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Speaker 3: So tonight we're going to continue with our study of Revelation.

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Speaker 3: And how are you feeling tonight, brother?

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Speaker 3: You think we're about ready to really dive into it?

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Speaker 3: Think we're going to do all right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be all right.

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Speaker 4: We'll be all right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And for those, as I was saying earlier, Brother Brian can't be here tonight.

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Speaker 3: He's feeling a little bit under the weather, which does happen sometimes.

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Speaker 3: And we are praying for a quick recovery.

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Speaker 3: He had a slight scare yesterday, had us all a little bit worried.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But good news today, nothing too awfully serious.

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Speaker 3: And thankfully, they can just kind of poke you with some stuff and make that better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was visiting with him today and sat with Nicole during one of the procedures they ran on him.

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Speaker 4: And it was really good news.

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Speaker 4: Really good news.

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Speaker 4: He did give us a little scare, though.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 4: A little scare.

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Speaker 4: But everything's going to be all right.

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Speaker 4: He's going to be keeping him overnight, and he'll be back with us tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Good.

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing he'll tone down his busyness.

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Speaker 4: Man, that dude is burning the candle at both ends kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: He's wide open.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 3: And that's one of those things.

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Speaker 3: You do have to be careful about that.

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Speaker 3: You get to really running it, running on all cylinders all the time.

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Speaker 3: Some of the cylinders start wearing out.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 3: But, and I was, I was very glad to hear from you this morning because, boy, I mean, Brother

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Speaker 3: Greg had us a little bit worried yesterday when he told us right before churches when

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Speaker 4: we found out that he was sick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he was just like, oh, no, I'm fine.

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Speaker 3: And it's like, no.

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Speaker 4: I had a deacon come in my Sunday school class and I'm still praying to close it, you know,

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Speaker 4: and he said, you got a message?

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Speaker 4: And I thought he was talking about my phone.

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Speaker 4: I started looking at my text messages.

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Speaker 4: No, no, Brian's sick.

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Speaker 4: He can't be here.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that kind of message.

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Speaker 4: No, but let's go anyway.

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Speaker 3: Hey, and it was wonderful.

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Speaker 3: It was a great message.

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Speaker 3: I loved it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will go ahead and show a little bit on the scripture side of how this is going to work so that people will know what to look for,

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Speaker 3: because I'm going to kind of mention what we went over last week.

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Speaker 3: We are going verse by verse through the book of Revelation.

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Speaker 4: All the symbology that's in it.

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Speaker 4: And we need to understand that the symbology is not there to hide truth.

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Speaker 4: It's there to reveal truth.

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Speaker 4: And it's a timeless way to do it.

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Speaker 4: And we need to understand these things.

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Speaker 4: And we can use a lot of the Bible itself to help interpret these symbols, right?

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Speaker 5: We see different things.

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Speaker 4: For instance, his clothed in a robe reaching to the feet and girded with a sash across his chest.

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Speaker 4: That speaks of his priesthood.

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Speaker 4: He's got this priestly garb on or his priestly robes on.

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Speaker 4: White always symbolizes purity.

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Speaker 4: My version of the New American Standard actually describes his feet as burnished bronze when it has been made to glow in a furnace.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I like that.

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Speaker 3: Man, and can you imagine?

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Speaker 3: They literally had this description of something that was almost indescribable.

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Speaker 3: And John had to use that to describe what he was seeing.

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Speaker 3: I can't even.

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Speaker 4: And this stuff, this first chapter is really laying out the theme of the whole book, right?

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Speaker 4: It's saying this is about the glory of Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: This whole book is about his glory and his being lifted high.

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Speaker 4: King of kings and Lord of lords in 19, right?

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Speaker 4: In chapter four, he's trying to describe things that can't possibly be described.

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Speaker 4: The throne of the father sitting there and a lamb coming up, taking a scroll from his hand.

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Speaker 4: And he's seeing into the spiritual realm, which is just not like where we are now and not like it at all.

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Speaker 4: Now, he's not talking about spiritual beings in this instance.

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Speaker 4: In most cases, when we talk about angels in the Bible, it's some spiritual being that just overwhelms whoever they appear in front of.

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Speaker 4: But I believe here, and I think most scholars believe that when he uses the word angel, it's really literally messenger.

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Speaker 4: And I believe what he's talking about here is a human and not a spiritual being like a pastor.

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Speaker 4: I should say the preachers.

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Speaker 5: The leader of that church.

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Speaker 4: So he's really writing those – he's saying those seven stars in his hand are those seven pastors.

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Speaker 4: So we could really get on Brother Brian here, right?

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Speaker 1: No pressure, brother.

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Speaker 4: Considered a star in the hand of Christ.

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Speaker 4: Live up.

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Speaker 4: But it shows the responsibility of it.

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 3: Pray for your pastors.

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Speaker 3: That responsibility is something that is passed on that God gave them.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's why God calls people into it,

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Speaker 3: and it's not something that you decide to do.

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Speaker 3: Don't jump into it haphazardly.

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Speaker 4: You're really getting into something very serious.

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Speaker 4: And you'll be judged much stricter.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember where that is, James or somewhere where it says that teachers will be judged in a much stricter way.

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Speaker 4: But he also talks about out of his mouth came a two-edged sword, a sharp two-edged sword.

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Speaker 4: And the word he uses here in the Greek is, I'm going to butcher it, romphia.

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Speaker 4: They jabbed, right?

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Speaker 4: They jabbed because that would deliver a death blow where a slap wouldn't necessarily.

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Speaker 3: To describe that, the closest analog we have to it, the Romans used a sword called a gladius.

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Speaker 3: If you've ever seen a full size machete, you know, about three, four foot long,

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Speaker 3: But when you pulled the thing out, it was, it was well balanced and it was a lot of,

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Speaker 3: um, a lot of strength in that, that metal, the way it was, the way it was forged,

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Speaker 3: the way it was built.

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Speaker 3: That was a sharp double edged sword.

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Speaker 3: They were like, oh yeah, we know exactly what that is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but this particular Greek word, I was talking about a big one.

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Speaker 4: A giant one, right?

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Speaker 4: And it talks of devastating judgment.

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Speaker 4: That comes from his mouth.

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Speaker 4: Now, what do we know about what comes out of the mouth of the Lord, right?

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Speaker 4: It's truth.

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Speaker 4: It's the word of God, right?

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Speaker 4: And the word of God is sharper than any two-edged sword.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: And it's capable of dividing them.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember the exact quote, but bone and marrow.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Taking the bone from the – or the flesh from the bone and dividing the marrow.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I have the quote here.

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Speaker 4: It's Hebrews 4.12.

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Speaker 4: I forgot I wrote that down.

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Speaker 4: For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

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Speaker 4: This is – and that goes into, you know, what he talked about before with his eyes of fire, like a blazing fire.

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Speaker 4: He sees everything.

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Speaker 5: He sees everything.

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Speaker 4: and he judges everything.

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Speaker 4: And so many people like to think of Jesus,

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Speaker 4: walked around in sandals and said some really cool things.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's going to judge you.

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Speaker 4: He's going to judge every intention of your heart.

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Speaker 4: And ouch.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't a – when people talk about Jesus being that spiritual teacher

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Speaker 3: And he was still pretty strict,

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Speaker 3: Well, I always go back.

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Speaker 3: I always go back to Christ when he was the woman being stoned and they brought her before him and they're like, all right, we're going to stone her.

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Speaker 3: And he said, well, let you who was without sin cast the first stone.

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Speaker 3: And they all went, oh, I can't really do that.

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Speaker 3: And then he turns around and he starts riding down the ground, looks around, goes, woman, where's your accusers?

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Speaker 3: And she's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They all left.

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Speaker 3: And he goes, go and sin no more.

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Speaker 3: He didn't excuse what she had done.

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Speaker 3: He was about to pay for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was about to pay for it.

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Speaker 3: And he was making it clear to her, hey, I'm not excusing it.

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Speaker 3: You still have a responsibility.

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Speaker 3: Go and sin no more.

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Speaker 3: But what they were doing was also wrong.

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Speaker 3: Because they weren't doing it because it was what they were commanded to do.

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Speaker 3: They were doing it because they hated, because they were angry, because they wanted to prove a point.

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Speaker 3: They didn't bring the man.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 3: No, they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Because he was probably one of the guys in the crowd.

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Speaker 3: They didn't bring one of the guys with the rock.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, and, you know, the thing is, Jesus standing there looking at him, he knew exactly.

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Speaker 3: In an instant, he knew.

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Speaker 3: And that's here, John is seeing that without the human body in the way.

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Speaker 4: It's a purer version of the glory that Moses saw.

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Speaker 4: He was just shining with him.

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Speaker 4: And he was like a dim version of this, right?

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Speaker 4: And who else was it?

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Speaker 4: When they saw him just like start glowing.

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Speaker 4: And that goes right back to what we talk about all the time, the truth with love.

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Speaker 3: It's always that combination.

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Speaker 4: And I don't want to have to face that.

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Speaker 4: And it won't come to the light like I talked about yesterday.

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Speaker 4: But it's a fearsome thing to fall into the hands of the living God, right?

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Speaker 4: It's a terrible thing.

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Speaker 4: And John's getting a glimpse of him here, and it's almost indescribable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he catches a glimpse of Christ and his power and his glory and his judgment.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, and this is before he's even gotten into the actual judgment later on.

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Speaker 3: This is just glimpsing Christ, speaking to him, letting him know what he's about to reveal to him.

