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In chains I was bound,

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I was a madman on the run.

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Through the hills I wandered.

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I was running from the sun.

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But truth found me there.

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It was in my darkest eye.

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I traded my black

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Welcome to Tell the Truth, a weekly podcast

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about faith, current events, and life in general,

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brought to you from Mountain View Baptist Church

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live every Monday night at 6PM

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central time.

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And welcome back this week. It is so

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good to have everybody joining us, again.

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Hopefully

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everything's going well on the end of listeners.

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I had a little bit of a technical

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rumble stream earlier, so I apologize if that

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goes out again. Hopefully,

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the audio stream will at least stay up.

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Tonight, we've got a another special guest,

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and this is a repeat guest, our our

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first repeat. So,

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nice to have Tanner back with us tonight.

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Hey, man. Good to be here. Good to

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be here. Hopefully, you've had a good day

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and a a good time getting started and

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getting ready to have our discussion tonight. Yeah.

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Yeah. It's been a busy day, but, you

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of course, just this is another Monday. So

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trying to get into

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work and,

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just every other day. So Awesome. And what

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about you, brother Dennis? How's your day going?

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Not too good, man. But here I am.

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It is just gonna get better now. Getting

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better now. Hey. Well, I had the the

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fun experience of getting into work this morning

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and, you know, get get through your morning

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meeting and, you know, getting your coffee and

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run by the restroom. And all of our

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water was out on the floor I was

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on and the floor below me. And then,

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of course, the floor above me was covered

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over from all the people that were going

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to the air to use the water on

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the,

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the floor above me. So I ended up

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down in the lobby of our building trying

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to find where the, the the bathrooms were

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down there because they've re redone everything and,

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finally found them behind a bunch of boxes

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where they were working on some.

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was a absolutely wonderful start to my day.

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More coffee.

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More coffee. How about you, brother Brian? Been

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busy. Man, it's been a good day. Busy?

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Busy and good days are good. Yeah. Yeah.

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Alright. Well, I think we are, we're just

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gonna dive straight in tonight. This this is

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this is gonna be a fun one. We

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are discussing

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what to look for,

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in false religion.

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You know, what what are some signs

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that we have,

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or some signs the word of God gives

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us, signs that we can look for,

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that would tell us, hey. Some some warning

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signs, some red flags.

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Hey. This is not right. You know? This

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this is leaning towards,

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a religion that could be taking the bible

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out of context

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or it could be,

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completely

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just

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mingling the bible all the pieces,

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but and some of them are very, very

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well seen, and clear.

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Hey. That's false. You can look at it.

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them are a little bit more subtle than

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that. So yeah. And and then if we

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have time, we're gonna talk a little bit

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about what do I look for when I

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look for a church and, what do I

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look for in that, you know. We're looking

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at this in the context of Christianity. It's

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like Buddhism versus all of a sudden, which

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one to pick, right? Yeah. It's Christianity.

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in the weeds. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, and

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that's such a hard thing to spot, I

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think, sometimes because either a, people are unchurched.

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so they're not in it and they're not

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hearing the word. They're not hearing the truth

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constantly.

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are hearing it,

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they're

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getting just the surface level stuff. And that's

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one of those things where if you only

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go to church on Sunday morning,

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you can get very good messages and you

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get a lot of truth in that, but

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sometimes you're you're skimming the surface because there's

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I mean, it's an hour it's an hour

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a week at the end of the day,

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Sunday morning. And if you go if you

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go twice a week, if you go Sunday

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morning, Sunday night, well, that's two hours a

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week. And each time, you only have an

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hour to have all your singing and any

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testimony service and any collection taken up and

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any and there that's a lot to cram

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into a fairly short period of time. You're

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getting a a very skimmed over

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version of our of our faith. Assuming you're

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going to

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a a a sound church. Yeah. Yeah. That's

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assuming you're going to a sound church to

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begin with. And and then if you're not,

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you're not even getting that much. You're getting

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a lot of very good, feel good,

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talk that'll make you feel like you're just

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doing great. And congratulations,

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it's a good thing that you you came

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here today because

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Try try eating just once a week. Yeah.

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It ain't happening.

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And that goes back to, like, what actually

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is a Christian?

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Because, I mean, you have to define what

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a Christian is at that point. Who's a

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Christian? Who's not Christian?

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just a Sunday deal.

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It's a lifestyle. It's a commitment to Christ.

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It's not necessarily just

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a show that we go to or wear

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our best clothes or

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I guess be on our best behavior

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in front of people. It's a lifestyle. It

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is. It is. And and we wanna get

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something out of it. Right? I mean, we

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wanna glorify God for that's number one. But

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we wanna grow from our church. We want

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to be fed at our church. We want

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to be able to take what we hear

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and bring that to a lost and dying

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world so that they can hear the truth

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too. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Absolutely. So so what do we look for,

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Tanner?

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just, I guess,

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what I mentioned before, defining what a Christian

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actually is Yeah. First before we get into

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whether somebody is, I guess, in religion or

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in actual biblical Christianity.

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scriptures, I mean, Jesus said it's the best

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in Nicodemus. You have to be born again.

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on how to be a follower of him,

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he just says to follow. Yeah. Yeah. And

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not only that, to believe on him. That's

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right. Yeah. So Yeah. Yeah. And and and

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and being of course, the word Christian means

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being Christ like, but,

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it it goes so much deeper. Right? That's

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just the surface because you can talk to

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a lot of different religions that say that

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they're Christ like. I mean, we we talked

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about the Mormon religion a little bit last

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time, and and you can talk to somebody,

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in that in that,

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in that sect of religion. And, they'll say,

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oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we believe

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in Christ. We believe in we believe he's

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he's, god's son. We believe you know? And

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then when you get into it deeper and

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deeper and deeper, you realize, well, they don't

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believe the same way that the Bible teaches

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us. Yeah. And it would fool you if

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you walk in the the door on Sunday

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morning. Right? Because all these people are so

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nice, you know, they're so friendly and so

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they just they just wanna love people. Yeah.

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Yeah. But but where are they doctrinally? Right.

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and that's that's one of the things I

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got here. You know, distortion of the truth.

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Right? And and and and focus on half

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truths. That's what they really bear down on.

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It's it's often a a mixture of truth

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and doctrinal errors,

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and and and it really makes things dangerous

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because there's just enough truth in there to

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get you pulled into it. Yeah. I mean,

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the half truths. Like, for example, if we

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look at Mormonism,

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which we looked at that the last time

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I was here,

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they believe that,

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that Jesus actually lived.

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He died.

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He even rose from the dead. Right. But

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they completely contradict the historical accounts of what

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Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John and Paul have

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wrote about Jesus.

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see these contradictions,

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you're not worshiping

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the actual Jesus historically. You're worshiping a image,

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a false image

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of Christ Yeah. Which is more dangerous.

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lot of those religions, like the Mormon religion,

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like, Jehovah's Witness,

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they

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they claim

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a divine revelation

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from

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something other than

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God himself. Right? I mean, as the Mormons

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do, it's a it's a it's an angel,

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that, that they say, hey. This is where

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we got our information from, and and they,

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they conclude that that angel came from

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from God, you know,

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when when it doesn't line up with God's

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word at all. Yeah. Just because he said

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he did. Yeah. Just because he said he

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did. And and look, there's people waiting to

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hang on to that stuff. Right? Absolutely. They're

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looking.

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You know, I saw a and it kind

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of shocked me,

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an interview

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I can't remember the young man's name who

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does it, but he goes around and he

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interviews a lot of different,

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Christians and people that have been involved in

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different things,

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when it comes to Christianity.

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And one of the guys he was interviewing

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was a guy that used to be very,

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very heavily into the occult back in the

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and has gotten out of it. Became a

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Christian actually because of a lot of the

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things he got let into and he got

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looking at it going, man, this stuff just

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doesn't make any sense. This stuff is dangerous.

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And one of the places that he was

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told the deeper he got into it was,

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yeah, you know, you need to go to

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these people, you need to go to these

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people and and he was directed all the

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church of Satan and all this kind of

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stuff. And one of them was the Mormon

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church. Yeah. If you ever need help, you

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go talk to the Mormons. Yeah. And and

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you go tell them this and this and

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and the people that are if you're at

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the right church and the people are in

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the right position, they're gonna know what you're

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talking about and they'll help you out. Yeah.

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And they literally have people within their church

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that will just go, oh, yeah. Yeah. We're

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worshiping the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. This is

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the same faith, same God. Mhmm. And it's

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like

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Mhmm. This guy's literally talking about having rights

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where he's selling a soul to Satan. Yeah.

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Yeah. I'm like, you guys need to, you

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know and he was like he was like,

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he said so he said, I'm very, you

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know, he the the kid asked him. Apparently,

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he's written several books and stuff over the

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years. And he said, the number one thing

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that I tell Christians, stay away from him.

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He said, stay away from Mormons, stay away

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from Jehovah's Witness and stay away from,

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the,

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oh, what are their names? The, the brotherhood

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group.

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Can't think of the name of it.

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Do they all wear the same color shoes

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as Doug? No.

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No.

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The the fraternity group that's just everywhere in

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The US,

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Oh, the Freemasons.

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Yeah. He's like he's like up. That's Yeah.

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Yeah. He's like, you need to stay away

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from these people. He said, because while, yes,

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they own the surface, a lot of these

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are Christian

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Yeah. Quote unquote. And and the guy says

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it just like he goes Christian, holds his

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air quotes, and he's like

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he said, they're not. Yeah. No. And I

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say, you know, if I was,

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stranded somewhere in the middle of the country

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and looking for a church, I think the

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first thing I do when I walked in

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the door of one is is, ask the

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same question that Jesus asked his disciples. Who

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do you say that I am? Yeah. Yeah.

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Who is Jesus to these people? That's right.

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And I think that's, like, core and central

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to everything in my mind. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Absolutely. So and you got those mainstream,

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cults that that we've mentioned. And but,

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again, like you said, not only those are

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false religions, but a lot of them are

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so hidden,

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under the cloak of Christianity.

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Yeah. And some other things that we gotta

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look for, and one of the other things

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I got here is is tolerance of immorality.

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Yes. I mean, you got churches out there

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that say, hey. You can do anything you

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wanna do. You can you can live any

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way you wanna live, and you're still gonna

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be fine, and you're still gonna you know,

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listen. We we've established here that we believe

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in eternal security. Right?

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But I do not believe that if you

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are truly saved that you can continue to

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live a lifestyle that's contrary to the word

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of God. Miserable. Yeah. Yeah. No. Not without

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being a terribly miserable person. Yeah.

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And and if the and if the church

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itself

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tolerates immorality and says, hey, it's okay.

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Listen, are we saying that

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that we don't want people from all walks

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of life to come into our church? No.

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That's not what we're saying at all.

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You know, we we listen, the church is

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full of sinners and we want

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people who are,

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you know,

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if you're if you're a a thief or

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or or whatever you may be, you know,

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whatever that sin may be, we you need

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Jesus. Right? And and we want to we

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want to welcome you in and show you

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who Jesus is and then watch him transform

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your life, but we do not tolerate

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sin. We shouldn't. No. And that and, like,

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something that you're like, when you were talking

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about,

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I guess,

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being,

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I guess,

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accepting sin as, you know, this is something

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that,

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I want to do,

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or this is something that, you know, I

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think is right, but, you know, the Bible

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contradicts it.

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But I I still live it anyway, so

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I still want to do this, this, and

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this. Yeah. To be honest, most of the

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time, it's because of self idolatry.

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Yeah. You know, it's what I wanna do

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Yes. Or I wanna fill my void with,

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And it's probably the one of the most

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overlooked

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sense Yeah. That

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people make is

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the self, I want to do what I

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want to do. Yeah. Or I want to

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please myself in this way. Or,

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like, it's one of the most, I guess,

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not looked at sins

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that people make, and it leads to other

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sins Absolutely. As well. And, you know, it

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it's the very first

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commandment. You know, thou shall not have any

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other gods before me. Yeah. Well, sometimes we

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put us

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on top of that pedestal, and that's what

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causes

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everything else. That's probably the biggest religion in

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this country, and then it's self worth of

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self. Yeah. I was talking about yesterday in

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a message yesterday.

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They you know, Jesus said, look. Or god

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said, look. Here's here's a list of rules.

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Here's some things that if you're going if

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you're gonna go into the promised land, here's

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here's how I want you to live, and

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here's what I want you to do. And

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one of the main things he told him

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was get rid of your idols. Right?

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And and again,

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I go back and use this word again.

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It's so subtle, the things that we sometimes,

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do, they don't seem like idols. Right? I

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mean, you got you got the the parent

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that supports their children,

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in the sports that they play and the

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things that they do. And and you think,

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man, that's a great dad. That's a great

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mom. Hey. They're members of our church. We

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don't see them a whole lot, but, hey.

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They're out there supporting their kids. They're they're,

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you know, they're trying to,

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trying to train them, help them build their

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their, their athletic ability, and maybe someday they'll

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get something out of it.

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But what are you really doing in essence?

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Right? You're you're you're placing an importance on

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something

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that,

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that shouldn't be. You're you're putting it in

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front of of God. Right? Again, I'm not

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saying don't play sports. Don't let your kids

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play sports. My I play sports, my kids

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play sports. I love it. But when you

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begin to put those things in front of

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God, they become idols. And it's like, this

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is what I wanna do, this is the

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thing, this is how I wanna live. It's

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more important. And there's there's a huge difference

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to be clear. We're not, you know,

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we're not saying that you will never ever

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under any circumstances miss a church service because

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of a special ballgame or something unique something

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special going on. They made the playoffs and

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you've you've had to drive, you know, all

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all day Saturday and then you're you're not

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coming back till late Sunday afternoon or whatever

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to get to it. That's not what we're

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talking about. But a lot of these sports

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teams nowadays, you're expected to be at practice

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at 11:00 on Sunday morning. Mhmm. And it's

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like, these are high schoolers. These are kids.

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Some of them aren't even in high school.

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This is middle school. Yeah. That I'm you

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know, I you know, these are 10 year

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old boys. Yeah. I heard to say.

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Yeah. Like, I mean, they're, you know, cheating,

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you know, every single day no matter, you

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know, if it's dark, if it's, you know,

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if it's light. It doesn't matter.

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I I was kinda in that basketball routine.

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And, I mean,

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I even have a personal story whenever he

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was talking about basketball being a or, like,

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are you basically, basketball was an idol for

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me. Yeah. I had to quit my senior

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year Right. Because I was putting that

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up, I guess,

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above what god wanted me to do. Yeah.

