time over, you know,

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a couple thousand years. I mean, it wasn't

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01:04:49,554 --> 01:04:50,755
like he spent very much time on it

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01:04:50,755 --> 01:04:52,594
or anything. I mean Yeah. Didn't inspire a

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01:04:52,594 --> 01:04:54,195
bunch of different people to ride it. It's

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01:04:54,195 --> 01:04:56,515
not not one of those things. I mean,

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01:04:56,515 --> 01:04:57,974
he did it on a weekend. Okay?

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01:04:59,074 --> 01:05:01,155
But he gave us this great instruction manual

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and says, look. You wanna know everything you

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need to know about how to live a

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01:05:04,529 --> 01:05:05,889
great life and how to have a good

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01:05:05,889 --> 01:05:07,409
life and how to live a fulfilling life

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01:05:07,409 --> 01:05:08,309
and how to have,

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01:05:08,769 --> 01:05:10,849
all the things that I've promised you? Right.

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Here's the instructions. See it. So dive into

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01:05:13,089 --> 01:05:15,730
the word, read it, apply it. And you

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know what?

1887
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Sometimes you gotta take your medicine, and it

1888
01:05:19,264 --> 01:05:20,464
it tastes pretty bad when you get in

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01:05:20,464 --> 01:05:21,585
there and you get to reading through some

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01:05:21,585 --> 01:05:23,744
of those sections, and you're like, oh, wow.

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01:05:23,744 --> 01:05:26,164
That, That hits me. Feels familiar.

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01:05:26,944 --> 01:05:29,420
You read some I can't you know, in

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01:05:29,420 --> 01:05:30,940
my own life, the number of times I'll

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01:05:30,940 --> 01:05:32,860
get into Proverbs or some of those, and

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01:05:32,860 --> 01:05:34,460
I'll start reading some of the things that

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where Solomon's, you know, talking through, and he's

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01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:37,579
like, yeah. You should be doing this and

1898
01:05:37,579 --> 01:05:39,099
this, and you shouldn't be doing this. And,

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01:05:39,099 --> 01:05:40,940
boy, that is just an awful idea. And

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I'm like, oh, well, why is he I

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01:05:42,780 --> 01:05:44,320
need to go to a different section.

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Yeah. You know, it it it is. It's

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01:05:47,594 --> 01:05:49,835
one of those things. It it convicts us.

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01:05:49,835 --> 01:05:52,235
It it burns us, and it it brings

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01:05:52,235 --> 01:05:53,835
us to where we need to be with

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01:05:53,835 --> 01:05:56,635
god. So so dive in and be ready.

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Be ready to answer. Be ready to answer

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01:05:58,474 --> 01:06:00,480
the questions that people have and be ready

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01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,719
to just tell them, hey. Look. Yeah. We

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01:06:02,719 --> 01:06:04,980
all make mistakes. None of us are perfect.

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01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,199
And Christ loves you anyway, and he wants

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01:06:07,199 --> 01:06:08,960
you to be one of his. So come

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01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,639
on in. Join the rest of join the

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01:06:10,639 --> 01:06:13,360
rest of us sinners saved by grace. Because,

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01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,085
yeah, Great. His grace is sufficient and we're

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01:06:16,085 --> 01:06:17,625
all live by it. Right?

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Amen. Amen. Oh, brother Dennis, will you dismiss

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us tonight? Yep. Father, thank you. Thank you

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for this time together with these brothers.

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Father, I pray for, for your blessings on

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01:06:28,085 --> 01:06:28,885
them and and and,

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01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:31,360
and their families. And father, I pray for

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anyone listening that that has had any of

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01:06:33,519 --> 01:06:35,360
these questions and is just stumped by them.

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01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,900
Father, that you would give them wisdom.

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Wisdom from from, the true wisdom that only

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01:06:40,239 --> 01:06:42,239
you can give. And father, help to help

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01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:44,159
us to understand you more, to know that

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01:06:44,159 --> 01:06:45,219
you're not just,

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the the almighty God who's ready to crack

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01:06:48,454 --> 01:06:49,894
a whip on us, but you want a

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01:06:49,894 --> 01:06:52,295
relationship with us, that you wanna treat us

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01:06:52,295 --> 01:06:53,275
like your children.

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And father, help us to be good kids.

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Father, thank you for this this time, and

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I pray your blessings on, everyone listening as

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we go through the rest of this week.

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In Jesus' name, amen.

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Special thank you to Carter Pridmore, Brian Harris,

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Waverly Henderson,

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Tatum Harris Spears, and Josie Bartain for our

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theme song, Truth Set Me Free.

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I've been Tyler Goza on production and audio.

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We hope you can join us live next

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Monday at 6PM central.

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