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Speaker 4: With a voice like a trumpet or many rushing waters, you know, it's like, wow.

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Speaker 3: Not a waterfall.

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Speaker 3: It's like being at Niagara Falls where there's, you know, a hundred of them or however, what is it, like eight, I think, at Niagara Falls or something like that.

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Speaker 4: And he describes his reaction, right?

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Speaker 4: And verse 17, when I saw him, I felt at his feet like a dead man.

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Speaker 4: What else can you do?

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Speaker 4: I'm dead, right?

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Speaker 4: And I can't move.

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Speaker 4: And there's always followed by a touch, though, right?

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Speaker 4: Don't stay there.

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Speaker 3: I didn't reveal this to you for you to lay on the ground.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing that God is showing us when he does that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't just do this for you to lay down and die.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not trying to kill you.

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Speaker 3: So when we turn around and do that, think about that.

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Speaker 3: We are called as Christians to tell.

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Speaker 3: We are revealed these truths.

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Speaker 3: We are shown this glory.

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Speaker 3: We are shown this great mercy and grace.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he's going, I didn't call you to lay down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But the other side of that is that the holiness that you've just gotten in front of is-

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Speaker 5: It'll kill you.

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Speaker 4: It'll literally kill you.

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Speaker 4: And that's one thing.

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Speaker 3: It's so full and inundated with sin.

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Speaker 3: That's why the end is what it is.

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Speaker 3: It cannot survive in God's presence because God is pure.

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Speaker 4: He's holy.

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Speaker 3: He's righteous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And we always think, well, I wish God would just show himself to me.

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Speaker 4: No, you don't.

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Speaker 4: Not really.

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Speaker 4: You won't survive it.

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Speaker 4: You don't want God to speak to you audibly like that either.

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Speaker 4: Because, you know, remember Mount Sinai again, right?

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Speaker 4: The Israelites were down there saying, make him stop, make him stop.

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Speaker 4: Because we can't bear to hear his voice.

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Speaker 4: All they could hear was the thunderings coming off the mountain.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've always thought of it as God is so much bigger than us that even at his most gentle,

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Speaker 3: And that's why they view it as just this powerful light and this strong noise.

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Speaker 3: It's our human bodies.

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Speaker 3: And it's your brain is overwhelming and is being overwhelmed.

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Speaker 4: And you're just blowing neurons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly the reason why he came and became one of us, right?

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Speaker 4: There's this story.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure I'm just absolutely going to butcher it.

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Speaker 4: but because I'm sure I will, but hopefully you get the point.

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Speaker 4: But this old man is in his house on a winter night and he's somewhere up north

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Speaker 4: And he sees these little birds outside and he wants to feed them.

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Speaker 4: They can't, they're around in the snow and they're going to freeze to death.

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Speaker 4: And he feels bad for them.

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Speaker 4: And I'll leave a breadcrumb trail and I'll try to lead them to the barn.

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Speaker 4: They're scared of him, right?

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Speaker 4: And he's just racking his brain how to get these birds into safety.

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Speaker 4: And he said, well, if I could just become one of them.

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Speaker 4: This is what God did for us so that we wouldn't be overwhelmed with that, with his presence.

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Speaker 3: He became one of us so that we could relate to him.

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Speaker 3: Well, and even going further than that, thinking about when nature researchers go out to these places to research different animals, what do they do?

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Speaker 3: They try to figure out ways to blend in, to fit in, to make the animals think that they're one of them.

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Speaker 3: Because if they just walk up on their two legs, the animal goes, I don't know what you are.

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Speaker 3: Because they've learned that humans are something to be feared, that they're something dangerous.

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Speaker 3: It's wired into them.

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Speaker 3: A God that is so much bigger than us, you don't think it's wired into our very biology to fall down?

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Speaker 3: As dead.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about, I mean, you know, all these people writing all these stories over the years, the ones that were actually terrifying is when you get shown a being that is incomprehensible.

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Speaker 3: It's something that we can't describe.

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Speaker 3: We can't explain.

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Speaker 4: And he has to describe him as one like a son of man because he looks kind of like a human.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of.

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Speaker 4: He's one like a son of man.

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Speaker 3: And I love, oh, and you know, we also went, we described going back and every time you see that description in scripture, there's, oh man, there's something good coming.

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Speaker 3: You know, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and he looks in, oh, we threw three in, but there's four in there.

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Speaker 3: And one of them looks like the son of man.

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Speaker 3: And what happens?

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Speaker 3: The three of them walk out of that furnace that was so hot, it killed the guys throwing them in it.

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Speaker 3: And then they go and they throw Daniel in the lion's den.

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Speaker 3: After that, and then he comes out and old Nebuchadnezzar's just like, I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 3: Forget this.

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Speaker 3: No point in fighting it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when God shows up as the son of man, which is not Jesus Christ incarnate.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 3: This is the pre-incarnate.

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Speaker 3: This is Jesus Christ as he can appear to us without his human body.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: As he really is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would go so far as to say it's even just a fraction of what he is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Because you're talking about something so big.

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Speaker 3: He created the entire universe with a word.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: With a word.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: All again, it goes back to that description.

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Speaker 3: My favorite description of God.

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Speaker 3: Everybody says he's got the whole world in his hand.

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Speaker 3: It's like, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: The whole world isn't in his hand.

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Speaker 3: Everything in the universe exists within his presence.

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Speaker 3: Think of it as we might be next to a, in terms of human anatomy, you might be next to his belly button.

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Speaker 3: You're so small.

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Speaker 3: His hand is so large.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't even begin to, you're just a speck.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

450
00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 4: And I love the description Paul gives in Colossians 1.

451
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 4: He says, he is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation, starting at verse 15.

452
00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:32,020
Speaker 4: For by him, all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible,

453
00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 4: where the thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities, all things have been created through him and for him.

454
00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 4: He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

455
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,860
Speaker 4: He is also the head of the body, the church, and he is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead,

456
00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 4: so that he himself will come to have first place in everything,

457
00:20:49,140 --> 00:20:52,940
Speaker 4: for it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in him.

458
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 4: Man, there's that description again, firstborn of the dead.

459
00:20:56,420 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 3: Firstborn, again, described to us as who Christ is, and it just keeps going on.

460
00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 3: You find these threads, guys.

461
00:21:03,580 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

462
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 4: Pay attention.

463
00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

464
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 4: And that's why you really need to bone up on the rest of the Bible to understand Revelation more and more.

465
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,340
Speaker 4: The more you understand about the rest of it, the symbology starts to make a little more sense,

466
00:21:15,820 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 3: and everything starts to come together a little bit.

467
00:21:18,190 --> 00:21:19,300
Speaker 4: But his reaction, you know.

468
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: Continuing on with 17 there.

469
00:21:21,860 --> 00:21:27,420
Speaker 3: When he says that, Christ is saying, I conquered hell when I conquered the grave.

470
00:21:27,790 --> 00:21:29,180
Speaker 3: I didn't just conquer the grave.

471
00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:35,020
Speaker 3: It's not just that I'm a victor over death and that death has no fear.

472
00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:41,060
Speaker 3: for the believers because we know what we've got waiting on us right right right but he's also

473
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:48,860
Speaker 3: conquered hell it's already conquered already lost yeah satan's lost he had he can't win yeah

474
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:56,460
Speaker 3: he's greater than death he can't be killed yeah right so i mean that oh i love that that phrasing

475
00:21:56,470 --> 00:22:03,020
Speaker 3: there and i love that i was dead but look now i'm alive forever and ever yeah yeah and it shows

476
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 4: It shows that those keys that he has at death and Hades, I mean, he stripped Satan of any authority he ever had since the Garden of Eden.

477
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:12,940
Speaker 4: That authority is Jesus again, right?

478
00:22:13,260 --> 00:22:13,420
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

479
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,860
Speaker 4: It's all his, and he's sovereign over death and life for all creation.

480
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 4: Nobody dies without his permission.

481
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,060
Speaker 3: Exactly.

482
00:22:20,460 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 4: And nobody lives without his permission.

483
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 4: So that's the sovereignty that our God is, and that's Jesus Christ, folks.

484
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,380
Speaker 4: Don't let anybody tell you any different that some nonsense about Jesus is not God.

485
00:22:32,180 --> 00:22:33,020
Speaker 4: He is God.

486
00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 4: He is God the Son, and all authority has been given him, according to Matthew 25.

487
00:22:37,740 --> 00:22:38,260
Speaker 4: No, not 25.

488
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,860
Speaker 4: What's the last chapter of Matthew?

489
00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 5: Anyway, the Great Commission.

490
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: The Great Commission, he says, you know, all authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth.

491
00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 4: He is the one that you have to go to.

492
00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:52,860
Speaker 3: And, oh, man, I don't know.

493
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 3: Have you heard the Mercy Me song, O Death?

494
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 4: O Death, I'm not sure.

495
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,620
Speaker 3: It's one of their newest ones.

496
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 3: And in it, I just love there.

497
00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:09,860
Speaker 3: He's singing about, oh, death, you are dead to me because you've not met the one who conquered you.

498
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good.

499
00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:12,420
Speaker 3: And I love that.

500
00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:13,100
Speaker 3: I love that.

501
00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: And again, that's going back to this.

502
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:17,500
Speaker 3: It's nothing for us to fear.

503
00:23:18,220 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: No, we don't need to be afraid of death.

504
00:23:20,020 --> 00:23:20,540
Speaker 3: We don't need to be afraid.