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So as far as a personal level, that

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really hit me just because that's something that

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I had to do Yeah.

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To let go of those idols. Because, I

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mean, at the end of the day, basketball

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is not gonna get me anywhere. It's not

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gonna leave a legacy for my future family.

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Right. Christ is. That's it. That's it. Yeah.

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Well, it was amazing to me the number

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of times that, you know, I would have

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something going on on a Sunday morning or

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whatever and I'm I drive by the schools

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and I'm like, why are their parking lots

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full?

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You know, there's no church there, but I

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I I'm seeing forty, fifty cars sitting out

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there at sometimes 09:10 o'clock on Sunday morning.

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I'm like, what is going on here? This

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doesn't look right. What what's happened?

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And then I get to talking to other

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parents and they're like, oh, yeah. It's every

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every week. And I'm like,

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no.

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Right. Right. Yeah.

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And I mean and that's the thing. I

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I think that's one thing that us Christians

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forget.

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There are a lot of us in the

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country.

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If you just look at the coach and

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say, no,

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and the whole team says

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no,

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guess what? They're not gonna be they're gonna

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move that practice to later in the day

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if they need to if they really need

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it on Sunday, they'll move it to later

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in the day. Yeah. Or they'll say, you

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know what? We're gonna practice Saturday. Yeah. And

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you're done. Yeah. Yeah, but they won't practice

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Saturday because it's gonna get into their time,

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right? You know, that's where the coaches that's

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where where a lot and and I'm not

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saying all coaches are like that at all.

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We got some great men of God coaches

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out there and and Brenna had some good

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ones and, you know, along the way that

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that,

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that she had and and Tatum

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and and cheer and different things. So, yeah,

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I mean, I'm thankful for those the ones

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that they stand on their on their Christian

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principles. But, but, yeah, it can that can

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definitely become an idol.

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Our hobbies, right,

530
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again, you know, I mean, there's nothing wrong

531
00:19:02,484 --> 00:19:05,045
with going on vacation. You miss a Sunday

532
00:19:05,045 --> 00:19:06,805
here. They're sure. I mean, we all do.

533
00:19:06,805 --> 00:19:08,240
Right? That's fine.

534
00:19:08,779 --> 00:19:10,240
I'm talking about consistently,

535
00:19:12,779 --> 00:19:15,339
missing assembling yourselves together and being together with

536
00:19:15,339 --> 00:19:16,400
your Christian family.

537
00:19:17,259 --> 00:19:19,339
That that it becomes it becomes an idol

538
00:19:19,339 --> 00:19:21,259
to you. Right? You get that you get

539
00:19:21,259 --> 00:19:22,960
that, you get that camper

540
00:19:23,404 --> 00:19:25,644
and, and hey. I'm just gonna, you know,

541
00:19:25,644 --> 00:19:27,085
just gonna go every now and then. We're

542
00:19:27,085 --> 00:19:29,085
gonna take a trip here or there. Get

543
00:19:29,085 --> 00:19:31,484
that place over at the river and pretty

544
00:19:31,484 --> 00:19:32,865
soon you're not there

545
00:19:34,204 --> 00:19:36,284
10 Sundays in a row, you know. And

546
00:19:36,284 --> 00:19:38,044
you get and pretty soon you can look

547
00:19:38,044 --> 00:19:39,140
at it and you say, well, you you

548
00:19:39,140 --> 00:19:40,740
can count so and so out this summer

549
00:19:40,740 --> 00:19:42,340
because I know they're we're not gonna see

550
00:19:42,340 --> 00:19:45,220
them until until fall, you know, until It's

551
00:19:45,220 --> 00:19:46,900
easy to fall out of that discipline. Right?

552
00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:48,980
Yeah. And same with bible study and prayer

553
00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:50,820
and everything else. Yeah. It just all fades

554
00:19:50,820 --> 00:19:52,180
away. And then before you know it, you're

555
00:19:52,180 --> 00:19:54,545
in a bad place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We

556
00:19:54,545 --> 00:19:56,305
gotta have discipline in our lives in order

557
00:19:56,305 --> 00:19:58,384
to in order to maintain this walk. That's

558
00:19:58,384 --> 00:20:01,204
right. It shows people's focus to

559
00:20:01,744 --> 00:20:03,904
where their focus is. Yeah. I mean I

560
00:20:03,904 --> 00:20:05,265
mean, the same thing I was talking about

561
00:20:05,265 --> 00:20:07,585
before, source of self idolatry and not only

562
00:20:07,585 --> 00:20:10,029
that, but just pleasing self.

563
00:20:10,570 --> 00:20:13,289
Whenever you have the right priorities or whenever

564
00:20:13,289 --> 00:20:14,509
you have Jesus centered

565
00:20:15,049 --> 00:20:17,289
in your life, everything else revolves around it.

566
00:20:17,289 --> 00:20:20,089
That's right. When something else is I guess

567
00:20:20,089 --> 00:20:22,170
you're revolving something else in your life is

568
00:20:22,170 --> 00:20:25,315
just chaos. Yeah. Yeah. When you put Jesus

569
00:20:25,315 --> 00:20:26,775
in the center of your life,

570
00:20:27,234 --> 00:20:27,734
he

571
00:20:28,035 --> 00:20:30,134
makes everything around you

572
00:20:31,075 --> 00:20:33,634
fit in perfectly. Yeah. Yeah. I love the

573
00:20:33,634 --> 00:20:35,174
word you used earlier, lifestyle.

574
00:20:35,474 --> 00:20:37,734
Yeah. And it really is. It's a lifestyle.

575
00:20:37,954 --> 00:20:39,015
Yeah. Yeah.

576
00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:42,440
And I mentioned I mentioned earlier, we talked

577
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,679
about divine revelations and saying, you know, you

578
00:20:44,679 --> 00:20:46,839
got something from an angel, but sometimes it's

579
00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:47,500
not even

580
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:48,859
from

581
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,160
something like that. I mean, we've got we've

582
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,599
got we've got a lot of,

583
00:20:53,464 --> 00:20:54,365
a lot of charismatic,

584
00:20:55,305 --> 00:20:57,644
religions out there that will say,

585
00:20:57,945 --> 00:21:00,285
alright. God just gave me a new revelation

586
00:21:00,345 --> 00:21:01,945
this morning and I wanna share this new

587
00:21:01,945 --> 00:21:03,545
revelation with you. Let me let me tell

588
00:21:03,545 --> 00:21:04,125
you something.

589
00:21:04,505 --> 00:21:05,325
There is

590
00:21:06,769 --> 00:21:07,909
no new

591
00:21:08,369 --> 00:21:10,390
revelation of god, period.

592
00:21:10,769 --> 00:21:12,609
Everything that we need to know is right

593
00:21:12,609 --> 00:21:15,169
here. Anything else that god might tell you,

594
00:21:15,169 --> 00:21:16,769
and I'm not telling you that god doesn't

595
00:21:16,769 --> 00:21:19,250
reveal things to you, but when god reveals

596
00:21:19,250 --> 00:21:21,669
something to you, it is it is

597
00:21:22,275 --> 00:21:24,914
something that that lines up with the word

598
00:21:24,914 --> 00:21:27,154
of God that we already have. It's it's

599
00:21:27,154 --> 00:21:30,115
it's not in addition to like, hey, here's

600
00:21:30,115 --> 00:21:32,035
a revelation, but now I'm gonna do this

601
00:21:32,035 --> 00:21:34,200
or I've changed this or, you know, it's

602
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,240
it it's a better understanding. That's what he

603
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,960
reveals to us now. A better understanding of

604
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,599
what the text already has there. Right. That's

605
00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:44,599
a big warning sign of a of a

606
00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:46,615
fake Christian church to me is is what

607
00:21:46,615 --> 00:21:48,534
do they do with scripture, right? Yeah. Because

608
00:21:48,534 --> 00:21:49,734
what do you do with Jesus? Who you

609
00:21:49,734 --> 00:21:51,414
say he is? Yes. But how do you

610
00:21:51,414 --> 00:21:52,154
treat scripture?

611
00:21:52,454 --> 00:21:54,375
Do you focus on scripture? Are you focused

612
00:21:54,375 --> 00:21:56,454
on feel good stories for twenty minutes every

613
00:21:56,454 --> 00:21:58,294
Sunday? Yeah. What are you doing with it?

614
00:21:58,294 --> 00:22:00,454
Because I've I've I've had a pastor tell

615
00:22:00,454 --> 00:22:01,914
me that doctrine divides.

616
00:22:02,450 --> 00:22:02,950
Yeah.

617
00:22:03,250 --> 00:22:06,450
Doctor brings together, brother. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody needs

618
00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:08,609
to be fed the same meals. That's right.

619
00:22:08,609 --> 00:22:09,650
That's right. And we need to get that

620
00:22:09,650 --> 00:22:11,029
meal straight out of the book.

621
00:22:11,490 --> 00:22:13,970
If your doctrine is dividing you from the

622
00:22:13,970 --> 00:22:15,410
rest of the Christians in the world, you

623
00:22:15,410 --> 00:22:17,269
need to examine your doctrine. Yeah.

624
00:22:17,775 --> 00:22:20,095
It's just that simple. Now, it doesn't divide

625
00:22:20,095 --> 00:22:20,994
us from the world

626
00:22:21,455 --> 00:22:23,795
100% and it's supposed to Yeah.

627
00:22:24,894 --> 00:22:26,974
Yeah. But his intention was that, well, people

628
00:22:26,974 --> 00:22:29,394
just start fighting over nitpicky details. Well,

629
00:22:30,414 --> 00:22:31,919
go back to the word. Go back to

630
00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:34,000
the word and find the truth. And you

631
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,839
gotta be focused on that as a church

632
00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:37,759
or otherwise, you're gonna it's not even gonna

633
00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:40,079
be a church anymore. Yeah. And it's good

634
00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:42,659
to have those discussions about those nitpicky details.

635
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,200
It is fantastic for a church to decide

636
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,115
where do we stand on this. Because here's

637
00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:49,355
the thing, if y'all if as a church

638
00:22:49,355 --> 00:22:50,255
you come together

639
00:22:50,555 --> 00:22:52,634
and the part of your sister church is

640
00:22:52,634 --> 00:22:54,634
in the area, you realize that you don't

641
00:22:54,634 --> 00:22:57,035
stand anywhere close to the same place on

642
00:22:57,035 --> 00:22:59,115
all the nitpicky details as all these churches

643
00:22:59,115 --> 00:23:01,089
that you're that you're part of the same

644
00:23:01,089 --> 00:23:01,829
group with,

645
00:23:02,529 --> 00:23:04,769
maybe it's time to find another group. Because

646
00:23:04,769 --> 00:23:05,970
if if you're in that much of a

647
00:23:05,970 --> 00:23:07,269
disagreement, y'all can't

648
00:23:07,730 --> 00:23:09,809
you can't worship together in the same way.

649
00:23:09,809 --> 00:23:11,984
Lots of choices out there. Yeah. That's right.

650
00:23:11,984 --> 00:23:14,724
And that's where we get into the primary,

651
00:23:14,865 --> 00:23:16,005
secondary, and tertiary

652
00:23:16,785 --> 00:23:19,444
issues. I mean, primary issues is, like,

653
00:23:19,744 --> 00:23:20,244
necessary

654
00:23:20,545 --> 00:23:22,305
in order to be a Christian. Right. Yeah.

655
00:23:22,305 --> 00:23:24,839
Right. And that's what we're dividing right now

656
00:23:25,079 --> 00:23:27,319
Right. And discussing right now is the primary

657
00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:30,380
issues. Yeah. Is Jesus God? Is he divine?

658
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,579
Is he Yahweh Yahweh? Virgin burst. A virgin

659
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,894
burning dead. Did he die from the

660
00:23:36,455 --> 00:23:36,855
as,

661
00:23:37,575 --> 00:23:39,974
Roman crucifix? Did he rise from the dead?

662
00:23:39,974 --> 00:23:41,355
Yeah. All these things

663
00:23:42,055 --> 00:23:44,134
have to be together. I mean, did God

664
00:23:44,134 --> 00:23:46,535
create the universe? Yes. He did. Yeah. Like,

665
00:23:46,535 --> 00:23:49,174
all these primary issues Sure. Have to be

666
00:23:49,174 --> 00:23:51,515
addressed in order to know if you're in

667
00:23:51,649 --> 00:23:54,210
in a religious or if you're looking at

668
00:23:54,210 --> 00:23:55,990
somebody that's in religion,

669
00:23:56,369 --> 00:23:57,029
quote unquote.

670
00:23:57,490 --> 00:24:00,529
Secondary and tertiary issues is whenever we get

671
00:24:00,529 --> 00:24:01,029
more

672
00:24:01,569 --> 00:24:02,069
argumentative.

673
00:24:02,690 --> 00:24:04,210
Like, for example, pre,

674
00:24:05,695 --> 00:24:08,255
pre crib, post crib. Yeah. Yes. The the

675
00:24:08,255 --> 00:24:09,795
common one. Infant baptism.

676
00:24:10,095 --> 00:24:12,174
Yes. Yeah. Yes. I mean, I mean, if

677
00:24:12,174 --> 00:24:13,775
you don't want if you wanna be wrong,

678
00:24:13,775 --> 00:24:15,634
don't believe in pretrib, but, I mean,

679
00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:19,559
allowed to be wrong.

680
00:24:20,819 --> 00:24:22,679
We'll agree to disagree. Okay.

681
00:24:26,099 --> 00:24:27,859
You know, we say that laughing, but really

682
00:24:27,859 --> 00:24:30,019
and truly, there are there are issues like

683
00:24:30,019 --> 00:24:31,835
that that, you know what? We can disagree

684
00:24:31,835 --> 00:24:34,315
about. Yeah. And it's okay. Yeah. It's okay.

685
00:24:34,315 --> 00:24:35,835
I'm gonna find out I'm wrong about a

686
00:24:35,835 --> 00:24:37,515
few things. I'm sure. Yeah. You know? And,

687
00:24:37,515 --> 00:24:39,115
like, and, like, even with, like, the post

688
00:24:39,115 --> 00:24:40,894
trib, pre trib issue,

689
00:24:41,434 --> 00:24:43,529
it really doesn't matter about the timing. He's

690
00:24:43,529 --> 00:24:44,809
coming to get us. He's coming to get

691
00:24:44,809 --> 00:24:47,369
us. Do you believe he's coming back? Okay.