505
00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:23,420
Speaker 3: Look, don't go out picking a fight with the devil.

506
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:23,940
Speaker 3: Okay.

507
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that.

508
00:23:25,410 --> 00:23:27,220
Speaker 3: But if he comes picking a fight with you.

509
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:28,260
Speaker 3: Stand up.

510
00:23:29,420 --> 00:23:30,540
Speaker 3: God's got your back.

511
00:23:30,740 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 4: He's with you.

512
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,300
Speaker 4: Because I'm going to tell you something.

513
00:23:32,610 --> 00:23:36,740
Speaker 3: Satan doesn't come and pick a fight with you unless you're doing what you're supposed to be doing.

514
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,020
Speaker 3: Right.

515
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:43,540
Speaker 3: If you're in there with him, if you're doing what Satan wants you to do, if you're out there living like the world, Satan's not going to bother you.

516
00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: If you haven't been attacked, it's because you're doing what he wants you to do.

517
00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 4: And that's what he's constantly tempting us to do is to immobilize us, right?

518
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 4: He's supposed to neutralize us, I guess is a better word.

519
00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

520
00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 4: Just get us on the sidelines.

521
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 3: Just get us to sit.

522
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: Again, lay down.

523
00:23:57,690 --> 00:23:57,780
Speaker 5: Yeah.

524
00:23:57,980 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 3: Just get us to lay down and, well, there's nothing I can do.

525
00:24:00,820 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: But when we go out, when we do what we're called to do, when we try to make heaven be crowded, we're out there doing that.

526
00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:10,020
Speaker 3: Oh, man.

527
00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: Jesus is right there with us.

528
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 3: He's got our back.

529
00:24:12,620 --> 00:24:13,740
Speaker 3: He's got the angels with us.

530
00:24:14,020 --> 00:24:17,500
Speaker 3: And if Satan comes against you, I'm not saying bad things won't happen.

531
00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: Right.

532
00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:19,220
Speaker 3: Bad things will happen.

533
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely.

534
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: And things might get tough.

535
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:23,220
Speaker 4: Yeah.

536
00:24:23,260 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: But you've got nothing to fear because he can't touch you.

537
00:24:27,220 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 3: Right.

538
00:24:27,780 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: And the thing to remember is, yeah, I started to say that's the thing to remember.

539
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,460
Speaker 3: He might be able to touch your body.

540
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:33,420
Speaker 4: Yeah.

541
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: But you're not a body with a soul.

542
00:24:35,740 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: You're a soul that just happens to have a body.

543
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:38,420
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

544
00:24:38,660 --> 00:24:38,980
Speaker 3: Right now.

545
00:24:39,230 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 4: And that's what I was trying to remind the church of yesterday in my stand-up performance.

546
00:24:48,380 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 4: But the church needs to be ready because this is getting worse.

547
00:24:51,310 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 4: You know, we saw some ugly stuff yesterday, somebody that's standing up for truth.

548
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 4: And like I said, he wasn't an evangelist like Billy Graham or somebody like that, but the

549
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,780
Speaker 4: guy was definitely an evangelist.

550
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: He was standing up for the truth, speaking light into the darkness, like in the very,

551
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 4: very core of the darkness of our country and our civilization or universities right now.

552
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:13,060
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

553
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 4: The darkness is emanating from them, if that's even possible.

554
00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:18,700
Speaker 4: That's where it is.

555
00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:23,780
Speaker 4: And he's sitting on those campuses right in the heart of Satan's territory, shining light

556
00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:24,140
Speaker 3: in there.

557
00:25:24,380 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: And he was an evangelist.

558
00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: That's where it's concentrated.

559
00:25:26,780 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 3: That's, I mean, because, and the thing is, you want to know why it's concentrated there?

560
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:32,660
Speaker 3: It's not a hard thing to understand, by the way, folks.

561
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: It's really easy.

562
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: It's concentrated in our universities and our schools because that is the young, impressionable people that if Satan can get them then, he doesn't have to worry about them later.

563
00:25:46,380 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: And we as Christians have forgotten that.

564
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,060
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

565
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,100
Speaker 4: And we see, and that's where we see most of the confusion, right?

566
00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 4: We're confused over gender ideology.

567
00:25:55,740 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 4: We're confused over sexuality.

568
00:25:58,260 --> 00:26:00,100
Speaker 4: We're confused about all these different things.

569
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,380
Speaker 4: And Satan is the author of that stuff.

570
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

571
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:05,260
Speaker 4: And God doesn't cause confusion.

572
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:05,780
Speaker 4: No.

573
00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 4: He clarifies everything.

574
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: He makes it clear.

575
00:26:09,020 --> 00:26:09,300
Speaker 4: Yeah.

576
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

577
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:11,660
Speaker 4: All right.

578
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 4: Verse 19.

579
00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:14,220
Speaker 4: 19.

580
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 4: Write the things which you've seen.

581
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,900
Speaker 4: Tell them about my glory that we've just discussed, right?

582
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 5: That he's just seen the Lord in his glory.

583
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: And that's chapter one.

584
00:26:24,750 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 4: And the things which are, he's referring to the letters he's about to write in chapters two and three.

585
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: These are the things that are right now.

586
00:26:32,060 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: These churches exist right now.

587
00:26:33,790 --> 00:26:37,340
Speaker 4: And we'll talk more about these churches and really what they're about.

588
00:26:37,540 --> 00:26:41,060
Speaker 4: There were churches that were there at that time, but they're also churches.

589
00:26:41,580 --> 00:26:44,500
Speaker 4: These churches represent different periods of church history,

590
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:48,180
Speaker 4: and they also could possibly represent churches that are around right now

591
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: and different characteristics of churches.

592
00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 4: But the key thing I get out of these letters to the churches that we're going to talk about is that they're personal.

593
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: Yes.

594
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,060
Speaker 4: They're personal.

595
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,820
Speaker 4: We need to read these in a personal way.

596
00:26:59,230 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 4: But this is really just an outline because the things which will take place after these things starts in chapter 4 and goes all the way to 22, the end of Revelation.

597
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 4: So he's really laying out an outline, chapter 1, chapters 2 and 3, and chapters 4 through 22.

598
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: And this is, I guess I need to explain that you and I and Brother Brian are coming from this interpretation of this book from a futurist viewpoint.

599
00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 5: There's a viewpoint of what they call a preterist.

600
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:38,420
Speaker 4: A lot of people believe that this, or actually a lot of people, I wouldn't say a lot, but some people believe that this is completely allegorical.

601
00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: That this stuff is just allegory for this or that.

602
00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 4: Who knows?

603
00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:43,740
Speaker 4: They come up with all these different things.

604
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,020
Speaker 4: It just opens the door wide open to anything you want it to believe.

605
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,060
Speaker 3: Basically saying the whole thing is symbolic.

606
00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

607
00:27:49,260 --> 00:27:49,380
Speaker 4: Yeah.

608
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:57,900
Speaker 4: And then the next one is the preterists, which believe that most of this stuff's already happened back in 80s, 70s, and had to do with Rome destroying Jerusalem.

609
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: But we fall more onto the futures.

610
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,660
Speaker 4: Well, we believe this stuff is in the future.

611
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,460
Speaker 4: It's coming.

612
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,420
Speaker 4: There's a literal thousand-year reign of Christ in what we call a millennium.

613
00:28:09,780 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 4: We believe in a pre-millennial tribulation.

614
00:28:12,260 --> 00:28:14,700
Speaker 4: We believe in a pre-tribulation rapture.

615
00:28:15,290 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 4: And that's kind of where we're coming from on this, I guess, eschatology, if you want to use the big word, end time stuff, right?

616
00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:24,500
Speaker 4: Throw out the big words every once in a while.

617
00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:24,740
Speaker 4: Yes.

618
00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: You know, spew them out there.

619
00:28:28,660 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: Well, and that was one of the things Brian and I pointed out last week is that we are coming from the pre-tribulation rapture.

620
00:28:34,270 --> 00:28:34,860
Speaker 3: But we didn't.

621
00:28:35,140 --> 00:28:44,060
Speaker 3: But I actually forgot that there are people that think the entire book of Revelation is just allegorical or it's a accounting of things that at the time it was written was in the future.

622
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: But everything's already come to pass.

623
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

624
00:28:46,660 --> 00:28:50,180
Speaker 4: And it's like, apparently they didn't bother paying attention to what's at the end of it.

625
00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: And they have to mess around with the date that it was written in order to do that.

626
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: To make it fit into that it's already happened thing, they have to say, well, it was written in AD 65 or so.

627
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: And that's really about the same time as a lot of the other New Testament books were written.

628
00:29:04,580 --> 00:29:05,660
Speaker 5: And it don't line up, right?

629
00:29:05,860 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 4: He's got a letter to the church at Ephesus, and Paul was there during that time period.

630
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 4: So it don't really line up.

631
00:29:13,860 --> 00:29:21,060
Speaker 4: And most people believe that this letter was written a lot later, like 1895 is the last book written in the Bible.

632
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was towards the end of John's life.

633
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

634
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:28,780
Speaker 3: And, I mean, he was not a young man when he got exiled to Patmos.

635
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,580
Speaker 3: And he had been on Patmos.

636
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,140
Speaker 3: He was on Patmos for quite some time.

637
00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

638
00:29:33,340 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: And I can't, does history hold that he passed away on Patman?

639
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,260
Speaker 4: I can never remember that.

640
00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: I don't know.