692
00:24:47,369 --> 00:24:49,529
Well, we're good then. Yeah. Yeah. And people

693
00:24:49,529 --> 00:24:52,090
make this whole thing about, you know, it

694
00:24:52,090 --> 00:24:54,809
being like a, you know, oh, if you're

695
00:24:54,809 --> 00:24:56,809
not pre trib, then you're going to hell.

696
00:24:56,809 --> 00:24:58,825
Right. Like, it it is not like that.

697
00:24:58,825 --> 00:24:59,644
It's a

698
00:24:59,945 --> 00:25:01,005
it's opinionated

699
00:25:01,465 --> 00:25:03,465
or, I guess, not opinionated. It's more of

700
00:25:03,465 --> 00:25:05,625
an educated guess. Yeah. Well, that's where the

701
00:25:05,705 --> 00:25:07,325
like, the I guess, we're called amillennials.

702
00:25:07,865 --> 00:25:10,025
They get really sideways with this is is

703
00:25:10,025 --> 00:25:12,119
is it they're trying to bring Jesus back

704
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,960
instead of Jesus said he's coming back to

705
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,559
get us. Right? Yeah. And that gets a

706
00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:17,960
little sideways. It does. It does. Yeah. And

707
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,279
that that's where you get into the kingdom

708
00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:22,599
now theology that we've talked about before, you

709
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:24,619
know, that they believe that,

710
00:25:25,684 --> 00:25:28,244
may, we god lost control when Adam and

711
00:25:28,244 --> 00:25:28,984
Eve sinned

712
00:25:29,444 --> 00:25:31,224
and that we are somehow

713
00:25:31,605 --> 00:25:32,105
responsible

714
00:25:32,484 --> 00:25:36,244
for gaining control back for god. I'm like,

715
00:25:36,244 --> 00:25:38,164
you you gotta be dead man. That's getting

716
00:25:38,164 --> 00:25:40,184
core. Yeah. Right? And god is not sovereign?

717
00:25:40,244 --> 00:25:42,230
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean I mean

718
00:25:42,349 --> 00:25:42,849
Exactly.

719
00:25:43,789 --> 00:25:44,289
Absolutely.

720
00:25:44,829 --> 00:25:46,509
I mean, I mean, really think about it.

721
00:25:46,509 --> 00:25:47,250
Like, if

722
00:25:47,630 --> 00:25:50,450
if, I guess, Adam and Eve had control

723
00:25:50,509 --> 00:25:53,250
over the world because they didn't sin, like,

724
00:25:53,764 --> 00:25:56,164
that doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Yeah. Like,

725
00:25:56,164 --> 00:25:58,005
if God is the creator of the universe,

726
00:25:58,005 --> 00:26:00,085
he has the power to control anything he

727
00:26:00,085 --> 00:26:02,184
has. Oh, yeah. That he he has created.

728
00:26:02,325 --> 00:26:04,964
Yeah. Yeah. So if, you know, he now

729
00:26:04,964 --> 00:26:06,664
he didn't make us to have free will.

730
00:26:06,804 --> 00:26:09,730
Yeah. But having having complete control and having

731
00:26:09,730 --> 00:26:11,809
dominion over something is two different things. You

732
00:26:11,809 --> 00:26:13,570
know, he did in the word of god

733
00:26:13,570 --> 00:26:15,650
tells us, he gave us dominion over the

734
00:26:15,650 --> 00:26:17,330
animals and the trees and things. He gave

735
00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:19,170
but basically, what he's saying, I'm giving you

736
00:26:19,170 --> 00:26:21,164
this to take care of, to feed you,

737
00:26:21,644 --> 00:26:23,725
to sustain you, you know, those types of

738
00:26:23,725 --> 00:26:26,045
things. But you still report to me. Yeah.

739
00:26:26,045 --> 00:26:26,705
I am

740
00:26:27,404 --> 00:26:28,465
general, chief,

741
00:26:29,085 --> 00:26:31,484
head honcho. I'm I'm the all in all.

742
00:26:31,484 --> 00:26:33,325
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we serve a

743
00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:33,825
king.

744
00:26:34,380 --> 00:26:35,420
That that's one of the way I heard

745
00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:37,420
somebody put it. It's not a democracy. We

746
00:26:37,420 --> 00:26:40,140
serve a king. Right. Right. Theocracy, I guess.

747
00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:42,940
Yeah. And that that goes back. Yeah. Yeah.

748
00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:45,019
The whole the claims of divinity and stuff.

749
00:26:45,019 --> 00:26:45,519
And,

750
00:26:45,980 --> 00:26:46,480
like,

751
00:26:47,019 --> 00:26:48,799
people that call themselves prophets,

752
00:26:50,474 --> 00:26:52,234
I can't line up with that. I just

753
00:26:52,234 --> 00:26:53,515
can't line up with that. You know what

754
00:26:53,515 --> 00:26:54,075
I mean?

755
00:26:54,795 --> 00:26:57,035
It it because because most of the time

756
00:26:57,035 --> 00:26:58,555
in the sense of the word that they're

757
00:26:58,555 --> 00:27:00,394
talking about, they're not saying

758
00:27:01,035 --> 00:27:03,035
a a prophet is someone who brings a

759
00:27:03,035 --> 00:27:05,289
word from God. Now if you're bringing a

760
00:27:05,289 --> 00:27:06,590
word from his word,

761
00:27:07,049 --> 00:27:09,130
I got you. But if you're adding to

762
00:27:09,130 --> 00:27:10,509
what's already here,

763
00:27:11,210 --> 00:27:13,549
I don't arrogant this is. Yeah.

764
00:27:14,970 --> 00:27:16,730
You gotta you gotta be careful in that.

765
00:27:16,730 --> 00:27:18,170
To the one that make me run, I've

766
00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:19,609
I've there are guys out there that call

767
00:27:19,609 --> 00:27:21,454
themselves apostles. Yeah.

768
00:27:22,075 --> 00:27:25,214
Yeah. Yeah. That old there was only 12.

769
00:27:25,355 --> 00:27:27,835
Right. One died and another picked up. That's

770
00:27:27,835 --> 00:27:30,315
it. Yeah. So Right. 12 and done. Yeah.

771
00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:32,234
Yeah. Well, I might as well just use

772
00:27:32,234 --> 00:27:35,339
Jesus's word, go and make disciples That's right.

773
00:27:35,339 --> 00:27:37,099
Yeah. Yeah. Of each other. So we just

774
00:27:37,099 --> 00:27:38,619
might as well just call each each other

775
00:27:38,619 --> 00:27:40,700
disciples, of course, because he's gonna go and

776
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:43,019
make disciples. Right. So, I mean, if we're

777
00:27:43,019 --> 00:27:45,019
really going to classify like that, might as

778
00:27:45,019 --> 00:27:46,539
well just call Call it what it is.

779
00:27:46,619 --> 00:27:47,740
Call it what it is. Yeah. You know,

780
00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:49,315
that'd be a lot more serious way to

781
00:27:49,315 --> 00:27:51,125
look at it than just Christian. Right. Yeah.

782
00:27:51,125 --> 00:27:51,934
Right. Yeah.

783
00:27:52,355 --> 00:27:53,955
Yeah. No. I'm a follower. I'm a follower.

784
00:27:53,955 --> 00:27:55,875
Stop Jesus. That's what a disciple is, isn't

785
00:27:55,875 --> 00:27:57,255
it? Yeah. Yeah. Amen.

786
00:27:57,715 --> 00:27:59,234
Well, and you know, that's the thing. You

787
00:27:59,234 --> 00:28:01,075
have these people, when you look back at

788
00:28:01,075 --> 00:28:04,369
the apostles, they didn't declare themselves apostles. No.

789
00:28:04,369 --> 00:28:07,650
Yeah. Yeah. Right? No. The prophets didn't go

790
00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:09,829
around and say, I'm a prophet. Mhmm.

791
00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:11,109
Other people

792
00:28:11,410 --> 00:28:13,730
heard what they had to say and declared

793
00:28:13,730 --> 00:28:14,950
them a prophet. So,

794
00:28:15,434 --> 00:28:17,355
okay, you're bringing the word of God. That

795
00:28:17,355 --> 00:28:19,115
makes you a a a prophet. No. That

796
00:28:19,115 --> 00:28:20,875
makes you a preacher. Let's be honest. Let's

797
00:28:20,875 --> 00:28:22,714
let's that's what it made you. And most

798
00:28:22,714 --> 00:28:24,315
of the time when they do this, they

799
00:28:24,315 --> 00:28:27,115
they exert authority that that they don't have.

800
00:28:27,115 --> 00:28:27,615
Right?

801
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,880
I mean, I'm the pastor of Mountain View

802
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,960
Baptist Church. So what authority do I have

803
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,960
as a pastor of Mountain View Baptist Church?

804
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,119
I have only the authority that the word

805
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,679
of god gives me. Right? Now, I mean,

806
00:28:38,679 --> 00:28:40,359
to preach the word of god, to teach

807
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:43,000
the word of god, to love people, to

808
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,500
to

809
00:28:44,275 --> 00:28:46,755
love them like God loves me. Right? That's

810
00:28:46,755 --> 00:28:48,994
that's that's the authority that I have here.

811
00:28:48,994 --> 00:28:49,575
I mean,

812
00:28:50,035 --> 00:28:53,575
they the these these men that that basically

813
00:28:53,795 --> 00:28:56,535
rule over the church, that's not their position,

814
00:28:56,809 --> 00:28:58,490
and that's not why they're supposed to be

815
00:28:58,490 --> 00:29:00,569
here. That's not what God called them to.

816
00:29:00,569 --> 00:29:01,390
Yeah. Yeah.

817
00:29:01,929 --> 00:29:03,710
And not only that, the

818
00:29:04,250 --> 00:29:05,470
the other thing that

819
00:29:05,929 --> 00:29:06,429
absolutely

820
00:29:06,890 --> 00:29:08,730
blows my mind when you mentioned the the

821
00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:10,890
charismatics are the number of people I see

822
00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:13,355
that go out there and they get so

823
00:29:13,734 --> 00:29:15,275
caught up in the spiritual gifts.

824
00:29:15,815 --> 00:29:17,815
What is my gift? And they are so

825
00:29:17,815 --> 00:29:19,974
tore up about it. Oh, yeah. That so

826
00:29:19,974 --> 00:29:21,835
and so, they got the gift of prophecy.

827
00:29:21,974 --> 00:29:23,734
Mhmm. And it's like, what what do you

828
00:29:23,734 --> 00:29:25,734
mean? And they literally think this person can

829
00:29:25,734 --> 00:29:27,900
predict the future. Yeah. And I'm going, so

830
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:29,500
you believe that you have a fortune teller

831
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:31,259
in your church? Right. Yeah. Let's let's meet.

832
00:29:31,259 --> 00:29:33,180
Let's call it what it is. Yeah. Or

833
00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:35,099
they believe this person has the ability that

834
00:29:35,099 --> 00:29:36,700
when they say something, it's just gonna happen.

835
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:38,380
They're calling down the power of god. And

836
00:29:38,380 --> 00:29:39,039
I'm like,

837
00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:41,039
you believe in magic? Yeah.

838
00:29:41,355 --> 00:29:43,694
Call it what it is. Stop stop spiritualizing

839
00:29:44,075 --> 00:29:46,315
it. You believe in magic. Yeah. Yeah. I

840
00:29:46,315 --> 00:29:48,315
had a pastor one time, he said, that

841
00:29:48,315 --> 00:29:49,755
that this guy came up to to him

842
00:29:49,755 --> 00:29:51,615
and said, I have a gift of healing.

843
00:29:52,315 --> 00:29:53,835
He said, well, let's go up to Erlanger

844
00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:55,054
Hospital right now.

845
00:29:55,355 --> 00:29:56,849
We'll clean that place out.

846
00:29:59,490 --> 00:30:01,250
He backed up a little bit after that?

847
00:30:01,250 --> 00:30:02,789
Yeah. He backed off. Yeah.

848
00:30:03,089 --> 00:30:05,009
He decided that that gift of healing was

849
00:30:05,009 --> 00:30:06,369
more of a gift to I'm gonna make

850
00:30:06,369 --> 00:30:07,730
him feel a little bit better for a

851
00:30:07,730 --> 00:30:09,929
few minutes. Yeah. That's the problem though with

852
00:30:09,929 --> 00:30:11,365
the with the gift stuff, you know, and

853
00:30:11,365 --> 00:30:12,804
people get so trapped up in the gifts

854
00:30:12,804 --> 00:30:15,605
and and does it really change your life?

855
00:30:15,605 --> 00:30:17,544
Are you walking closer with God?

856
00:30:17,845 --> 00:30:20,404
Are you really is your faith deepening? Is

857
00:30:20,484 --> 00:30:20,984
Right.

858
00:30:21,444 --> 00:30:23,365
Are you being sanctified in this thing? Are

859
00:30:23,365 --> 00:30:25,740
you just bragging about what you got? Amen.

860
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:27,819
Amen. Nine times out of 10, they're bragging.

861
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,380
Yeah.

862
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:31,339
Here's some other things that that

863
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,440
this is good. This might step on some

864
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,740
toes and hurt some pigments.

865
00:30:36,455 --> 00:30:38,214
But there's a lot of churches out there

866
00:30:38,214 --> 00:30:39,275
that lack compassion.

867
00:30:40,134 --> 00:30:41,355
Right? They lack compassion,

868
00:30:41,815 --> 00:30:43,275
and they're discouraging

869
00:30:43,575 --> 00:30:44,394
towards people.

870
00:30:45,335 --> 00:30:46,934
And I'm not telling you to be a

871
00:30:46,934 --> 00:30:47,994
church that encourages

872
00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:48,890
the,

873
00:30:49,349 --> 00:30:51,190
the sin of somebody and what we've already

874
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:53,830
talked about, but to encourage to get behind

875
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:54,890
somebody, to

876
00:30:55,589 --> 00:30:57,830
encourage them to grow in Christ, and and

877
00:30:57,830 --> 00:31:00,150
to be compassionate towards people and love people.

878
00:31:00,150 --> 00:31:01,990
Right? Because there's a lot of there's a

879
00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:04,544
lot of churches out there that get up

880
00:31:04,544 --> 00:31:06,625
there, and they scream and they holler at

881
00:31:06,625 --> 00:31:08,085
everybody and tell everybody,

882
00:31:09,105 --> 00:31:12,065
you know, that's look. God God gives us

883
00:31:12,065 --> 00:31:14,224
messages that steps on toes. I get that.