641
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,900
Speaker 3: For some reason, I'm thinking it does, but I'm afraid to say definitely because I just can't remember.

642
00:29:44,340 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

643
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,140
Speaker 3: But I have heard people talk about it.

644
00:29:46,140 --> 00:29:51,020
Speaker 3: I know that he was at the very least, it was very near the end of John's life.

645
00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

646
00:29:51,420 --> 00:29:52,140
Speaker 4: He had to be pretty old.

647
00:29:52,260 --> 00:29:55,300
Speaker 4: And he was probably very young when he was a disciple of Jesus, right?

648
00:29:55,580 --> 00:29:55,900
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.

649
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:58,540
Speaker 4: He had to be pretty young because that happened around 80, 30.

650
00:29:58,980 --> 00:30:00,540
Speaker 3: So that's 65 years later.

651
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:00,980
Speaker 4: Yeah.

652
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: He was in his early teens at the mid-teens, I would say, probably, because he was old enough that he was doing a certain amount of work on his own, which, granted, did happen much earlier back then.

653
00:30:15,070 --> 00:30:19,420
Speaker 3: But dad didn't typically let very young men go out and run the business for them.

654
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,460
Speaker 3: They kind of kept a thumb on him.

655
00:30:22,540 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: So his brother James must have been pretty young, too, same age, right?

656
00:30:26,180 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: And we know that their dad did keep kind of a thumb on them when they were out doing stuff because, you know, the Bible talks about, you know, there are several verses where they reference back to going back to their father's house and going back to.

657
00:30:37,380 --> 00:30:38,940
Speaker 3: So dad was keeping kind of a thumb on them.

658
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: And then this guy, Jesus, comes on.

659
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,580
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, OK, you guys can go with him.

660
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

661
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 4: I mean, it's possible, you know, in Revelation that John's 90.

662
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 5: Easily.

663
00:30:46,780 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 5: He could be right.

664
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,180
Speaker 4: He could have been 30 when, you know, he was hanging out with Jesus.

665
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: But we don't really know.

666
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,540
Speaker 4: But we do know that, man, John, if I have a favorite disciple, it's John.

667
00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.

668
00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:59,900
Speaker 4: I just love this guy because he's the disciple of love.

669
00:30:59,990 --> 00:31:00,540
Speaker 4: You know, he just.

670
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 4: Yes.

671
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,060
Speaker 4: But not in the love that a lot of people in the world have today.

672
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: You know, we just affirm everybody's every action.

673
00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: It wasn't that kind of love.

674
00:31:12,210 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: But just to, I can't wait to meet him.

675
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,540
Speaker 3: I know.

676
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:15,940
Speaker 3: Yeah.

677
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:16,940
Speaker 3: I got so many questions.

678
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:17,620
Speaker 4: Yeah.

679
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: So many things I'd love to ask him just to, and they're not important.

680
00:31:21,580 --> 00:31:22,780
Speaker 4: No, not at all.

681
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: What was this like?

682
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:25,180
Speaker 3: What was that like?

683
00:31:25,820 --> 00:31:25,980
Speaker 4: Yeah.

684
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

685
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: It'll be pretty cool.

686
00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: Pretty cool.

687
00:31:29,620 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: So going to verse 20, I mentioned last week that we had already kind of gone through that

688
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,540
Speaker 3: explanation of what the lampstands were.

689
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: But that's one of the things that Brother Brian was saying last week.

690
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: You can always tell where the symbology is.

691
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 5: And there's some form of explanation somewhere about it.

692
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: The fact is, even when he saw this, John was physically seeing this stuff.

693
00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:49,940
Speaker 5: Yeah.

694
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:55,060
Speaker 3: This wasn't something that he wasn't – I mean, it could have been a vision.

695
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:57,020
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what he meant when he said I was in the spirit.

696
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: But the description, I mean, at the very least, there was a certain amount of physical seeing, even if it was a vision.

697
00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:08,540
Speaker 3: And to see all this, and then Jesus just goes, hey, by the way, I'm going to go ahead and tell you what this is.

698
00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: That just shows you that Christ wants to make sure that we know what's in the book.

699
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,460
Speaker 3: He's not trying to hide anything.

700
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:23,140
Speaker 3: It's not like if you deal with modern New Age stuff and paganism and all of that, everything's a secret.

701
00:32:23,740 --> 00:32:25,860
Speaker 3: Everything, we're going to keep it a secret.

702
00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:30,540
Speaker 3: You're going to reveal you these little bits of truth, and you're going to get a little truth here and a little truth there.

703
00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:32,380
Speaker 3: And then when you go deeper, you'll get deeper truths.

704
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: And Jesus said, here's the truth.

705
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:36,340
Speaker 3: I'm going to lay it out for you right here.

706
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 4: There's nothing hidden.

707
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: He told his disciples at one point.

708
00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:40,740
Speaker 3: I'm telling this stuff openly.

709
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,300
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to hide this from you.

710
00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:44,420
Speaker 4: Shout it from the rooftops.

711
00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. He doesn't want to hide things from us.

712
00:32:47,620 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: And by the way, that's the difference.

713
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: You want to know the difference between the Christians and the world?

714
00:32:51,340 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: The world wants to always have a secret truth.

715
00:32:55,059 --> 00:32:56,460
Speaker 3: Yeah. Insider knowledge, right?

716
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

717
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,660
Speaker 3: That's everything in the world is set up around that idea.

718
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 4: And why?

719
00:33:01,539 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: We say, no, no, no, no.

720
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,740
Speaker 3: Truth is out in the open.

721
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: Everybody can see it.

722
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: Because it's pride, right? It's pride.

723
00:33:08,860 --> 00:33:10,100
Speaker 4: It's I know more than you.

724
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

725
00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:13,580
Speaker 4: So what? What are you doing with it?

726
00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:15,380
Speaker 5: You know, I don't mind.

727
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: Human pride's an ugly thing.

728
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,820
Speaker 5: But he does explain this symbology.

729
00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: And it's rich.

730
00:33:21,420 --> 00:33:25,420
Speaker 4: And we should take every part of this book literally unless you can't.

731
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,140
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

732
00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:29,700
Speaker 4: And there are some things you can't take literally in here, like a dragon rising out of the sea.

733
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:30,620
Speaker 4: Right?

734
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: Maybe you could, I guess.

735
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: Or we might be surprised.

736
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

737
00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:37,500
Speaker 3: May turn out there's a dragon down there.

738
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 4: Scarlet beast with a prostitute sitting on the back of it.

739
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: That's probably symbolic.

740
00:33:43,620 --> 00:33:44,380
Speaker 4: Seems symbolic.

741
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,780
Speaker 3: We can be surprised, but it seems a little bit on the symbolics.

742
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:56,860
Speaker 4: But we take it literally wherever we can because that was one of the mistakes that the people of Jesus' day in the first century, they missed it.

743
00:33:57,420 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: They missed the coming of the Messiah because they had it all wrong in their prophetic outlook, right?

744
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,580
Speaker 4: They didn't understand what it was going to look like when he got here.

745
00:34:07,180 --> 00:34:11,139
Speaker 4: And the symbolism tripped them up somehow and different things.

746
00:34:11,260 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

747
00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 4: We need to understand that this stuff can be taken literally.

748
00:34:16,659 --> 00:34:19,220
Speaker 4: And everything that was prophesied about Jesus' first coming was literal.

749
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

750
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:20,700
Speaker 4: Why?

751
00:34:21,379 --> 00:34:22,340
Speaker 3: A virgin will give birth.

752
00:34:22,780 --> 00:34:24,379
Speaker 4: Why make it allegorical?

753
00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

754
00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 4: In Bethlehem.

755
00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

756
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

757
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:29,580
Speaker 3: A virgin will give birth in Bethlehem.

758
00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 3: And he will flee to Egypt.

759
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: And they were like, well, what that really means is.

760
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:36,540
Speaker 3: And it's like, what?

761
00:34:37,220 --> 00:34:37,620
Speaker 3: No.

762
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: No.

763
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,179
Speaker 3: Where do you get that?

764
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:41,740
Speaker 3: Take it literally until you can't.

765
00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:42,020
Speaker 3: Yeah.

766
00:34:42,379 --> 00:34:43,300
Speaker 3: And I get it.

767
00:34:43,340 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: I get it because that sounds impossible.

768
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:45,620
Speaker 4: Yeah.

769
00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:47,340
Speaker 3: That sounds completely and utterly impossible.

770
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,419
Speaker 3: So the early Jews were thinking, well, okay, that's not literal.

771
00:34:53,379 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: And so it's just going to be somebody whose mom was really pure.

772
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,100
Speaker 3: She was really good.

773
00:34:59,220 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: And, you know, her family's going to be really good.

774
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,300
Speaker 3: And that's where their brain was.

775
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,380
Speaker 3: And their mind was like, okay, and it says Bethlehem.

776
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: It just means a small town.

777
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: And it doesn't literally mean they're going to flee Egypt.

778
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,300
Speaker 3: And they were trying to come up with, how do we explain this?

779
00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:13,940
Speaker 3: Because all that sounded kind of crazy.

780
00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

781
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,020
Speaker 3: And then Jesus comes along and, you know, nobody knew the story of Mary.

782
00:35:20,340 --> 00:35:23,740
Speaker 3: Nobody knew what, I mean, there were some shepherds that knew and they went out and told everybody.

783
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: But who listens to a shepherd?

784
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:27,260
Speaker 3: Yeah.

785
00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: Nobody was listening to them and nobody really knew.