884
00:31:14,224 --> 00:31:16,085
But he also he also

885
00:31:17,819 --> 00:31:20,140
he also, through the Holy Spirit, gives us

886
00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:20,640
compassion

887
00:31:21,099 --> 00:31:21,839
and love

888
00:31:22,220 --> 00:31:23,119
and encouragement

889
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:25,599
and all that's part of ministry.

890
00:31:25,980 --> 00:31:27,819
And so these churches that are out there,

891
00:31:27,819 --> 00:31:29,420
if you're walking in the church and there's

892
00:31:29,420 --> 00:31:30,859
beating you over the head all the time

893
00:31:30,859 --> 00:31:33,534
and and never encouraging you and never loving

894
00:31:33,534 --> 00:31:35,154
you and always telling you

895
00:31:35,454 --> 00:31:36,994
how messed up you are, then

896
00:31:37,615 --> 00:31:39,294
let the word of God do do its

897
00:31:39,294 --> 00:31:41,534
work. Right. Right. You don't hey. I there

898
00:31:41,615 --> 00:31:42,974
there's not much you have to do if

899
00:31:42,974 --> 00:31:44,849
you preach the word of God. Right. And,

900
00:31:44,849 --> 00:31:46,930
like, that goes back to I mean, even

901
00:31:46,930 --> 00:31:49,650
Paul wrote I mean, first Corinthians talking the

902
00:31:49,650 --> 00:31:52,049
instruction how to deal with sin. Yeah. But

903
00:31:52,049 --> 00:31:54,069
then second Corinthians talks about the

904
00:31:54,529 --> 00:31:55,349
over judgmental

905
00:31:55,809 --> 00:31:56,144
part

906
00:31:56,625 --> 00:31:59,424
of punishment Yeah. For sin. And that's why

907
00:31:59,424 --> 00:32:00,085
he wrote

908
00:32:00,464 --> 00:32:03,424
both first and second Corinthians to to address

909
00:32:03,424 --> 00:32:06,144
these issues. Yeah. But, I mean, just like

910
00:32:06,144 --> 00:32:09,205
what you're saying, there are there's so much,

911
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:11,019
legalistic

912
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,039
Mhmm.

913
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:14,059
I I guess this

914
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:16,279
full you have to do everything by the

915
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:18,440
letter, by the t, which, of course, we're

916
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,200
supposed to be, you know, not sending and

917
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,200
everything like that. But even as little as

918
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,875
just not wearing a towel on Sunday, Like,

919
00:32:23,875 --> 00:32:26,194
it's more legalistic. Yeah. There's no love in

920
00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:28,775
that. That's more keeping by the book. And

921
00:32:28,835 --> 00:32:29,575
as Christians,

922
00:32:30,034 --> 00:32:30,534
there's

923
00:32:31,075 --> 00:32:32,694
giving somebody the truth,

924
00:32:33,154 --> 00:32:35,554
but with love. Yeah. Well, you know, every

925
00:32:35,554 --> 00:32:37,474
serious Christian that comes to church on Sunday

926
00:32:37,474 --> 00:32:39,659
morning has probably already beaten themselves up pretty

927
00:32:39,659 --> 00:32:42,539
bad on the week. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. And

928
00:32:42,539 --> 00:32:44,240
they need some encouragement. They need some

929
00:32:44,619 --> 00:32:47,659
some food. Yeah. Amen. Amen. Well, and I

930
00:32:47,659 --> 00:32:50,539
I always get the I don't remember. Years

931
00:32:50,539 --> 00:32:52,299
ago, I was having a conversation with somebody

932
00:32:52,299 --> 00:32:53,500
and they were like, well, y'all just hate

933
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:54,944
this and hate that and blah blah blah.

934
00:32:54,944 --> 00:32:57,345
And you hate and I realized partway through

935
00:32:57,345 --> 00:32:59,765
the conversation, they're saying you hate people

936
00:33:00,144 --> 00:33:01,904
who do this and people who do and

937
00:33:01,904 --> 00:33:04,005
I went, hang on. Mm-mm. No.

938
00:33:04,464 --> 00:33:05,684
I love the people.

939
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,319
We despise the sin. And they were like,

940
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:10,079
well, I just that just doesn't make any

941
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:11,200
sense to me. And I said, okay. Look

942
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,240
at it this way. I said,

943
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:16,079
we'll take alcoholism. That's bad for you. Right?

944
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:18,240
Oh, yeah. Obviously. Being an alcoholic's terrible. And

945
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,984
I said, yeah. Yeah. I said, alcoholism's bad.

946
00:33:21,464 --> 00:33:23,384
And I said, so where does that develop

947
00:33:23,384 --> 00:33:23,884
from?

948
00:33:24,424 --> 00:33:25,944
And they looked at it. And what do

949
00:33:25,944 --> 00:33:27,625
you mean? I said, well, we we've done

950
00:33:27,625 --> 00:33:29,545
studies. We figured it out. We know what

951
00:33:29,545 --> 00:33:30,444
causes it.

952
00:33:30,744 --> 00:33:32,265
We know where it comes from it. We

953
00:33:32,265 --> 00:33:34,204
do. Yeah. It's a genetic predisposition

954
00:33:34,505 --> 00:33:35,244
to addiction.

955
00:33:35,929 --> 00:33:37,609
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's it.

956
00:33:37,609 --> 00:33:39,369
Yeah. It's awful. And I said, and they're

957
00:33:39,369 --> 00:33:41,690
they're born with this genetic predisposition. They can't

958
00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:43,049
help it. They didn't choose it. They didn't

959
00:33:43,049 --> 00:33:44,910
want it. They don't desire it,

960
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,205
but it's something they just it's there. It's

961
00:33:48,205 --> 00:33:50,684
it's baked into them. Yeah. Yeah. I remember

962
00:33:50,684 --> 00:33:52,705
I remember studying that in school. Yeah.

963
00:33:53,565 --> 00:33:54,065
That's

964
00:33:54,365 --> 00:33:55,505
what we don't like.

965
00:33:55,805 --> 00:33:57,184
We hate the alcoholism,

966
00:33:57,565 --> 00:33:59,644
but we love the alcoholic. Yeah. And we

967
00:33:59,644 --> 00:34:01,244
want the alcoholic to come into church and

968
00:34:01,244 --> 00:34:03,505
we want the alcoholic to be here. But

969
00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:04,759
that addiction,

970
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:06,740
we're gonna we're gonna work with them to

971
00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:08,659
try and get away from that. That's all

972
00:34:08,659 --> 00:34:10,659
sin is. Yeah. It's the same thing. It's

973
00:34:10,659 --> 00:34:12,840
an in it's something that we don't necessarily

974
00:34:12,980 --> 00:34:14,900
want, and it may have a thing where

975
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:16,260
it feels good for a little while. And

976
00:34:16,260 --> 00:34:17,460
there may be a thing that's a draw

977
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:19,855
for it, but it's exactly like addiction. It's

978
00:34:19,855 --> 00:34:21,934
something that's in us. We didn't ask for

979
00:34:21,934 --> 00:34:23,454
it. We didn't wake up one day and

980
00:34:23,454 --> 00:34:25,295
say, I wanna be a sinner. I just

981
00:34:25,295 --> 00:34:26,575
wanna go out and do as bad as

982
00:34:26,575 --> 00:34:28,414
stuff as possible. And why we hate this

983
00:34:28,414 --> 00:34:30,494
stuff is because we're we're loving the person

984
00:34:30,494 --> 00:34:33,030
we know it's destroying them. Exactly. Yeah. And

985
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:34,390
and God didn't give us a bunch of

986
00:34:34,390 --> 00:34:35,989
rules in the old testament just to be

987
00:34:35,989 --> 00:34:37,910
mean. Right? He did it to protect us

988
00:34:37,910 --> 00:34:40,070
and to protect other people from us. That's

989
00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:43,269
right. Right? It's it's not meanness. Amen. No.

990
00:34:43,269 --> 00:34:44,630
It's and it's not from a place I

991
00:34:44,630 --> 00:34:46,635
hate at all. It's a % from love.

992
00:34:46,875 --> 00:34:48,875
Again, you know, like, I think Brian's brought

993
00:34:48,875 --> 00:34:50,394
up a couple of times. If you were

994
00:34:50,394 --> 00:34:52,875
in a burning building and you didn't tell

995
00:34:52,875 --> 00:34:54,795
somebody that the building was burning down around

996
00:34:54,795 --> 00:34:56,554
their ears, how much do you hate that

997
00:34:56,554 --> 00:34:57,454
person? Yeah.

998
00:34:57,755 --> 00:34:59,355
We're we're just telling you that you're in

999
00:34:59,355 --> 00:35:01,599
a burning building. Yeah. Right. Get out. We

1000
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,280
wanna show you the way out. Right? We

1001
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,599
wanna lead you out. We want to walk

1002
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:07,119
with you and say, hey. Come on. Let's

1003
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:08,339
let's go this way,

1004
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:11,119
and and love them like that. So yeah.

1005
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:12,500
I mean, so

1006
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,054
but but we talked about several scriptural accuracy.

1007
00:35:16,275 --> 00:35:18,034
We talked about that a little bit, you

1008
00:35:18,034 --> 00:35:21,155
know, what's important in scripture. It's all important.

1009
00:35:21,155 --> 00:35:23,175
Don't get me wrong. All important.

1010
00:35:23,554 --> 00:35:25,735
Somebody's on the phone and that's kinda weird.

1011
00:35:28,510 --> 00:35:29,896
I should read it to you. Why? But

1012
00:35:30,109 --> 00:35:33,250
man. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't

1013
00:35:33,309 --> 00:35:36,269
do that. But no. But but but instead

1014
00:35:36,269 --> 00:35:37,010
of a goat.

1015
00:35:40,614 --> 00:35:41,675
Yeah. That's true.

1016
00:35:42,054 --> 00:35:44,214
Yeah. It's not real flattering sometimes, is it?

1017
00:35:44,214 --> 00:35:46,614
No. No. But If you're gonna read that

1018
00:35:46,614 --> 00:35:49,014
one, make sure you're reading a modern English

1019
00:35:49,014 --> 00:35:51,894
translation of it where they explain what those

1020
00:35:51,894 --> 00:35:52,954
phrases mean.

1021
00:35:53,309 --> 00:35:55,309
But but, I mean but it it's it's

1022
00:35:55,309 --> 00:35:59,070
important. Right? Doctrine, scriptural accuracy of Yeah. And

1023
00:35:59,070 --> 00:36:01,170
and integrity in in the doctrine.

1024
00:36:01,789 --> 00:36:04,289
That that's important. Those are those are important

1025
00:36:04,349 --> 00:36:04,849
things,

1026
00:36:06,110 --> 00:36:07,890
when we when we're looking,

1027
00:36:08,585 --> 00:36:11,464
you know, for a church and and what's

1028
00:36:11,464 --> 00:36:13,545
false about that church, what's true about that

1029
00:36:13,545 --> 00:36:14,045
church.

1030
00:36:14,664 --> 00:36:17,244
Now if you're looking for the perfect church,

1031
00:36:18,025 --> 00:36:19,644
come to Mountain View. Yes.

1032
00:36:21,059 --> 00:36:21,559
Right

1033
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:24,840
here. We got the first aimless plug.

1034
00:36:26,579 --> 00:36:28,340
Yeah. But no. I mean, you you know,

1035
00:36:28,340 --> 00:36:30,660
if you're looking for the perfect church, once

1036
00:36:30,660 --> 00:36:32,019
you walk in, it should say it's not

1037
00:36:32,019 --> 00:36:33,780
gonna be perfect anymore. Yeah. I mean, it's

1038
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:35,144
it's not it's not gonna happen,

1039
00:36:35,545 --> 00:36:38,425
because we are flawed from the pulpit all

1040
00:36:38,425 --> 00:36:40,105
the way to the back pew. Right? From

1041
00:36:40,105 --> 00:36:41,724
the pulpit all the way to the,

1042
00:36:42,344 --> 00:36:44,364
to the sound booth, especially. But,

1043
00:36:44,905 --> 00:36:46,925
those guys those guys have problems.

1044
00:36:47,545 --> 00:36:49,164
I know it. I know it.

1045
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:51,839
Well, I mean, you know, it's it's it's

1046
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:53,300
it's flawed. We're flawed

1047
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,920
people. But but these things that we're talking

1048
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,000
about, like, looking for looking for a church

1049
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,500
that

1050
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,599
that preaches truth, that that doctrine is important

1051
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:03,614
to them, and and the integrity of doctrine

1052
00:37:03,614 --> 00:37:05,074
is important is important to,

1053
00:37:05,614 --> 00:37:09,054
loving you, loving your family Yeah. Making you

1054
00:37:09,054 --> 00:37:11,934
feel welcome. Right? I mean, inviting you in,

1055
00:37:11,934 --> 00:37:14,195
make you feel welcome. Look at the leadership

1056
00:37:14,335 --> 00:37:16,114
in that church. I mean, seriously,

1057
00:37:16,414 --> 00:37:18,434
look at the leadership in that church.

1058
00:37:18,929 --> 00:37:21,489
Talk to the pastor. Talk to the deacons.

1059
00:37:21,489 --> 00:37:23,089
You know? See what kind of people you're

1060
00:37:23,089 --> 00:37:25,089
dealing with there before you jump in and

1061
00:37:25,089 --> 00:37:26,849
say, hey. This is my church. Well, I'll

1062
00:37:26,849 --> 00:37:27,829
give you my

1063
00:37:28,130 --> 00:37:28,630
personal,

1064
00:37:29,010 --> 00:37:31,329
I mean, story because, you know, I just

1065
00:37:31,329 --> 00:37:33,250
joined this church. Yeah. And

1066
00:37:34,045 --> 00:37:34,945
oh, here we go.

1067
00:37:35,804 --> 00:37:37,744
Shout out to tell the truth.

1068
00:37:39,005 --> 00:37:40,844
Still doing a five star review? Yes.

1069
00:37:41,565 --> 00:37:42,465
4.5.

1070
00:37:42,925 --> 00:37:43,505
You know?

1071
00:37:44,125 --> 00:37:45,265
So, like, personally,

1072
00:37:45,724 --> 00:37:47,244
we were in a season to where we

1073
00:37:47,244 --> 00:37:49,184
were looking for a church.

1074
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:50,780
And

1075
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:53,320
one of the things that I guess, there's

1076
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,480
three things that the Lord impressed in my

1077
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,260
heart that we needed.