786
00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: And then Jesus comes along.

787
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:43,980
Speaker 3: And I mean, it was sometime after Christ likely had already ascended into heaven before Mary's actual, her viewpoint of the birth of Christ ever came out.

788
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,380
Speaker 3: Like, he was probably already gone.

789
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:45,980
Speaker 4: Yeah.

790
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 3: And then they went back and everybody got talking to her.

791
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: She's like, okay, yeah, I'll tell you what happened.

792
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:56,180
Speaker 3: And I mean, she has that hymn that she wrote, that song that she wrote in, was it Matthew or Luke?

793
00:35:56,260 --> 00:35:57,180
Speaker 3: Yeah, Matthew, I believe.

794
00:35:57,540 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: No, it was Luke.

795
00:35:58,430 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, anyway.

796
00:35:59,420 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: But the reason I think it was Luke is because Luke was not, you know, the thing you have to remember about the Gospels, Matthew, John, and Mark were present.

797
00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 3: They witnessed everything with their own two eyes.

798
00:36:11,740 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: They were present for everything.

799
00:36:12,860 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 5: Luke was coming along behind them.

800
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,700
Speaker 5: He was just a reporter that came along behind them because he heard about all this and went, this sounds kind of crazy.

801
00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:25,940
Speaker 3: And he starts asking questions, and then he can't poke a hole in the story and realize, oh, yeah, this might be true.

802
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,220
Speaker 3: Well, he hung out with Paul in Acts, too.

803
00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:28,660
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

804
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:31,700
Speaker 3: But he went back and collected the story at a later date.

805
00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 3: But, I mean, he was the historian.

806
00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: He was the story collector.

807
00:36:36,540 --> 00:36:43,540
Speaker 3: So a lot of his story comes across a little strange because he's collecting firsthand accounts from different people and putting them together.

808
00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:54,700
Speaker 3: And so that's why I'm 90% sure that's where Mary's – her little – the part she wrote about her praise to God and her being thankful for what has happened.

809
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 4: Because I'm thinking she just handed to him, hey, you should put this in there, by the way.

810
00:36:59,450 --> 00:37:01,500
Speaker 3: And he was like, oh, yeah, absolutely.

811
00:37:02,210 --> 00:37:11,740
Speaker 3: And wait, so when you tell me that when y'all were hanging out with the disciples and they're saying that all these things happen with the shepherds and the wise men and the running to Egypt, that really happened?

812
00:37:11,770 --> 00:37:13,380
Speaker 3: And she's like, yeah, exactly the way they told you.

813
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

814
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:14,620
Speaker 3: Yeah.

815
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:15,500
Speaker 4: Yeah.

816
00:37:15,660 --> 00:37:20,980
Speaker 4: And man, the thing that gets me about this prophetic stuff about this first coming is Isaiah 53.

817
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.

818
00:37:22,580 --> 00:37:26,700
Speaker 4: I mean, this stuff is playing out right in front of their eyes in one, two days, right?

819
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.

820
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:31,620
Speaker 4: And their hearts are so hardened that they just completely miss it.

821
00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: And to this day, Jewish people read Isaiah 53 in a whole different light than historical, literal kind of prophetic stuff.

822
00:37:40,270 --> 00:37:41,540
Speaker 3: And they kept thinking.

823
00:37:41,730 --> 00:37:45,020
Speaker 3: Again, they were looking for a conquering king.

824
00:37:45,540 --> 00:37:45,740
Speaker 4: Yeah.

825
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,180
Speaker 3: They were looking for a conqueror.

826
00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:49,660
Speaker 3: Revelation is the conquering king.

827
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,180
Speaker 3: Yeah.

828
00:37:50,490 --> 00:37:50,620
Speaker 3: Yeah.

829
00:37:50,820 --> 00:37:53,180
Speaker 3: That's where the conquering king is coming back.

830
00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:56,620
Speaker 3: He had given them a preview of it, but he made it.

831
00:37:56,970 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 3: He was telling them in the Old Testament, hey, look, I'm going to come first as a baby.

832
00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:06,220
Speaker 3: I'm going to come first as a man of peace.

833
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,020
Speaker 3: Yeah, by his stripes you were healed.

834
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,500
Speaker 3: The stripes have to happen.

835
00:38:09,860 --> 00:38:10,220
Speaker 3: Exactly.

836
00:38:10,570 --> 00:38:12,020
Speaker 3: And these are the things I'm going to do first.

837
00:38:12,450 --> 00:38:15,500
Speaker 3: But after that, he was giving them a preview.

838
00:38:15,570 --> 00:38:16,620
Speaker 3: He was giving them hope.

839
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter how bad things get, guys.

840
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,420
Speaker 3: By his stripes you are healed.

841
00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: You're going to be healed.

842
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: You're going to have this man of peace come and bring you salvation and bring you cleansing.

843
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:33,380
Speaker 3: But then after that, and after he comes into his own and his own know him not, and they reject him.

844
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:34,900
Speaker 3: Right.

845
00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 3: They were told.

846
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:38,340
Speaker 3: It's in Isaiah.

847
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,740
Speaker 3: It says he's going to be rejected.

848
00:38:39,980 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: It's crazy that the ones that murdered him, they knew what they were doing.

849
00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:44,420
Speaker 4: Yes.

850
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,180
Speaker 4: And cheered.

851
00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:45,660
Speaker 4: Yeah.

852
00:38:45,980 --> 00:38:46,340
Speaker 4: Happily.

853
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 4: They knew.

854
00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:50,860
Speaker 4: It's like the high priest said, isn't it expedient for one man to die for the nation?

855
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: Oh, well, that's exactly what happened.

856
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 4: Yes.

857
00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 4: And for the whole world, right?

858
00:38:57,279 --> 00:38:59,500
Speaker 4: But God did give them something, right?

859
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,740
Speaker 4: Oh, yes.

860
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:01,140
Speaker 4: Daniel.

861
00:39:01,660 --> 00:39:01,940
Speaker 5: Yes.

862
00:39:02,140 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: Daniel is the revelation of the Old Testament.

863
00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:04,380
Speaker 4: Yes.

864
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:04,740
Speaker 4: Right?

865
00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:06,140
Speaker 4: It's got some awesome stories in it.

866
00:39:06,140 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 4: It's got Shadrach, Meshach, Nebedo, and the fiery oven, right, like you mentioned.

867
00:39:09,740 --> 00:39:11,460
Speaker 4: It's got Daniel in the lion's den.

868
00:39:11,650 --> 00:39:12,980
Speaker 4: It's got the handwriting on the wall.

869
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: It's got this stuff in there.

870
00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 5: The story of the food.

871
00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

872
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,340
Speaker 3: That's always one of my favorite ones when I was growing up because, you know, there's no real threat to it.

873
00:39:21,940 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 3: But, you know, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, and Daniel, the four of them were taken before him.

874
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 3: And they were told, hey, we're going to serve you this food that's been sacrificed to a false god.

875
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,220
Speaker 3: It's been sacrificed to a demon.

876
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:38,220
Speaker 3: And they went, no, you can't make us eat it.

877
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:39,300
Speaker 3: We're not going to eat it.

878
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:39,620
Speaker 4: Yeah.

879
00:39:39,860 --> 00:39:41,780
Speaker 3: And they said, all right, well, but you've got to be strong.

880
00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:43,940
Speaker 3: And they said, well, just let us see what we're going to eat.

881
00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: I mean, they were doing everything they could to assimilate them into that culture.

882
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

883
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,620
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what the world's doing today.

884
00:39:50,820 --> 00:39:51,100
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

885
00:39:51,150 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 4: That's exactly what the Babylon of today, the secular humanism that we live in, is trying

886
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,500
Speaker 4: to do to us.

887
00:39:56,580 --> 00:40:02,060
Speaker 4: They're trying to get us into that new name, eat our food, drink our drink, do our things,

888
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:02,980
Speaker 4: learn our literature.

889
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:09,140
Speaker 3: I think sometimes we as Christians would be better off to go back and do exactly what

890
00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:10,740
Speaker 3: those four boys, because they were young.

891
00:40:10,940 --> 00:40:11,660
Speaker 3: They weren't adults.

892
00:40:11,860 --> 00:40:14,940
Speaker 3: They were young boys taken in front of the kings, put in the palace.

893
00:40:14,990 --> 00:40:16,140
Speaker 3: They were the choice ones.

894
00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: Yes.

895
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: And they're sitting here and they refuse food from the king's table.

896
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: They're eating just vegetables.

897
00:40:22,140 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

898
00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: You know, not quite slop, but the cheapest stuff they could get that hadn't been offered to gods,

899
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: hadn't been sacrificed on these false altars, on these altars to idols.

900
00:40:31,950 --> 00:40:32,940
Speaker 3: And they're sitting there eating it.

901
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: And all the ones eating the food that had been sacrificed start wasting away.

902
00:40:37,620 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 3: And the four Hebrew children just get stronger and stronger and stronger.

903
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,700
Speaker 3: And they're looking healthier and they're looking better and they're looking.

904
00:40:45,220 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: And everybody's sitting around going, but you're eating nothing but vegetables.

905
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

906
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

907
00:40:49,810 --> 00:40:52,420
Speaker 3: You know, hey, world, take a note, Christians.

908
00:40:54,780 --> 00:40:55,260
Speaker 5: Take a note.

909
00:40:55,570 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 5: If you do what God says, he gave us a diet that works.

910
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,660
Speaker 3: We might not like it, but it works.