1078
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,880
That one was, of course, sound doctrine and

1079
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,880
preaching behind the pulpit, in which I believe

1080
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,244
100% brother Brian does an excellent job.

1081
00:38:04,644 --> 00:38:07,445
Yeah. Never steers away from the truth in

1082
00:38:07,445 --> 00:38:10,025
through and never steals away from the Bible.

1083
00:38:11,445 --> 00:38:14,244
Second is there's a true love towards the

1084
00:38:14,244 --> 00:38:14,744
brethren

1085
00:38:15,125 --> 00:38:16,985
and for true discipleship,

1086
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,380
because that's something that me, I know Hannah,

1087
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,319
need personally just because we need community. We

1088
00:38:23,319 --> 00:38:25,880
need Absolutely. To lean on each other with

1089
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,519
problems and with issues and Yeah. Stuff like

1090
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:30,679
that. And and that's something that me and

1091
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:32,839
especially with a young married couple, that we

1092
00:38:32,839 --> 00:38:36,154
need. Yeah. And then three, and this is

1093
00:38:36,614 --> 00:38:39,094
probably a a good one too, is we

1094
00:38:39,094 --> 00:38:41,594
have a freedom of worship Yeah. Here.

1095
00:38:42,214 --> 00:38:45,114
And for for me, a freedom of worship

1096
00:38:45,174 --> 00:38:48,054
is very important because, I mean, that's it

1097
00:38:48,054 --> 00:38:49,679
is a place of worship. Yeah. Sure.

1098
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,839
You know, if you don't have the freedom

1099
00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:53,859
to worship your almighty creator,

1100
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:54,659
then,

1101
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,480
you know, where are you gonna do it?

1102
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,559
Which I believe that if you're not worshiping

1103
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:00,559
god every single day, then you might have

1104
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:02,420
to rethink your Christianity. But

1105
00:39:02,974 --> 00:39:05,454
it's a place of worship where like minded

1106
00:39:05,454 --> 00:39:05,954
believers

1107
00:39:06,255 --> 00:39:07,074
gather together

1108
00:39:07,454 --> 00:39:12,015
to exhort Jesus' name. Yeah. And that that's

1109
00:39:12,015 --> 00:39:13,855
why I believe that the lord led us

1110
00:39:13,855 --> 00:39:14,755
here. And

1111
00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:16,579
so yeah. And there's a freedom here too.

1112
00:39:16,579 --> 00:39:18,340
There's there's all kinds of different people here

1113
00:39:18,340 --> 00:39:20,019
too. You know? There there are people who

1114
00:39:20,019 --> 00:39:21,860
are real solemn that they keep their head

1115
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:23,780
down, maybe quiet. Yeah. There are people who

1116
00:39:23,780 --> 00:39:25,140
stand up and throw their hands up near

1117
00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:27,219
and sing along. You know? Yeah. Everything in

1118
00:39:27,219 --> 00:39:30,324
between. Testimony, sometimes these these services run into

1119
00:39:30,324 --> 00:39:32,644
testimony services and they're it just starts bouncing

1120
00:39:32,644 --> 00:39:34,404
around the room. You know? Yeah. It's it's

1121
00:39:34,404 --> 00:39:35,764
it's a good place. It is. And we

1122
00:39:35,764 --> 00:39:37,284
love we love to have you here. Yeah.

1123
00:39:37,284 --> 00:39:38,264
Yeah. Amen.

1124
00:39:38,724 --> 00:39:39,224
Amen.

1125
00:39:39,605 --> 00:39:40,105
Absolutely.

1126
00:39:40,644 --> 00:39:41,144
Mhmm.

1127
00:39:43,989 --> 00:39:47,109
A church who who stands on biblical principles.

1128
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:48,569
Right? Prior towards

1129
00:39:49,269 --> 00:39:49,769
prioritize.

1130
00:39:50,949 --> 00:39:51,769
I can't talk.

1131
00:39:52,869 --> 00:39:56,569
Churches that emphasize biblical preaching, worship, discipleship,

1132
00:39:58,054 --> 00:40:00,054
all those different things. We talked we've talked

1133
00:40:00,054 --> 00:40:02,054
a lot about discipleship in the last few

1134
00:40:02,054 --> 00:40:04,474
weeks. In fact, I think next week,

1135
00:40:05,174 --> 00:40:07,894
brother Byron's coming in. We're gonna really hone

1136
00:40:07,894 --> 00:40:10,375
in on on the the whole discipleship thing

1137
00:40:10,375 --> 00:40:11,434
and what it takes,

1138
00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:14,410
to make a disciple. Like, what goes into

1139
00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:17,710
making a disciple from, you know, helping somebody

1140
00:40:18,170 --> 00:40:18,670
become

1141
00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:20,430
a disciple of Christ.

1142
00:40:21,769 --> 00:40:25,025
Again, you you mentioned that community. Right? Community

1143
00:40:25,025 --> 00:40:27,184
is Yeah. Is a big a big thing.

1144
00:40:27,184 --> 00:40:29,364
A church where you feel welcome and connected

1145
00:40:29,425 --> 00:40:32,385
and able to, to to have a good

1146
00:40:32,385 --> 00:40:34,864
relationship with other people in there linked into

1147
00:40:34,864 --> 00:40:35,364
it.

1148
00:40:36,650 --> 00:40:38,809
A welcome atmosphere, I think that goes along

1149
00:40:38,809 --> 00:40:41,530
with all that. You know? That so Yeah.

1150
00:40:41,530 --> 00:40:43,130
I'll and I'll throw out one of the

1151
00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:44,809
things you gotta look for is a church

1152
00:40:44,809 --> 00:40:45,309
that's

1153
00:40:45,690 --> 00:40:48,650
that's actively doing something. Yeah. You don't want

1154
00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:50,925
churches that are if you pull up to

1155
00:40:50,925 --> 00:40:52,285
a church or you go in, you may

1156
00:40:52,285 --> 00:40:53,905
really like what it sounds like,

1157
00:40:55,164 --> 00:40:56,864
but if it ends there,

1158
00:40:57,405 --> 00:40:58,925
if they do their thing on Sunday and

1159
00:40:58,925 --> 00:40:59,664
that's it,

1160
00:41:00,204 --> 00:41:00,945
it's over.

1161
00:41:01,805 --> 00:41:03,829
They're not doing any kind of outreach. They're

1162
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:05,230
not trying to help people. They're not trying

1163
00:41:05,230 --> 00:41:06,010
to do anything.

1164
00:41:06,949 --> 00:41:09,110
Slow down. Yeah. Question question because they should

1165
00:41:09,110 --> 00:41:11,430
be even if it's I mean, and it

1166
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:13,030
it doesn't have to be big things. Don't

1167
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:14,550
get me wrong. I'm not saying that every

1168
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:15,690
church is gonna have

1169
00:41:15,989 --> 00:41:19,085
enough members or or enough financial resources available

1170
00:41:19,085 --> 00:41:21,565
to go out and provide food for people

1171
00:41:21,565 --> 00:41:22,944
all the time and all that, but

1172
00:41:23,244 --> 00:41:25,085
they should be, you know, helping the local

1173
00:41:25,085 --> 00:41:27,005
food bank going and working and serving. You

1174
00:41:27,005 --> 00:41:29,565
should see people serving from the church in

1175
00:41:29,565 --> 00:41:32,125
the community doing that outreach and telling people

1176
00:41:32,125 --> 00:41:34,309
about Christ. You see a big stark contrast

1177
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:35,910
in that too. You see some churches that

1178
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:37,349
don't do a thing. Yeah. You know, just

1179
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:38,949
close in on themselves and have a million

1180
00:41:38,949 --> 00:41:40,150
dollars in the bank. I see it. I

1181
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:42,489
know. Right. And then other churches that that

1182
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:45,269
just do everything outside and then it is

1183
00:41:45,269 --> 00:41:47,289
to have no script There's nothing inside.

1184
00:41:47,724 --> 00:41:49,324
Yeah. You know? Because you can get too

1185
00:41:49,324 --> 00:41:51,484
scattered, can't you? Yeah. You really can. And

1186
00:41:51,484 --> 00:41:52,605
and it's good for

1187
00:41:52,925 --> 00:41:54,125
like, I look at a lot of churches.

1188
00:41:54,125 --> 00:41:55,405
I'm like, man, I wish I had thought

1189
00:41:55,405 --> 00:41:56,944
of that. We could do that. You know?

1190
00:41:57,085 --> 00:41:59,724
But, I mean, they they they there's a

1191
00:41:59,724 --> 00:42:01,804
few things. I've always said, look. You can

1192
00:42:01,804 --> 00:42:04,030
be really good at one thing. You can

1193
00:42:04,030 --> 00:42:05,869
be good at two things. When you you

1194
00:42:05,869 --> 00:42:08,530
know, sometimes three, four, five, 10 things.

1195
00:42:09,069 --> 00:42:10,989
If you don't have the people to staff

1196
00:42:10,989 --> 00:42:12,429
it and to do it, then you can

1197
00:42:12,429 --> 00:42:14,295
you can really get scattered in it. But

1198
00:42:14,295 --> 00:42:16,714
that was my next thing, opportunities to grow.

1199
00:42:16,775 --> 00:42:18,554
You wanna look for a church

1200
00:42:19,174 --> 00:42:21,114
that that you have a

1201
00:42:22,295 --> 00:42:23,034
an opportunity

1202
00:42:23,335 --> 00:42:25,494
to grow in that church, to find something

1203
00:42:25,494 --> 00:42:27,815
that that you're not just sitting on the

1204
00:42:27,815 --> 00:42:28,315
pew

1205
00:42:28,690 --> 00:42:31,090
every Sunday. Right? That you because I'll tell

1206
00:42:31,090 --> 00:42:31,750
you something,

1207
00:42:32,130 --> 00:42:33,730
and and that was part of the whole

1208
00:42:33,730 --> 00:42:35,750
plugged in Sunday thing that we had.

1209
00:42:37,489 --> 00:42:39,170
I I've known people to go to the

1210
00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:41,510
same church for years and never

1211
00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:43,269
never be connected.

1212
00:42:43,704 --> 00:42:45,625
Right now and right now. This may step

1213
00:42:45,625 --> 00:42:47,944
on some toes too. But right now, y'all

1214
00:42:47,944 --> 00:42:48,924
are more connected

1215
00:42:49,304 --> 00:42:51,304
than people who than some people who've been

1216
00:42:51,304 --> 00:42:53,385
going here for twenty five years. I mean,

1217
00:42:53,385 --> 00:42:55,464
it's just the truth. Right? I mean and

1218
00:42:55,464 --> 00:42:57,304
and it's not because they didn't have an

1219
00:42:57,304 --> 00:43:00,079
opportunity to. It's just they're they're satisfied

1220
00:43:00,539 --> 00:43:03,259
with with being where they are and sitting

1221
00:43:03,259 --> 00:43:05,500
where they are and and coming in and

1222
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:07,819
and leaving it and going out. It's really

1223
00:43:07,819 --> 00:43:08,319
why

1224
00:43:08,859 --> 00:43:10,400
and this is not a,

1225
00:43:10,940 --> 00:43:11,819
this is not a,

1226
00:43:12,619 --> 00:43:13,440
a kick towards

1227
00:43:13,875 --> 00:43:15,255
towards large churches,

1228
00:43:15,954 --> 00:43:18,675
because, man, there's there's some great ones out

1229
00:43:18,675 --> 00:43:20,594
there. Right? I mean, they were there really

1230
00:43:20,594 --> 00:43:22,514
is. But it's why a lot of people

1231
00:43:22,514 --> 00:43:25,875
will go to a really big church Mhmm.

1232
00:43:25,875 --> 00:43:28,289
Yeah. So they can blend in. Right? They

1233
00:43:28,289 --> 00:43:30,530
can walk in, walk out. Nobody says anything

1234
00:43:30,530 --> 00:43:32,070
to them. They they can just

1235
00:43:32,530 --> 00:43:34,530
check church off their list for that week,

1236
00:43:34,530 --> 00:43:35,910
and they never get connected.

1237
00:43:36,610 --> 00:43:37,110
Yeah.

1238
00:43:37,489 --> 00:43:39,250
So Yeah. You're missing out on so much

1239
00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:40,769
too. You know, it's it's more than just

1240
00:43:40,769 --> 00:43:43,430
worship and hearing a sermon. Yeah. It's more

1241
00:43:43,545 --> 00:43:45,704
it's a community. Yeah. It's just community of

1242
00:43:45,704 --> 00:43:48,045
like minded people who build each other up.

1243
00:43:48,184 --> 00:43:49,724
When my dad passed away,

1244
00:43:50,824 --> 00:43:52,424
and I'm sure you felt that too. But

1245
00:43:52,424 --> 00:43:53,885
when my dad passed away,

1246
00:43:54,505 --> 00:43:56,525
we I had I had been here

1247
00:43:57,625 --> 00:43:58,284
a year

1248
00:43:58,730 --> 00:44:01,130
when dad passed away. I've been pastoring here

1249
00:44:01,130 --> 00:44:02,909
a year. Our our church,

1250
00:44:03,449 --> 00:44:05,309
on Lookout Mountain Union Hill,

1251
00:44:06,329 --> 00:44:08,569
I mean, I I had two churches that

1252
00:44:08,569 --> 00:44:10,730
really just rallied around us, and and my

1253
00:44:10,730 --> 00:44:13,215
mom's church too at Mount Carmel. But, but

1254
00:44:13,215 --> 00:44:15,535
those two churches just really we they were

1255
00:44:15,695 --> 00:44:16,595
they came and

1256
00:44:16,974 --> 00:44:18,595
sang, from Union Hill,

1257
00:44:19,055 --> 00:44:21,215
and and then our church just rallied around

1258
00:44:21,215 --> 00:44:23,454
us and fixed food. And, I mean, you

1259
00:44:23,454 --> 00:44:25,454
know, it was a big it was a

1260
00:44:25,454 --> 00:44:28,010
big thing that we had our church family

1261
00:44:28,010 --> 00:44:29,690
there going through one of the hardest times

1262
00:44:29,690 --> 00:44:30,510
of our life.

1263
00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,210
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It means a lot. It

1264
00:44:33,210 --> 00:44:34,190
means a lot. It does.

1265
00:44:35,210 --> 00:44:36,989
So so what are what are some things

1266
00:44:37,929 --> 00:44:39,014
to look out for,

1267
00:44:39,974 --> 00:44:41,835
to be aware of or or,

1268
00:44:42,375 --> 00:44:44,534
hazards in in in your church to to

1269
00:44:44,534 --> 00:44:45,594
watch out for?