911
00:41:01,420 --> 00:41:01,620
Speaker 3: Yeah.

912
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: And I mean, and I'm not, that's not prescriptive.

913
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that we have to, but I'm saying that, you know, maybe we should start doing some more of that with our scripture,

914
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 4: with our time with the scripture and our time with the word of God,

915
00:41:12,460 --> 00:41:13,900
Speaker 3: start rejecting the things of the world.

916
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

917
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:15,620
Speaker 3: Lay off the world stuff.

918
00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:16,140
Speaker 4: Yeah.

919
00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 4: And that's kind of a little bit of a theme.

920
00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if Brian will agree with me here,

921
00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: but a little bit of the theme of Revelation is that it's opposing cities.

922
00:41:26,759 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 4: It's the city of God versus the city of man, right?

923
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,140
Speaker 4: It's the Jerusalem or the new Jerusalem versus Babylon.

924
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,020
Speaker 4: Yes.

925
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:35,460
Speaker 4: Right.

926
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: And the old Babylon system.

927
00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:40,300
Speaker 4: And I believe that system is very much alive today.

928
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 4: I think we're living in the middle of it, and I think it's going to get more and more intense.

929
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,220
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.

930
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:48,940
Speaker 4: It's going to turn into some ten-nation confederacy things and ten kings, and we'll see a lot of that symbology.

931
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: But the book of Daniel is really the Old Testament version of the Revelation and tells us a lot that we need to know before we dive into Revelation, in my opinion.

932
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,300
Speaker 5: It tells us a lot about how it's going to be divided up.

933
00:42:00,340 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 4: It tells us a lot of details about what this Antichrist is going to be like because there's already been one.

934
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: There's a type of him in Daniel.

935
00:42:08,060 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 4: It's a guy named Antiochus IV.

936
00:42:10,540 --> 00:42:11,940
Speaker 4: I think it was the Seleucid Empire.

937
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,940
Speaker 4: It was one of the Greek empires that broke off.

938
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 4: This guy is the guy that went in and desecrated the temple in Jerusalem,

939
00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 4: and he's the one that Jesus warns about in Matthew 24 when he says the abomination of desolation.

940
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: It had already been done before when Jesus spoke those words, and everybody knew it.

941
00:42:28,860 --> 00:42:31,580
Speaker 4: Everybody immediately, every Jew that was listening to him,

942
00:42:31,860 --> 00:42:35,460
Speaker 4: knew that he was talking about Antiochus IV that desecrated the temple.

943
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:37,820
Speaker 4: It's going to happen again, right?

944
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,340
Speaker 4: The Antichrist is going to do this again.

945
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: And he said, when it happens, run, run for the hills, because that's when the great tribulation starts.

946
00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 4: But Daniel lays a lot of this stuff out about the world empires and one of Nebuchadnezzar's dream.

947
00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:59,580
Speaker 4: He said, you know, Babylon, the Medes and Persians and Greeks, and then the Romans, and then the revived Roman Empire.

948
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,780
Speaker 4: And that stuff comes out of the book of Daniel.

949
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 4: The book of Daniel tells us about a type of the Antichrist, this Antiochus guy.

950
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 4: It tells us about the 1260-day periods, which is three and a half years that this thing's going to be laid out in.

951
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:14,780
Speaker 4: It tells us a lot of stuff.

952
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to dig into it deep, but at some point I would really like to go into it and say, just kind of review it a little bit because it really opens your eyes a little bit to the stuff going on in Revelation.

953
00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 4: The same symbology is in Daniel that's in Revelation when it concerns the beast with the ten horns and the little horn coming up and these kind of things like this.

954
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: They're also in Daniel.

955
00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: And so Daniel kind of gives a whole world history view where Revelation focuses in on seven years and then the thousand year reign and beyond.

956
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:48,820
Speaker 3: Yeah.

957
00:43:49,380 --> 00:43:51,700
Speaker 3: Daniel is the way I've heard.

958
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,060
Speaker 3: I can't remember who it was I heard talking about it in a study one time.

959
00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 3: He said, Daniel is, if you look at it from the time of Daniel, it's kind of giving you a quick summary of what's going to happen before the end.

960
00:44:06,220 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: But then you get to Revelation, it goes, okay, I'm going to slow down.

961
00:44:08,070 --> 00:44:12,820
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you exactly at the very, very end, this is what it looks like.

962
00:44:12,850 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Daniel tells us why seven years.

963
00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 4: Why are those seven years?

964
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:24,780
Speaker 4: There were 490 years pronounced as judgment on Israel because they missed, I think they missed 490.

965
00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: Was it 49 or 49?

966
00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 4: There was a number of jubilees that Israel did not observe.

967
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,620
Speaker 4: And God lays out 490 years of punishment on them.

968
00:44:34,930 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: And he lays out the exact time that the Messiah is going to arrive.

969
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 5: This is crazy.

970
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,340
Speaker 4: It's crazy stuff.

971
00:44:41,780 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: David Jeremiah and some other guys have calculated this stuff out.

972
00:44:45,260 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: And there's a prophetic year of 360 days, and it lays out to the number, buddy.

973
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,100
Speaker 4: It goes right up to the time Jesus entered Jerusalem on Palm Sunday.

974
00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: Right?

975
00:44:55,460 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 4: It goes right up to that time.

976
00:44:56,980 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: And so he laid this stuff out for the Pharisees at the time.

977
00:44:59,860 --> 00:45:04,620
Speaker 4: The religious rulers of Jesus' day should have been reading this, but that book was sealed up.

978
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 4: At the end of Daniel, God said, seal up the words of this book until the end times.

979
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,860
Speaker 4: Well, in the last hundred years, this book has been opening up to people.

980
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 4: People have been reading it and studying it and understanding it in view of Revelation,

981
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,540
Speaker 3: and they work together like a hand in a glove.

982
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing.

983
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:23,820
Speaker 3: And that's one thing.

984
00:45:23,820 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: I think it was David Jeremiah I heard talking about, and he said, you know,

985
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,860
Speaker 3: Revelation was the key that unsealed the book of Daniel for us,

986
00:45:30,340 --> 00:45:32,780
Speaker 5: that made it very, very clear what's being talked about,

987
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: because it just didn't make any sense prior to having Revelation come along.

988
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: And prior to even Christ coming along, none of it made sense.

989
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: They were looking at it going, I don't understand.

990
00:45:41,660 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 4: What is this stuff?

991
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and, man, Daniel, a lot of liberal scholars accuse Daniel of being written much, much later

992
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: because it goes through in chapters 11 and 12 of some past events that have been just nailed.

993
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 4: I mean, he's talking about stuff like Cleopatra.

994
00:45:59,780 --> 00:46:02,780
Speaker 4: He's talking about all these world empires that have come and gone already,

995
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: and then he switches gears to the end times and what's coming later.

996
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 4: So it's just really, really powerful stuff.

997
00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:13,500
Speaker 4: And chapter 9 is one I think we ought to at least go through while we're doing this

998
00:46:13,580 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: because it lays out the number of years of judgment.

999
00:46:16,060 --> 00:46:20,420
Speaker 4: And what Revelation is is the final week or week of years it is,

1000
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:26,620
Speaker 4: the final seven years of this judgment on Israel that's shown in Daniel.

1001
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 4: Excuse me, but I don't want to get into that too deep.

1002
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: I think next week we'll probably just keep going on to Revelation to get to the churches

1003
00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 4: because that's really important.

1004
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:44,620
Speaker 4: We really need to understand these letters to these churches and why God is saying what he's saying to these churches and what's he saying to us.

1005
00:46:45,770 --> 00:46:50,100
Speaker 4: Because he's saying something to us in every one of those letters, because it's not just to a church.

1006
00:46:51,380 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: Every letter ends up being a personal thing.

1007
00:46:53,620 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: He who overcomes, I will give fill in the blank.

1008
00:46:57,100 --> 00:46:58,900
Speaker 1: He's got nothing different for every one of them.

1009
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 4: But it's beautiful stuff, beautiful stuff.

1010
00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:03,860
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, man.

1011
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 4: So many people are scared of Revelation.

1012
00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 4: Oh, it's just too scary.

1013
00:47:09,370 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 4: I just can't read that stuff.

1014
00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:11,660
Speaker 5: Don't be afraid.

1015
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: Understand, believer, you're not going to be here at the start of chapter four.

1016
00:47:17,260 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 4: You're gone.

1017
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 4: You're gone.

1018
00:47:18,860 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: You're headed to heaven, right?

1019
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 4: You're going to be face to face with your Lord.

1020
00:47:22,460 --> 00:47:28,140
Speaker 4: You're going to be in the presence of every bit of joy and peace and love you've ever imagined.

1021
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1022
00:47:29,060 --> 00:47:30,780
Speaker 5: You're standing right in front of you.

1023
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 4: And here's the thing.

1024
00:47:32,140 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: Even if we were going to be here for it, I would rather know what's coming.

1025
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1026
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: God would not have revealed it to us if he didn't want to get us ready for it.

1027
00:47:45,620 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 3: So even if we were going to be here, even if we weren't going to be taken out before it gets absolutely horrible, I would want to know.

1028
00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:54,020
Speaker 3: I would want to know what to prepare for.

1029
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,820
Speaker 3: I would want to know what to ready myself for, what to have in the back of my head.

1030
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: Hey, I've got to be willing to do this.

1031
00:47:59,980 --> 00:48:01,100
Speaker 3: I've got to be willing to die.