1270
00:44:47,094 --> 00:44:48,534
I I think of stuff like,

1271
00:44:49,255 --> 00:44:51,434
maybe somebody starts sharing a horoscope

1272
00:44:51,734 --> 00:44:54,789
around church or Yeah. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

1273
00:44:54,789 --> 00:44:57,829
Yeah. And this stuff's, Deuteronomy gives us some

1274
00:44:57,829 --> 00:45:00,170
some pretty strict warnings. Right? It didn't,

1275
00:45:01,429 --> 00:45:03,190
Deuteronomy chapter 10 is

1276
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:06,309
and this stuff is in the old kinda

1277
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:08,485
language, but the you put it into the

1278
00:45:08,485 --> 00:45:10,644
present day and there's some some of this

1279
00:45:10,644 --> 00:45:12,565
stuff going on. He said, there shall not

1280
00:45:12,565 --> 00:45:14,324
be found among you anyone who makes his

1281
00:45:14,324 --> 00:45:16,264
son or daughter pass through the fire,

1282
00:45:16,724 --> 00:45:17,945
one who uses divination,

1283
00:45:18,485 --> 00:45:21,144
one who practices witchcraft or one who interprets

1284
00:45:21,605 --> 00:45:23,099
omens or a sorcerer

1285
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,000
or one who casts a spell or a

1286
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,159
medium or a spiritist or one who calls

1287
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:29,719
up the dead. Yeah. And that stuff sounds

1288
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,139
old fashioned. Like, nobody does that stuff anymore.

1289
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,780
But the modern versions of that stuff

1290
00:45:35,755 --> 00:45:37,594
is is still here. It really is. Mhmm.

1291
00:45:37,594 --> 00:45:39,614
Yeah. I'm and, like, my generation,

1292
00:45:39,994 --> 00:45:41,775
I know, like, I guess,

1293
00:45:42,074 --> 00:45:43,914
the main the thing is, what's your star

1294
00:45:43,914 --> 00:45:44,414
sign?

1295
00:45:44,875 --> 00:45:46,949
Like Yeah. I love what's your star sign.

1296
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:49,269
Like, because that tells you everything about you.

1297
00:45:49,269 --> 00:45:51,609
Yeah. Yeah. I was a red headed Scorpio.

1298
00:45:53,909 --> 00:45:55,429
Yeah. So, I mean I mean, I would

1299
00:45:55,429 --> 00:45:57,510
see that. I would look on, like or

1300
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:59,589
I would, like, see what I am, and

1301
00:45:59,589 --> 00:46:01,674
it would not describe me one bit. Yeah.

1302
00:46:01,674 --> 00:46:03,514
And I'm like, why in the world are

1303
00:46:03,514 --> 00:46:04,014
people

1304
00:46:04,554 --> 00:46:05,614
trying to conform

1305
00:46:06,394 --> 00:46:08,554
to these faiths? It does shape you, doesn't

1306
00:46:08,554 --> 00:46:10,974
it? It shapes you. And it really shocks.

1307
00:46:11,114 --> 00:46:12,795
Not only does it shape you, but it

1308
00:46:12,795 --> 00:46:15,514
shocks me when I see church people falling

1309
00:46:15,514 --> 00:46:16,815
into those things. Right?

1310
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,019
Yeah. And and and, I mean,

1311
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:21,799
you start talking to them, they're like, yeah.

1312
00:46:21,799 --> 00:46:23,559
Well, I'll do this or I'll do that

1313
00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:25,319
or I'll dabble in this and dabble in

1314
00:46:25,319 --> 00:46:26,219
that. And you're like,

1315
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:27,099
really?

1316
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,159
Really? And you've been listening to me preach

1317
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:30,599
for the last five years, and you still

1318
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:32,219
do that. And then you Yeah.

1319
00:46:32,545 --> 00:46:35,125
But yeah. But, you know, and I think

1320
00:46:35,264 --> 00:46:37,364
that that there are things that we

1321
00:46:38,385 --> 00:46:40,644
that we have to watch out for that

1322
00:46:41,264 --> 00:46:43,505
you may join and may be a part

1323
00:46:43,505 --> 00:46:44,965
of a really good church.

1324
00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:50,440
And and something starts turning. Right? Something starts

1325
00:46:50,820 --> 00:46:52,440
changing. Something starts

1326
00:46:52,820 --> 00:46:54,660
moving away from the word of God or

1327
00:46:54,660 --> 00:46:56,840
moving away, you know, moving away from scripture,

1328
00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:57,780
moving away from,

1329
00:46:59,324 --> 00:47:01,164
from the love that we should show and

1330
00:47:01,164 --> 00:47:03,405
and and the community that we should have

1331
00:47:03,405 --> 00:47:04,144
and the,

1332
00:47:04,764 --> 00:47:05,984
the the mission,

1333
00:47:06,684 --> 00:47:08,364
that that we have set forth for our

1334
00:47:08,364 --> 00:47:10,364
church when that thing you know, it can

1335
00:47:10,364 --> 00:47:12,809
go it can go haywire if you're not

1336
00:47:12,809 --> 00:47:14,809
careful. One of the things that you can

1337
00:47:14,809 --> 00:47:16,970
do, you know, we mentioned these things that

1338
00:47:16,970 --> 00:47:19,530
are so overt and they're so obvious with

1339
00:47:19,530 --> 00:47:22,489
the the astrology and the witchcraft and all

1340
00:47:22,489 --> 00:47:23,849
all these things and the, you know, and

1341
00:47:23,849 --> 00:47:25,864
the horoscopes and the fortune telling and I

1342
00:47:25,864 --> 00:47:27,945
mean goodness, somebody starts doing that stuff it

1343
00:47:27,945 --> 00:47:29,244
becomes fairly obvious.

1344
00:47:29,704 --> 00:47:31,464
I think it's kind of hard for that

1345
00:47:31,464 --> 00:47:33,864
to be, you know, completely secret unless they're

1346
00:47:33,864 --> 00:47:36,025
actively trying to keep it secret. But I

1347
00:47:36,025 --> 00:47:37,945
think one of the things we don't think

1348
00:47:37,945 --> 00:47:38,445
about

1349
00:47:39,989 --> 00:47:40,489
is

1350
00:47:40,869 --> 00:47:43,269
you need to pay attention when you're involved

1351
00:47:43,269 --> 00:47:45,030
with the church, when you're in there all

1352
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:46,409
the time, you're seeing the people,

1353
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:48,489
what are they talking about?

1354
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:51,989
Right? What discussions are happening? When you're sitting

1355
00:47:51,989 --> 00:47:53,849
around and you go out and you have

1356
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:54,890
a lunch,

1357
00:47:55,375 --> 00:47:56,914
what's everybody sitting around talking about? Now,

1358
00:47:57,614 --> 00:48:00,015
you're gonna hear pretty much every church going,

1359
00:48:00,015 --> 00:48:01,535
you're gonna hear people sit and they're gonna

1360
00:48:01,535 --> 00:48:03,454
talk about their families. They're gonna talk about

1361
00:48:03,454 --> 00:48:04,815
how things are going and that's good. We

1362
00:48:04,815 --> 00:48:07,215
won't focus on family. We absolutely talk about

1363
00:48:07,215 --> 00:48:08,994
each other. They're gonna talk about each other.

1364
00:48:09,215 --> 00:48:09,715
Yeah.

1365
00:48:10,030 --> 00:48:12,670
And and sometimes it's gossip, you know, maybe

1366
00:48:12,670 --> 00:48:15,410
maybe watch that. But sometimes it's it's legitimately

1367
00:48:15,470 --> 00:48:16,590
just talking about, hey, did you hear so

1368
00:48:16,590 --> 00:48:18,269
and so was doing this and that? And

1369
00:48:18,269 --> 00:48:20,670
it's proud stuff. And those are all great

1370
00:48:20,670 --> 00:48:21,170
things.

1371
00:48:22,125 --> 00:48:23,644
But when you start sitting around, they start

1372
00:48:23,644 --> 00:48:25,965
talking about, hey, did you watch the did

1373
00:48:25,965 --> 00:48:27,644
you watch the newest episode of American Horror

1374
00:48:27,644 --> 00:48:28,144
Story?

1375
00:48:28,684 --> 00:48:30,125
Mhmm. Hey, did you watch that new that

1376
00:48:30,125 --> 00:48:31,644
new sci fi show? You know, it's got

1377
00:48:31,644 --> 00:48:33,244
got this in it and that and it's

1378
00:48:33,244 --> 00:48:35,420
all about that. What are they sitting around

1379
00:48:35,420 --> 00:48:37,900
and talking about? Where is that focus? Because

1380
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:38,719
those areas

1381
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:41,819
are a quick way that you end up

1382
00:48:41,819 --> 00:48:42,719
going down

1383
00:48:43,019 --> 00:48:45,579
that path. Not and it's it's not an

1384
00:48:45,579 --> 00:48:47,275
overt thing. Like I say, it's a very

1385
00:48:47,275 --> 00:48:50,414
it's a very slow, very subversive thing

1386
00:48:50,795 --> 00:48:51,295
that

1387
00:48:51,755 --> 00:48:53,594
people can get way off the path and

1388
00:48:53,594 --> 00:48:55,594
then go, Oh, how'd I get here? Yeah.

1389
00:48:55,594 --> 00:48:57,195
And it's like, well, it started because you

1390
00:48:57,195 --> 00:48:58,255
weren't paying attention.

1391
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,359
Satan's over here trying to get your attention.

1392
00:49:00,359 --> 00:49:02,359
He's I mean, these these movies exist for

1393
00:49:02,359 --> 00:49:04,599
a reason. Entertainment. Yeah. It's fun. It's just

1394
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,400
entertaining. It's fun. Those demons out there, you

1395
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,480
know, doing things and and look, the the

1396
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,559
hero's fighting them and winning. And it's like,

1397
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:13,079
oh, great. What they oh, yeah. They cast

1398
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:14,664
a magic spell to beat the yeah. Why

1399
00:49:14,664 --> 00:49:16,904
are we watching this? Yeah. I'll tell you

1400
00:49:16,904 --> 00:49:19,304
one, man. Is, in the Greek, there's a

1401
00:49:19,304 --> 00:49:20,284
word called pharmakeia.

1402
00:49:20,744 --> 00:49:23,404
Mhmm. And it's translated as witchcraft.

1403
00:49:23,864 --> 00:49:25,625
Yeah. Well, it's also the word we get

1404
00:49:25,625 --> 00:49:29,400
pharmacy from. Mhmm. Drugs. Yeah. That's right. Sorcery,

1405
00:49:29,539 --> 00:49:32,579
witchcraft, that old sounding words, that stuff's around.

1406
00:49:32,579 --> 00:49:35,219
Yeah. Amen. And how many church people are

1407
00:49:35,219 --> 00:49:35,719
are

1408
00:49:36,019 --> 00:49:38,199
abusing drugs? Yeah. Yeah.

1409
00:49:38,579 --> 00:49:40,420
You know, drugs, alcohol? There's a lot of

1410
00:49:40,420 --> 00:49:42,405
things that we don't know and don't see,

1411
00:49:42,565 --> 00:49:44,644
You know? And Yeah. And I mean, you

1412
00:49:44,644 --> 00:49:46,164
know, those are things that we need to

1413
00:49:46,164 --> 00:49:48,344
be praying for that they'll that they will,

1414
00:49:49,364 --> 00:49:50,965
that they'll come out of that. Right? That

1415
00:49:50,965 --> 00:49:53,045
they'll repent from that and turn from that

1416
00:49:53,045 --> 00:49:54,885
and and get and if they need help,

1417
00:49:54,885 --> 00:49:55,545
get help

1418
00:49:55,844 --> 00:49:57,780
from it. Right? I'm not saying, you know,

1419
00:49:57,940 --> 00:50:00,099
don't get help or don't don't don't do

1420
00:50:00,099 --> 00:50:01,559
what you need to do to

1421
00:50:02,340 --> 00:50:04,579
to keep you from those things. But, but,

1422
00:50:04,579 --> 00:50:06,920
yeah, those those are things that can really

1423
00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:08,039
that can derail,

1424
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:09,780
a

1425
00:50:10,099 --> 00:50:12,784
derail a whole church. Absolutely. Absolutely. Little leaven.

1426
00:50:12,784 --> 00:50:14,005
Right? Mhmm. Yeah.

1427
00:50:14,704 --> 00:50:16,625
Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's like I say,

1428
00:50:16,625 --> 00:50:18,224
just just pay attention. When you're having those

1429
00:50:18,224 --> 00:50:20,385
lunches, when you're talking with people, just just

1430
00:50:20,385 --> 00:50:22,545
keep your ears perked up and listen to

1431
00:50:22,545 --> 00:50:25,105
what's being talked about because and and and

1432
00:50:25,105 --> 00:50:25,844
know enough

1433
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,800
to at least be able to go look

1434
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,239
up what they're talking about so you can

1435
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,559
find out. And that doesn't mean go you

1436
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:33,480
don't have to go diving into it. Yeah.

1437
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:33,980
Especially

1438
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:36,440
for church leadership, you do not have to

1439
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,380
go diving down and watch every episode

1440
00:50:38,945 --> 00:50:40,945
of The Vampire Diaries to know what it's

1441
00:50:40,945 --> 00:50:43,445
about. No. There are 5,000

1442
00:50:43,905 --> 00:50:44,405
synopses

1443
00:50:45,184 --> 00:50:47,344
of this on YouTube of people talking about

1444
00:50:47,344 --> 00:50:48,784
it that break the whole showdown and explain

1445
00:50:48,784 --> 00:50:50,465
it. You can find it out in twenty

1446
00:50:50,465 --> 00:50:52,469
minutes. Sound like a Hallmark movie. It's just

1447
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:54,409
over and over. Cyclops, YouTube.

1448
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:56,570
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

1449
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:59,190
Let me say this too and here's one

1450
00:50:59,190 --> 00:51:01,190
that we don't think about a lot of

1451
00:51:01,190 --> 00:51:02,170
times and

1452
00:51:03,909 --> 00:51:06,630
and look for a church where they are

1453
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:08,090
like minded, okay?

1454
00:51:09,085 --> 00:51:10,765
Look for a church where they're like minded.