1032
00:48:01,180 --> 00:48:04,580
Speaker 4: What would our lives look like if he hadn't given us this book?

1033
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:05,340
Speaker 4: Hope.

1034
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:05,940
Speaker 4: Right?

1035
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: We would not know what's coming.

1036
00:48:08,070 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: We wouldn't have any clue.

1037
00:48:08,990 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 4: We'd be hopeless almost, right?

1038
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1039
00:48:11,820 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 4: But he gave us this for hope.

1040
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:16,420
Speaker 4: He gave us this to say, look, I'm wrapping this up.

1041
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 4: I'm putting an end to evil.

1042
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: It's coming.

1043
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: I'm putting a bow on this, boys.

1044
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:20,620
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1045
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1046
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: We're going to put all this in a box.

1047
00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: We're going to tie it up, and then it's just going to put right in that lake of fire, and we're done.

1048
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 4: We're done.

1049
00:48:27,860 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 4: For eternity.

1050
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:29,980
Speaker 5: Wipe my hands of it.

1051
00:48:30,020 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: no more pain, no more sorrow.

1052
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,540
Speaker 4: No more sin.

1053
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: No more death.

1054
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:34,620
Speaker 4: No more hell.

1055
00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: No more grave.

1056
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: Right.

1057
00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: Right.

1058
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,740
Speaker 3: All of it.

1059
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,100
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1060
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: I mean, he's taking all of it and just pitch it in.

1061
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:40,820
Speaker 3: Yep.

1062
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:41,300
Speaker 3: I'm done.

1063
00:48:41,780 --> 00:48:42,020
Speaker 3: Done.

1064
00:48:43,180 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: Put up with it for too long.

1065
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:47,100
Speaker 3: And I mean, that really is what happens at the end.

1066
00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:49,340
Speaker 3: God is sitting here going, you know, I've been putting up with this for a while.

1067
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,060
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1068
00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:50,860
Speaker 3: I've had it.

1069
00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 4: And it's all his sovereign will, right?

1070
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1071
00:48:54,820 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 4: And it's been ordained.

1072
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:56,900
Speaker 4: It's going to happen.

1073
00:48:57,390 --> 00:48:57,460
Speaker 4: Yep.

1074
00:48:57,500 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: Get ready for it.

1075
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 4: And get ready.

1076
00:48:59,550 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 4: If you're listening tonight, get ready,

1077
00:49:01,210 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: because things are going to get a whole lot worse than just Charlie Kirk, right?

1078
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 4: Satan's coming after us, and we need to be ready.

1079
00:49:08,830 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 4: We need to be studied up in our Bibles,

1080
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:12,460
Speaker 4: and we need to be walking with God daily,

1081
00:49:13,060 --> 00:49:14,700
Speaker 4: daily relationship with Jesus Christ.

1082
00:49:15,580 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 4: He died to give us a Father, an Abba Father,

1083
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,780
Speaker 4: and walk with Him, abide in Him, talk with Him,

1084
00:49:24,340 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: pray, pray, pray, pray, and read your Bible,

1085
00:49:27,380 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: And go to church and be with other believers.

1086
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 4: You need a support network during these times.

1087
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,300
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely.

1088
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:38,540
Speaker 3: And the thing is, even if you're not going to be here, even though we're not going to be here for the tribulation,

1089
00:49:38,780 --> 00:49:41,540
Speaker 3: for the things that are to come that we're going to be studying about very soon,

1090
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: we are going to be here for the things before that.

1091
00:49:44,980 --> 00:49:47,380
Speaker 3: Because that stuff's not going to just drop out of the sky.

1092
00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: It's not going to just, oof, all of a sudden one day the church goes away and all of a sudden things just absolutely go crazy.

1093
00:49:53,540 --> 00:49:55,060
Speaker 3: I mean, that is kind of what's going to happen.

1094
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,700
Speaker 3: But a lot of this stuff, you're going to have to have the groundwork laid.

1095
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 3: You cannot suddenly go from everything the way it is, even today.

1096
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:09,740
Speaker 3: You can't go from where we are today to the first part of the tribulation like that.

1097
00:50:11,140 --> 00:50:12,020
Speaker 3: There's groundwork.

1098
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,140
Speaker 3: There's ramp up.

1099
00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:18,620
Speaker 3: So when we say that, I'm not expecting it tomorrow, but it's very soon.

1100
00:50:19,010 --> 00:50:22,140
Speaker 3: Because that ramp up has been getting shorter and shorter and shorter.

1101
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 3: And even at the beginning, it might just be chaos from us leaving because there's going to be a time.

1102
00:50:29,260 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 3: There's confusion.

1103
00:50:29,940 --> 00:50:30,900
Speaker 3: Everybody's trying to figure out what happened.

1104
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: And then all of these things start happening.

1105
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: The deception.

1106
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: And that ramp is getting closer and closer and closer to being able to go, oh, okay, well, you can't buy or sell unless you profess what we want you to profess.

1107
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,620
Speaker 3: That sounds kind of familiar.

1108
00:50:48,820 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does.

1109
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 4: It does.

1110
00:50:51,140 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 4: That's Babylon, man.

1111
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: That sounds really familiar.

1112
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:54,340
Speaker 3: You can't buy or sell.

1113
00:50:54,340 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: You can't do these things unless you say what we tell you to say.

1114
00:50:58,850 --> 00:51:00,500
Speaker 3: You can't go out in public.

1115
00:51:00,590 --> 00:51:02,580
Speaker 3: You can't feed your kids.

1116
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:04,180
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1117
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 5: Unless you say what we want you to say.

1118
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:09,500
Speaker 3: Unless you send them to the school we want you to send them to.

1119
00:51:09,690 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1120
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: Unless you allow us to tell them what to believe.

1121
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:17,220
Speaker 3: Oh, we've decided there's enough of you still rebelling against us.

1122
00:51:17,470 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 3: We're going to make you take a mark.

1123
00:51:19,660 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1124
00:51:19,980 --> 00:51:23,020
Speaker 4: And we've seen previews of that in the last decade, right?

1125
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.

1126
00:51:23,620 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 4: Of cancel culture and this kind of thing where you've got to toe the line, buddy, or they'll

1127
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 4: take everything you've got.

1128
00:51:29,980 --> 00:51:30,340
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1129
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,100
Speaker 3: And happily.

1130
00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:32,740
Speaker 3: And now they'll just take your life.

1131
00:51:33,140 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: Yep.

1132
00:51:33,620 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 3: And now they're not afraid to just say, well, fine, we'll take your life.

1133
00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:36,900
Speaker 3: We can't get you any other way.

1134
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1135
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 4: And it's like, it's like I said on Facebook the other day.

1136
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: It's like, who are the real fascists here?

1137
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1138
00:51:42,860 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: And it's a scary, scary thing leading up to this.

1139
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,820
Speaker 3: So it's only going to get worse.

1140
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,900
Speaker 3: And here's the thing.

1141
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: We Christians have been saying this for decades.

1142
00:51:57,460 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1143
00:51:57,980 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's been decades.

1144
00:52:00,030 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 3: And when I say decades, I'm talking like World War II decades.

1145
00:52:03,279 --> 00:52:04,140
Speaker 3: We've been warning.

1146
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,740
Speaker 3: We've been saying, preachers have been saying, guys, it's going to get worse.

1147
00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:07,580
Speaker 3: It's going to get worse.

1148
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:17,540
Speaker 3: You think that we're not a single preacher in Germany prior to World War II that said, hey, guys, this is bad.

1149
00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:18,180
Speaker 3: This is real bad.

1150
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: And it's going to get worse if you don't stop.

1151
00:52:21,180 --> 00:52:22,940
Speaker 3: And everybody went, ah, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

1152
00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: And then you've got people like Billy Graham that came along telling us, y'all, it's coming.

1153
00:52:29,570 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: And it's going to get bad.

1154
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 3: And you better be ready.

1155
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: You better be ready.

1156
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 4: You better be ready.

1157
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: And we went, eh.

1158
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just numb to hearing that, right?

1159
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,260
Speaker 4: I've been saying it for so long.

1160
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 4: When is this coming, right?

1161
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,940
Speaker 4: Jesus mentioned that.

1162
00:52:43,299 --> 00:52:44,420
Speaker 4: But it's time.

1163
00:52:44,660 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 4: It's time, folks, to take this seriously because everything needed for Revelation to happen is in place right now.

1164
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,940
Speaker 4: I mean, we could go cashless tomorrow.

1165
00:52:53,310 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 4: We could be having an image of the beast that we have to worship today, right?

1166
00:52:58,190 --> 00:53:00,260
Speaker 4: I mean, it's all over the world.

1167
00:53:00,350 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 4: We could have that right now.

1168
00:53:01,940 --> 00:53:05,580
Speaker 4: We have a worldwide web surrounding us in Starlink satellites, right?

1169
00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:07,900
Speaker 4: All this stuff is in place.

1170
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:08,620
Speaker 1: It's awesome.

1171
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:11,780
Speaker 3: It's just waiting for the Father to go get my boys, go get my kids.

1172
00:53:11,970 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: You know, here's the thing.

1173
00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: It's interesting you said that.

1174
00:53:14,660 --> 00:53:18,020
Speaker 3: people are saying, well, when's it going to happen?

1175
00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: We've been hearing it for so long.

1176
00:53:19,580 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: When's it going to happen?

1177
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: Didn't Jesus say, when people start saying that, look for me to come because they've stopped

1178
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,020
Speaker 3: looking for me, because they've stopped to expect.