1455
00:51:10,925 --> 00:51:12,625
But and when I say like minded,

1456
00:51:13,565 --> 00:51:14,704
they they believe

1457
00:51:15,405 --> 00:51:18,045
the word of God. Right? They believe that

1458
00:51:18,125 --> 00:51:20,204
they believe in true doctrine and you line

1459
00:51:20,204 --> 00:51:21,965
up with that doctrine and those things they

1460
00:51:21,965 --> 00:51:22,465
believe.

1461
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:24,280
But do not

1462
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:25,960
look for a church

1463
00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:28,440
with people just like you.

1464
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:30,359
Yeah. Yeah.

1465
00:51:32,019 --> 00:51:34,260
I mean, I think churches should be not

1466
00:51:34,260 --> 00:51:36,340
in their doctrine. We shouldn't be diverse in

1467
00:51:36,340 --> 00:51:38,565
doctrine, but we should be diverse in people.

1468
00:51:38,565 --> 00:51:40,724
Right? Right. There should be people from all

1469
00:51:40,724 --> 00:51:42,905
walks of life. There should be people from,

1470
00:51:43,444 --> 00:51:45,464
you know, all different income

1471
00:51:45,764 --> 00:51:47,364
levels and places. There should be,

1472
00:51:48,724 --> 00:51:50,804
you know, there there should I I believe

1473
00:51:50,804 --> 00:51:53,444
that that there should people of color should

1474
00:51:53,444 --> 00:51:55,519
be able to to all come together

1475
00:51:55,820 --> 00:51:58,059
and to worship together. Yeah. And so that's

1476
00:51:58,059 --> 00:52:00,140
why I'm saying don't sit there and look.

1477
00:52:00,140 --> 00:52:02,699
Okay. Those people are just like me. They're

1478
00:52:02,699 --> 00:52:04,619
in the they're in the same income bracket

1479
00:52:04,619 --> 00:52:06,140
as I am. They live in the same

1480
00:52:06,140 --> 00:52:07,599
type of house as I do.

1481
00:52:07,925 --> 00:52:09,764
They they have the same type of work

1482
00:52:09,764 --> 00:52:11,304
or jobs that I do.

1483
00:52:11,925 --> 00:52:13,605
I mean, you're just what are you doing?

1484
00:52:13,605 --> 00:52:15,844
I mean, that's not diverse. That's boring, really.

1485
00:52:15,844 --> 00:52:17,764
You're not Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what

1486
00:52:17,764 --> 00:52:18,264
Jesus

1487
00:52:19,045 --> 00:52:21,309
died for. It's so Yeah. The Jew and

1488
00:52:21,309 --> 00:52:23,550
the Gentile can be together to where the

1489
00:52:23,550 --> 00:52:26,190
poor and the rich can be together, whether

1490
00:52:26,190 --> 00:52:26,929
the slave

1491
00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:29,630
and the I I guess, the slave and

1492
00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:30,109
the,

1493
00:52:30,589 --> 00:52:33,170
Master. Master would be, together.

1494
00:52:33,714 --> 00:52:36,034
So breaking those barriers to where walls of

1495
00:52:36,034 --> 00:52:38,775
partition. Yeah. We're all one in Christ. Exactly.

1496
00:52:38,914 --> 00:52:41,394
That's right. And and recognizing that you're all

1497
00:52:41,394 --> 00:52:43,635
brothers and sisters together like that. And it's

1498
00:52:43,635 --> 00:52:45,394
it's it's one of those core things. It's

1499
00:52:45,554 --> 00:52:47,155
if you don't believe that you're brothers and

1500
00:52:47,155 --> 00:52:48,755
sisters with everybody else who is saved

1501
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,640
what do you believe? That's true. That's one

1502
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,079
of the really helpful things that we used

1503
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:54,840
to, read in, when I was in the

1504
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,880
Methodist church was the Apostle's Creed. Yeah. And

1505
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,719
it would remind you every Sunday. It got

1506
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,065
to be just just routine. People just repeat

1507
00:53:02,065 --> 00:53:03,985
it without thinking about it. But at least

1508
00:53:03,985 --> 00:53:05,824
it laid out the framework of of like

1509
00:53:05,824 --> 00:53:08,385
core doctrine. Yeah. Right? There's trinity, father, son,

1510
00:53:08,385 --> 00:53:10,144
holy spirit, and certain things about each one

1511
00:53:10,144 --> 00:53:12,065
of them. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's neat

1512
00:53:12,065 --> 00:53:12,804
to see.

1513
00:53:13,184 --> 00:53:14,789
I don't I don't miss

1514
00:53:15,089 --> 00:53:15,589
it

1515
00:53:16,769 --> 00:53:18,849
really because it just feels like a blah,

1516
00:53:18,849 --> 00:53:19,829
blah, blah,

1517
00:53:20,130 --> 00:53:21,969
blah, blah, blah. But the content of it.

1518
00:53:21,969 --> 00:53:23,329
The content of it was good, and it

1519
00:53:23,329 --> 00:53:25,089
reminded people. If you'd never seen it before,

1520
00:53:25,089 --> 00:53:27,574
it's like, okay. That makes sense. Amen. And

1521
00:53:27,574 --> 00:53:29,594
that goes back to, like, tradition.

1522
00:53:30,295 --> 00:53:32,554
And, like, I know churches can be,

1523
00:53:32,855 --> 00:53:34,375
when and whenever you're looking for a church,

1524
00:53:34,375 --> 00:53:36,775
tradition is not always bad. No. No. There's

1525
00:53:36,775 --> 00:53:39,255
there's there's good tradition. And there are good

1526
00:53:39,255 --> 00:53:41,194
traditions, and the

1527
00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:43,630
reasoning for that tradition or the meaning behind

1528
00:53:43,630 --> 00:53:45,949
that traditions are good. Yeah. But it's whenever

1529
00:53:45,949 --> 00:53:48,430
we lose the meaning of the tradition. Yeah.

1530
00:53:48,430 --> 00:53:50,110
Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of people don't

1531
00:53:50,110 --> 00:53:52,110
feel like they've worshiped unless they've done certain

1532
00:53:52,110 --> 00:53:54,430
things throughout the service. Right? Yeah. For whatever

1533
00:53:54,430 --> 00:53:56,510
reason. And I don't I don't personally, I

1534
00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:58,914
don't like it. Yeah. That litany of things

1535
00:53:58,914 --> 00:54:00,474
that you do go through. Right. It just

1536
00:54:00,675 --> 00:54:02,434
it gets to be just a habit or

1537
00:54:02,434 --> 00:54:03,815
a reason to do that. Yeah.

1538
00:54:04,594 --> 00:54:06,195
But a lot of people really appreciate that

1539
00:54:06,195 --> 00:54:08,675
kind of stuff. Yeah. I don't understand it.

1540
00:54:08,675 --> 00:54:09,954
I don't either. I don't mean

1541
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:11,420
I think, man,

1542
00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:13,400
when we get to heaven, no day is

1543
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,159
gonna be the same. Right? No. I I

1544
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:16,920
I mean, I think God's gonna be showing

1545
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,859
us stuff for for the next

1546
00:54:19,319 --> 00:54:21,480
billions and billions and billions of years. I

1547
00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:22,925
well, I didn't know he's gonna do that

1548
00:54:22,925 --> 00:54:24,764
today yet. It's just a whole brand new

1549
00:54:24,764 --> 00:54:26,844
stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And you're gonna have to

1550
00:54:26,844 --> 00:54:29,085
worship with all kind of different people, you

1551
00:54:29,085 --> 00:54:31,804
know. People from all walks of life are

1552
00:54:31,804 --> 00:54:34,545
gonna be in heaven. Right? Elbowany church. Yeah.

1553
00:54:34,605 --> 00:54:35,744
Yeah. Yeah.

1554
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:37,380
Yeah.

1555
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,239
But Peter said, just be quiet when we

1556
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,639
walk around the corner out here. Yeah. Those

1557
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:44,800
people don't know that anybody else is here.

1558
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,739
Waiting to get the candles lit. Yeah.

1559
00:54:48,159 --> 00:54:49,440
I was gonna make it a church of

1560
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,900
Christ joke, but I well, I'm not.

1561
00:54:56,425 --> 00:54:58,844
But no. But, you know, we we

1562
00:54:59,465 --> 00:55:01,785
we gonna worship with everybody in heaven. Right?

1563
00:55:01,785 --> 00:55:03,465
And and so why not be able to

1564
00:55:03,465 --> 00:55:05,005
do it here? Like I said,

1565
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,619
find a church that that is doctrinally safe,

1566
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:11,319
and everybody believes the same as far as

1567
00:55:11,319 --> 00:55:14,039
the word of God is concerned, but not

1568
00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:15,099
a church where

1569
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,199
everybody's the same. Right? There's no cultural difference.

1570
00:55:18,199 --> 00:55:20,119
There's no hey. I got to I got

1571
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:20,280
to,

1572
00:55:21,155 --> 00:55:22,855
we went to, to Nashville.

1573
00:55:24,234 --> 00:55:24,734
I've

1574
00:55:25,315 --> 00:55:26,914
I've told this before on here, I think,

1575
00:55:26,914 --> 00:55:27,734
but we met,

1576
00:55:28,195 --> 00:55:29,474
Kyusei, which was,

1577
00:55:30,114 --> 00:55:31,635
the young man that we got to witness

1578
00:55:31,635 --> 00:55:33,155
to and came home with us, you know,

1579
00:55:33,155 --> 00:55:35,474
before and and, he's come to church with

1580
00:55:35,474 --> 00:55:36,730
us. But one of the things I got

1581
00:55:36,730 --> 00:55:38,250
to do while we're there, this is one

1582
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:39,950
of the most culturally culturally

1583
00:55:40,730 --> 00:55:43,530
diverse areas in Nashville that I've ever been

1584
00:55:43,530 --> 00:55:44,730
in my life. And one of the neat

1585
00:55:44,730 --> 00:55:46,489
things I got to do while I was

1586
00:55:46,489 --> 00:55:48,829
there is is to preach in the Ethiopian

1587
00:55:48,970 --> 00:55:49,869
Christian church.

1588
00:55:50,684 --> 00:55:51,085
And,

1589
00:55:51,485 --> 00:55:53,565
and with a translator. And so that was

1590
00:55:53,565 --> 00:55:55,644
so cool. Yeah. And and, hey, they get

1591
00:55:55,644 --> 00:55:56,545
down with it.

1592
00:55:57,644 --> 00:55:59,985
There's some of them little them little Ethiopian

1593
00:56:00,045 --> 00:56:00,864
ladies there.

1594
00:56:02,285 --> 00:56:04,864
Yeah. I'm gonna learn how to do that.

1595
00:56:05,539 --> 00:56:08,280
Yeah. I'm gonna do that. Preach all? Yeah.

1596
00:56:08,619 --> 00:56:09,119
I'm

1597
00:56:09,460 --> 00:56:11,159
hoping for amens. Yeah.

1598
00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:14,420
I'll take it. I'll sometimes I don't even

1599
00:56:14,420 --> 00:56:15,800
get a amen. I'll take it.

1600
00:56:16,099 --> 00:56:16,599
Yeah.

1601
00:56:19,775 --> 00:56:21,214
Oh, man. You'd freak out if I did

1602
00:56:21,214 --> 00:56:22,194
that Sunday morning.

1603
00:56:23,295 --> 00:56:25,554
No. No. No. That would even matter. Yeah.

1604
00:56:25,694 --> 00:56:28,414
I'll thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

1605
00:56:28,414 --> 00:56:28,914
you.

1606
00:56:32,180 --> 00:56:34,340
Man, and if you haven't ever been in

1607
00:56:34,340 --> 00:56:36,820
in, some services with some of these some

1608
00:56:36,820 --> 00:56:38,980
of these other groups that you're in here

1609
00:56:38,980 --> 00:56:41,700
at. I mean, seriously. I mean, some of

1610
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:43,619
these other churches, you you go into some

1611
00:56:43,619 --> 00:56:45,539
of those services. I've gotten to see several,

1612
00:56:45,780 --> 00:56:46,519
we've had,

1613
00:56:48,494 --> 00:56:48,994
missionaries

1614
00:56:49,375 --> 00:56:51,134
that would would come in Yeah. From some

1615
00:56:51,134 --> 00:56:52,414
of these places and they come in and

1616
00:56:52,414 --> 00:56:54,355
they start they start doing their church services.

1617
00:56:54,655 --> 00:56:57,074
And if they bring anybody with them,

1618
00:56:57,454 --> 00:56:59,375
man, those church services can turn into some

1619
00:56:59,375 --> 00:57:01,260
really interesting things. I'm like, never seen anybody

1620
00:57:01,260 --> 00:57:03,519
do that in church before. Yeah. Yeah.

1621
00:57:05,260 --> 00:57:07,420
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not maybe not everybody worships

1622
00:57:07,420 --> 00:57:09,840
like you, but if it's biblical Right. Right.

1623
00:57:10,059 --> 00:57:11,360
And not like I said earlier,

1624
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:13,900
this church in particular just kinda runs the

1625
00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:15,980
gamut from people that are solemn to people

1626
00:57:15,980 --> 00:57:17,954
that are, hey. Sure. Yeah. Let's get let's

1627
00:57:17,954 --> 00:57:19,954
get crazy. That's it. I mean We don't

1628
00:57:19,954 --> 00:57:22,034
have anybody running aisles and jumping into baptismal

1629
00:57:22,034 --> 00:57:23,474
or anything. Well, we had no. We hadn't

1630
00:57:23,474 --> 00:57:25,474
had anybody jumping. I have seen some running,

1631
00:57:25,474 --> 00:57:26,614
but I have not seen

1632
00:57:27,074 --> 00:57:27,734
no baptismal

1633
00:57:28,034 --> 00:57:30,755
jumping. No. Yeah. Yeah. All y'all came along

1634
00:57:30,755 --> 00:57:31,255
after,

1635
00:57:32,349 --> 00:57:34,349
Yeah. All y'all came along, you know, a

1636
00:57:34,349 --> 00:57:35,789
a bit a bit later. You know, I

1637
00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:37,630
grew up here. I've been here forty years

1638
00:57:37,630 --> 00:57:38,130
and

1639
00:57:38,829 --> 00:57:40,510
I I have actually seen people run our

1640
00:57:40,510 --> 00:57:42,989
aisles. Yeah. And I have seen people jump

1641
00:57:42,989 --> 00:57:44,530
over benches and and

1642
00:57:44,914 --> 00:57:47,155
walk the sea. I've seen a man walk

1643
00:57:47,155 --> 00:57:49,474
literally the tops of the the fuse.

1644
00:57:50,355 --> 00:57:51,954
He just he got excited and he couldn't

1645
00:57:51,954 --> 00:57:53,155
get to the front of the church fast

1646
00:57:53,155 --> 00:57:54,454
enough. He just stood up

1647
00:57:54,914 --> 00:57:56,514
right across the tops of the fuse. And

1648
00:57:56,514 --> 00:57:57,715
I'm sitting there and that was the old

1649
00:57:57,715 --> 00:57:59,369
ones that were handmade. Yeah. So I was

1650
00:57:59,369 --> 00:58:00,969
sitting there the whole time thinking, he's about

1651
00:58:00,969 --> 00:58:02,109
to break his neck.

1652
00:58:02,409 --> 00:58:04,170
He's about to break somebody up. Yeah. I

1653
00:58:04,250 --> 00:58:06,489
no kidding. We had this humdinger of a

1654
00:58:06,489 --> 00:58:08,889
service one night, and I hit the top

1655
00:58:08,889 --> 00:58:11,049
of the p like big big and right

1656
00:58:11,049 --> 00:58:12,954
here. I hit the top of the p

1657
00:58:13,075 --> 00:58:14,414
and my kids were like,

1658
00:58:16,155 --> 00:58:18,795
what? How'd you do that? How'd you stand

1659
00:58:18,795 --> 00:58:20,094
up in the spirit?

1660
00:58:20,394 --> 00:58:21,295
No. I didn't.

1661
00:58:24,234 --> 00:58:26,440
You were saying, well, that's that's where how

1662
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:27,960
I know that God wasn't upset with me

1663
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,719
for doing it because he didn't have me

1664
00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:31,960
fall in my neck. He had that angel

1665
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,260
reach down and go, hold on.

1666
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,599
If God can lift me up, he can

1667
00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:37,340
lift anybody.

1668
00:58:41,105 --> 00:58:42,944
But seriously, like you say and I've I've

1669
00:58:42,944 --> 00:58:44,784
been in services here where we,

1670
00:58:45,105 --> 00:58:46,085
we've had people,

1671
00:58:46,385 --> 00:58:48,724
you know, go run the gamut from shouting

1672
00:58:49,424 --> 00:58:51,585
and some people, you know, raising their hands

1673
00:58:51,585 --> 00:58:53,344
and other people sitting there being just quiet

1674
00:58:53,344 --> 00:58:54,864
as a mouse and you're thinking, man, you

1675
00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:55,984
know, I don't I'm not sure if they

1676
00:58:55,984 --> 00:58:57,359
got anything out of it. It. Oh, yeah.

1677
00:58:57,359 --> 00:58:59,199
They did. Oh, I see. That was that

1678
00:58:59,199 --> 00:59:01,199
was their way of worshiping. They just got

1679
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:03,359
so full. They couldn't do anything. Yeah. And

1680
00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:05,199
it was just sitting there and be quiet

1681
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:07,920
and start praying. Yep. And I may and

1682
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,199
I do. I miss some of the older

1683
00:59:09,199 --> 00:59:10,724
folks we had that were just, you know,

1684
00:59:10,724 --> 00:59:12,405
they were old enough they didn't care anymore

1685
00:59:12,405 --> 00:59:13,925
what people thought about them, and they just

1686
00:59:13,925 --> 00:59:14,744
cut loose.

1687
00:59:15,204 --> 00:59:16,565
We had a couple we had an older

1688
00:59:16,565 --> 00:59:18,085
lady used to come in, and she'd get

1689
00:59:18,085 --> 00:59:20,164
to testify and get to talking. And and,

1690
00:59:20,164 --> 00:59:20,664
yeah,

1691
00:59:21,605 --> 00:59:23,204
I'm not gonna say she was speaking in

1692
00:59:23,204 --> 00:59:25,045
tongues because that would be going too far

1693
00:59:25,045 --> 00:59:26,184
for a Baptist church.

1694
00:59:26,869 --> 00:59:28,390
But it's the next it was about as

1695
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:29,590
close to it as you'd expect to see

1696
00:59:29,590 --> 00:59:31,430
in a Baptist church. I mean, she would

1697
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:32,570
get to talking, and

1698
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:34,390
nine times out of 10, we had no

1699
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:36,390
clue what she said. Yeah. Yeah. And she'd

1700
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:38,489
get halfway through it before we'd realize, oh,

1701
00:59:38,934 --> 00:59:41,275
actually she's actually testifying, we just can't understand.

1702
00:59:41,534 --> 00:59:44,135
She's from Georgia. Yeah. She hung her up.

1703
00:59:44,135 --> 00:59:46,214
Yeah. Yeah. She just, I mean, she just

1704
00:59:46,214 --> 00:59:48,394
gets a happy You couldn't understand. Yeah.

1705
00:59:48,934 --> 00:59:50,714
Couldn't understand what she was saying.

1706
00:59:51,414 --> 00:59:53,519
And I mean, you know, it was it

1707
00:59:53,519 --> 00:59:55,699
was a pretty incredible thing to see because,

1708
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,260
you know, and nobody ever ever

1709
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,880
got out. And I have actually seen people

1710
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,119
in churches before tell people sit down, be

1711
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:04,640
quiet when they start doing that because they

1712
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,034
just immediately jump to the assumption, that person

1713
01:00:07,034 --> 01:00:08,554
trying to speak in tongues they're doing this.

1714
01:00:08,554 --> 01:00:09,054
And

1715
01:00:09,714 --> 01:00:10,214
I

1716
01:00:10,875 --> 01:00:12,795
like I say forty years and I've never

1717
01:00:12,795 --> 01:00:14,474
seen a pastor tell somebody here to sit

1718
01:00:14,474 --> 01:00:16,954
down be quiet unless they were actually stepping

1719
01:00:16,954 --> 01:00:18,954
out and I have seen that happen before.

1720
01:00:18,954 --> 01:00:20,554
I was gonna say now there is some

1721
01:00:20,554 --> 01:00:23,139
some instances where you're gonna have somebody disrupt

1722
01:00:23,139 --> 01:00:25,380
the service with something that's not of God

1723
01:00:25,380 --> 01:00:27,300
and you got to do something then. You

1724
01:00:27,300 --> 01:00:28,980
get put in that position. But when it's

1725
01:00:28,980 --> 01:00:31,380
of God, I've never I've never seen anybody

1726
01:00:31,380 --> 01:00:33,380
here. Yeah. Be be told to sit down

1727
01:00:33,380 --> 01:00:34,199
and be quiet.

1728
01:00:34,820 --> 01:00:37,300
But but, But hey, here's the thing, you

1729
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:37,800
know,

1730
01:00:38,295 --> 01:00:40,214
there there's so many things that we need

1731
01:00:40,214 --> 01:00:41,894
to look at, but those those are the

1732
01:00:41,894 --> 01:00:43,655
main things are the are the main things,

1733
01:00:43,655 --> 01:00:46,135
right? I mean, looking for a church who

1734
01:00:46,135 --> 01:00:49,275
who's who's sound in doctrine, who who believes

1735
01:00:49,335 --> 01:00:51,974
that that Christ is is the one and

1736
01:00:51,974 --> 01:00:54,409
only son son of God, that he that

1737
01:00:54,409 --> 01:00:56,250
he died for our sins, that he that

1738
01:00:56,250 --> 01:00:58,250
he rose again in three days, he ascended

1739
01:00:58,250 --> 01:01:00,170
into heaven and sits to right hand of

1740
01:01:00,170 --> 01:01:02,190
the father making intercession for us,

1741
01:01:02,730 --> 01:01:05,684
that that that Mary was a virgin. Right?

1742
01:01:05,844 --> 01:01:06,565
And and,

1743
01:01:06,965 --> 01:01:09,045
and believes in the virgin birth and believes

1744
01:01:09,045 --> 01:01:11,305
in in in in in salvation

1745
01:01:12,005 --> 01:01:14,805
by faith through Jesus Christ. Right? By faith

1746
01:01:14,805 --> 01:01:16,265
alone and nothing of ourselves.

1747
01:01:17,204 --> 01:01:19,125
Those are the things that we cling to.

1748
01:01:19,125 --> 01:01:20,805
That those are the things that we have

1749
01:01:20,805 --> 01:01:23,989
to find a church that believes those things.

1750
01:01:25,010 --> 01:01:25,750
And then,

1751
01:01:26,530 --> 01:01:28,210
then you can start looking at the other

1752
01:01:28,210 --> 01:01:30,230
little things. Right? Then you can start looking.

1753
01:01:30,369 --> 01:01:32,369
Okay. They believe this. I I we got

1754
01:01:32,530 --> 01:01:34,450
because you gotta get the important things, the

1755
01:01:34,450 --> 01:01:36,295
really important things out of the way. And

1756
01:01:36,295 --> 01:01:38,474
those other things are important too, but but

1757
01:01:38,614 --> 01:01:40,934
look just if you're out there and you're

1758
01:01:40,934 --> 01:01:42,474
not looking for a church,

1759
01:01:42,934 --> 01:01:45,175
start looking. Yeah. Absolutely. That's the main thing.

1760
01:01:45,175 --> 01:01:47,094
Start looking. And you may have a few

1761
01:01:47,094 --> 01:01:48,855
bad apples before you get to some good

1762
01:01:48,855 --> 01:01:50,780
ones. Look at don't don't

1763
01:01:51,719 --> 01:01:53,320
expect people not to be people. I don't

1764
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,719
care what church you're in. You know? There's

1765
01:01:55,719 --> 01:01:57,320
gonna be some feelings hurt from time to

1766
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,579
time. There's gonna be some things happen, but

1767
01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:02,360
but, but when you find that church that

1768
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,724
that genuinely loves the lord and wants to

1769
01:02:04,724 --> 01:02:06,265
serve him and wants to,

1770
01:02:06,965 --> 01:02:08,744
rightly divide the word of truth,

1771
01:02:09,445 --> 01:02:11,045
And it's not just people that have fruit.

1772
01:02:11,045 --> 01:02:13,684
Right? Churches themselves as a body have not

1773
01:02:13,684 --> 01:02:15,765
fruit too. Just then check that out. See

1774
01:02:15,765 --> 01:02:17,925
how compassionate they are toward, you know, the

1775
01:02:17,925 --> 01:02:19,199
the the needy, the widows,

1776
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:21,440
the the poor. Yeah. When and and ask

1777
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,960
them, when's the last time y'all what kind

1778
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,480
of missions y'all do here? You know, when's

1779
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,760
the last time y'all went out and done

1780
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,480
something? When you what do you because you're

1781
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,639
exactly right. I could I could name some

1782
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:32,175
churches right now that have

1783
01:02:32,735 --> 01:02:34,894
a million dollars in a bank, and they're

1784
01:02:34,894 --> 01:02:37,535
sitting in a one room church house that

1785
01:02:37,535 --> 01:02:39,235
they hadn't done anything with

1786
01:02:40,255 --> 01:02:41,934
in a hundred and fifty years. Yeah. Yeah.

1787
01:02:41,934 --> 01:02:43,535
But they got their million dollars. Yeah. The

1788
01:02:43,535 --> 01:02:45,375
lord comes back. They're gonna stand before the

1789
01:02:45,375 --> 01:02:46,969
lord. Look, lord. I would bury it in

1790
01:02:46,969 --> 01:02:47,949
the ground. Yeah.

1791
01:02:48,409 --> 01:02:50,329
And see it. Yeah. That's it. I I

1792
01:02:50,329 --> 01:02:51,929
was actually about to make a reference to

1793
01:02:51,929 --> 01:02:54,010
the talent. I'm gonna be that's because that

1794
01:02:54,010 --> 01:02:56,130
is exactly what the sir that that Yeah.

1795
01:02:56,250 --> 01:02:58,989
What he called an evil Yeah. Servant. Yeah.

1796
01:02:59,049 --> 01:03:01,049
And I I think sometimes we forget about

1797
01:03:01,049 --> 01:03:03,074
that as Christians. Yeah. You know, we take

1798
01:03:03,074 --> 01:03:04,355
it and, well, God, I hung on to

1799
01:03:04,355 --> 01:03:04,855
it.

1800
01:03:05,155 --> 01:03:06,434
Yeah, but I gave it to you to

1801
01:03:06,434 --> 01:03:06,934
use.

1802
01:03:07,315 --> 01:03:07,815
Yeah.

1803
01:03:08,195 --> 01:03:09,715
I gave it to you to use to

1804
01:03:09,715 --> 01:03:10,914
to take care of the church. I gave

1805
01:03:10,914 --> 01:03:12,195
it to you to use to feed my

1806
01:03:12,195 --> 01:03:13,574
sheep. You're a steward.

1807
01:03:13,875 --> 01:03:15,554
And and who did he say his sheep

1808
01:03:15,554 --> 01:03:17,323
are and his lambs are? That's all the

1809
01:03:17,323 --> 01:03:17,849
people outside.

1810
01:03:18,550 --> 01:03:19,050
Yeah.

1811
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:23,750
Well, that pretty much wraps us up tonight

1812
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:27,269
and goodness, that was a good conversation. Man,

1813
01:03:27,269 --> 01:03:28,889
I I appreciate that.

1814
01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:30,809
That was that was very good.

1815
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:32,329
Brother Tanner,

1816
01:03:32,664 --> 01:03:34,605
will you dismiss us tonight? Yes, sir.

1817
01:03:35,384 --> 01:03:37,464
Lord, we love you and we're thankful for

1818
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today, Lord. We're thankful for

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allowing us to discuss

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an importance to find a good church, Lord,

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and to not only that, but, actually truly

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figure out who you are.

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Lord, I pray that you would just use

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this time and use this podcast, Lord, to

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glorify your name. And, Lord, if there's one

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lost, Lord, that doesn't know you, you don't

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know them, Lord, I pray that you would

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just convict hearts, Lord, to where they can

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find somewhere to,

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to go to, to where our church loves

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on them, Lord. Lord, I pray that you

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would just use this podcast to lead somebody

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to you. Lord, I pray that you would

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just put your hand of protection, Lord, as

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we leave this place. In Jesus' name, I

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pray. Amen.

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Special thank you to Carter Pridmore,

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Brian Harris, Waverly Henderson,

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Tatum Harris Spears, and Josie Partain for our

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theme song, Truth Set Me Free.

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I've been Tyler Goza on production and audio.

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We hope you can join us live next

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Monday at 6PM central.

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Thank you for listening.

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Me

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free.