1179
00:53:30,340 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 3: That's when you want to really start looking.

1180
00:53:32,380 --> 00:53:33,820
Speaker 3: Isn't that what Jesus told us?

1181
00:53:33,980 --> 00:53:34,180
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1182
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:35,220
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1183
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 4: And he's coming like a thief too, right?

1184
00:53:38,220 --> 00:53:39,420
Speaker 4: People won't expect it.

1185
00:53:39,740 --> 00:53:40,060
Speaker 4: Bang.

1186
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:40,820
Speaker 4: There he is.

1187
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:42,260
Speaker 3: And there's a reason for that.

1188
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,380
Speaker 3: There's a reason for that.

1189
00:53:43,580 --> 00:53:48,500
Speaker 3: It's because he knows when it reaches the point that so many people are going, he's not coming.

1190
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:49,580
Speaker 3: He's not real.

1191
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,940
Speaker 3: He knows that when he reaches that point, I've reached everybody that I'm going to reach without getting extreme.

1192
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,620
Speaker 3: Because let's be honest.

1193
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 3: Again, the tribulation is still part of God's grace.

1194
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,140
Speaker 3: And you don't have to go through it.

1195
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:03,660
Speaker 4: You do not have to go through it.

1196
00:54:04,060 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: It's his last ditch effort.

1197
00:54:05,860 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 4: And if you're listening to this after the rapture's happened, you know the rapture happened because you will know it.

1198
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:11,820
Speaker 4: There'll be a lot of people missing.

1199
00:54:12,060 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: Me and Brother Tyler and Brother Brian will be three of them.

1200
00:54:14,420 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 4: We're gone.

1201
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: We're out of here.

1202
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 4: If you're listening to this after that, man, turn to him.

1203
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:20,820
Speaker 4: It's not too late.

1204
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,100
Speaker 4: You can still accept him, but do not take the mark.

1205
00:54:24,580 --> 00:54:25,220
Speaker 4: It's going to be hard.

1206
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,180
Speaker 4: Do not take the mark.

1207
00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:28,380
Speaker 3: You die for it, but do not take the mark.

1208
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:29,380
Speaker 3: It's going to be hard.

1209
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: It's going to be very, very hard because the Holy Spirit goes with us.

1210
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:32,820
Speaker 3: Right.

1211
00:54:33,140 --> 00:54:33,980
Speaker 3: You're not going to have that.

1212
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:35,780
Speaker 3: You're not going to have that comforter that we got.

1213
00:54:36,359 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: It's going to be hard.

1214
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,100
Speaker 3: Do it anyway.

1215
00:54:39,580 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1216
00:54:40,259 --> 00:54:41,540
Speaker 3: Turn away anyway.

1217
00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 3: Because it's eternity versus seven years of a lot of pain and a lot of suffering.

1218
00:54:47,140 --> 00:54:51,820
Speaker 3: But you're going to have seven years of pain and suffering whether you go to Christ or not at this point.

1219
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,460
Speaker 3: So do you want seven years of pain and suffering or do you want eternity of pain and suffering?

1220
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,580
Speaker 3: Because at that point, that's exactly the option God has given you.

1221
00:55:00,700 --> 00:55:05,020
Speaker 3: He's saying, look, I'm making it hard for seven years because I want you to miss it for eternity.

1222
00:55:05,420 --> 00:55:10,980
Speaker 3: I want you to have peace and perfection and amazing, beautiful things for eternity.

1223
00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:19,540
Speaker 3: and again all of it all of it genesis to revelation is about the great mighty awesome

1224
00:55:20,540 --> 00:55:28,260
Speaker 3: mercy and grace of our god yeah and he wants us with him that's just really where it goes you know

1225
00:55:28,460 --> 00:55:34,540
Speaker 4: like like adam and eve before the fall he wanted to be with them exactly and he wants to be with

1226
00:55:34,580 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: you. And so we ask you, if you're not saved, get saved. Just make that decision. It's a step of

1227
00:55:41,540 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: faith. Tell Jesus that you believe in him. Ask him to come in. Put your faith in him. That's all

1228
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,380
Speaker 3: you got. I mean, it's not difficult. You don't do anything. He's already done all the work.

1229
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: You put your faith in him and just do what you know you're supposed to do.

1230
00:55:57,220 --> 00:56:04,540
Speaker 3: Come on. It's not difficult. Do that. And Christians, tell people, tell people, tell

1231
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: tell people because it's coming soon yeah we don't want our loved ones to go through that mess

1232
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:15,980
Speaker 3: we're so close to the end yeah and i i want to see it i want to see all i i'm telling you that

1233
00:56:16,530 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 3: that statement by by charlie kirk's wife is still just boy that tore me up yeah i want heaven to be

1234
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: crowded yeah i want it to be overflowing i want it to be yeah let's do it christians there's no

1235
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 4: reason for us not to. And I keep thinking lately about Barabbas, you know, the thief or the zealot,

1236
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 4: whatever he was that, you know, the crowd chose him instead of Jesus. And Jesus ended up dying

1237
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 4: in Barabbas's place. Right. Well, the name Barabbas is comprised of Bar, which is son of,

1238
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 4: And Abbas, which is father, he's literally the son of a father.

1239
00:57:02,590 --> 00:57:03,500
Speaker 4: He has no name.

1240
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:04,660
Speaker 4: Wow.

1241
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,940
Speaker 4: And every one of us is the son of a father.

1242
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:13,100
Speaker 4: He died in my place and he died in your place.

1243
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,060
Speaker 4: And every one of us is Barabbas.

1244
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: We're all unworthy, nasty, filthy, undeserving.

1245
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:24,700
Speaker 4: And he died in our place.

1246
00:57:28,540 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: what are you waiting for?

1247
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: Amen.

1248
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 3: Why are you not telling Christians?

1249
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: Why are you not telling everybody?

1250
00:57:34,180 --> 00:57:35,700
Speaker 3: We should be shouting this from the rooftops.

1251
00:57:36,060 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1252
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:37,940
Speaker 3: I'm ashamed.

1253
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: I am honestly ashamed that I haven't told nearly as many people as I should

1254
00:57:42,420 --> 00:57:42,540
Speaker 3: have.

1255
00:57:42,820 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1256
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:46,460
Speaker 3: That I've given up opportunities when I could have looked somebody in the eye

1257
00:57:46,540 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: and said,

1258
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,580
Speaker 3: do you know who Jesus is?

1259
00:57:49,660 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: Are you saved?

1260
00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:53,620
Speaker 3: Do you know if you died today where you would spend eternity?

1261
00:57:54,420 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1262
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,420
Speaker 3: and God's called us to do it.

1263
00:57:59,660 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: Let's work towards making heaven crowded.

1264
00:58:01,890 --> 00:58:02,020
Speaker 3: Amen.

1265
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 4: Brother Dennis, will you pray us out?

1266
00:58:04,820 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 4: Yes, sir.

1267
00:58:05,780 --> 00:58:07,300
Speaker 4: Father in heaven, thank you so much.

1268
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: Thank you for the hope that you've given us with these prophecies.

1269
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: Father, we lean on them.

1270
00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:15,580
Speaker 4: We lean on your promises.

1271
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:18,300
Speaker 4: We lean on the hope that you've given us in your promises.

1272
00:58:18,430 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 4: And we know that as God Almighty, your promises never fail and they never will.

1273
00:58:24,580 --> 00:58:26,980
Speaker 4: Father, thank you for your presence in our lives.

1274
00:58:27,020 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 4: And Father, I pray for anyone that might be listening that doesn't realize that they are a Barabbas, that Jesus died in their place.

1275
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,420
Speaker 4: Father, that they would come to that realization.

1276
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 4: Father, that they would be saved.

1277
00:58:39,460 --> 00:58:40,620
Speaker 4: Father, don't let them sleep tonight.

1278
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,900
Speaker 4: Father, bug them and bother them for their eternity's sake.

1279
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 4: And I know that you've given everything that heaven has to offer for that person, for every person that doesn't believe.

1280
00:58:52,620 --> 00:58:58,940
Speaker 4: And Father, for those that do believe, I pray for your protection, your comfort, your peace

1281
00:58:58,940 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 4: and joy during these days that you would help us to keep our eyes focused on you.

1282
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 4: Like Peter that got out of the boat, so often we start looking at the world around us and

1283
00:59:09,740 --> 00:59:10,620
Speaker 4: take our eyes off you.

1284
00:59:10,620 --> 00:59:14,780
Speaker 4: And Father, forgive us and help us to get our eyes back on you where they belong with

1285
00:59:14,780 --> 00:59:19,700
Speaker 4: a focus on eternity to what really matters in the spiritual realm that's what's really

1286
00:59:19,940 --> 00:59:20,060
Speaker 4: real.

1287
00:59:20,820 --> 00:59:24,540
Speaker 4: Father, thank you for this time, and I pray your blessings on everyone listening.

1288
00:59:24,650 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 4: In Jesus' name, amen.

1289
00:59:31,180 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: Special thank you to Carter Pridmore, Brian Harris, Waverly Henderson, Tatum Harris-Spears,

1290
00:59:37,570 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 3: and Josie Partain for our theme song, Truth Set Me Free.

1291
00:59:41,540 --> 00:59:43,580
Speaker 3: I've been Tyler Goza on production and audio.

1292
00:59:44,190 --> 00:59:47,620
Speaker 3: We hope you can join us live next Monday at 6 p.m. Central.

1293
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening.