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And welcome back this week. It is so good to be back and have everybody with us and have these two gentlemen with us tonight.

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Where?

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These two guys.

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Brother Dennis, how are you doing tonight?

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Doing good, man.

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Doing good.

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I've got some of those first world problems.

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I've got my pool closed today.

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Buddy, I'll tell you what.

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I freely admit to being a wimp with cold water, but that's down to 65 now.

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Yeah.

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And it hurt to get in there.

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I've been trying to warm up all day.

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So everything's good.

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Oh, good.

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Glad to hear it.

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How about you, Brother Brian?

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How are you doing?

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Doing good.

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Doing good.

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I got the, uh, Nicole was off today and had the grandbaby.

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And so I got to come home to her for a little bit.

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Oh, awesome.

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I don't know if y'all knew I had a grandbaby.

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I did not realize that.

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Totally missed it.

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Totally missed it.

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Oh man.

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Uh, well, uh, today we're going to dive in pretty quick.

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I don't want to take too much time, uh, because, uh, we got a lot of important stuff to talk

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about with the next church and the letters in Revelation 2.18 is where we'll be starting

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out tonight.

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But I did want to point out real quick, I thought it was kind of interesting this week.

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I found out that there was a teacher in Tennessee just got fired and is, of course, suing for

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First Amendment violation.

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They fired her for some Facebook posts.

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One post was criticizing the decision to lower the flags after Charlie Kirk died.

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And the other post was a repost of another one that said it was talking about it was ironic that Charlie Kirk spent his entire life disparaging immigrants, disrespecting women and blaming black folks, only to get shot in one of the whitest places on earth.

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And a lot of people have been kind of split on this because, you know, a lot of conservatives are real quick to go, well, should have read your employment contract and realize you can't post what you want to on social media and keep your job.

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And, of course, now all of the progressive people are saying, but free speech.

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And I'm like, this is what we warned you about for the last 15 years when this was going on.

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And we had, well, when I was in school and I pointed this out to somebody, I said, I was in school when teachers were told you're not allowed to share your faith in the classroom.

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You're not allowed to talk about it.

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You're not allowed to reference it.

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You're not allowed to pray.

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You're not allowed to.

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I was in school at that time.

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I remember when that was cut off at Sylvania High School.

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I remember because we had a monitor come from the state and sit in our school halls and make absolutely certain that not one teacher ever said anything about their faith.

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And they would get fired.

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Like, I remember this happening.

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And our stance then is the same stance we should have now.

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School is an arm of the government.

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The government doesn't get to censor speech.

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And I'm sorry if it's not a call to violence or something like that.

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You don't get to fire them.

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Now, and assuming it's not actually causing problems.

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Now, that is different if, for example, some of the people have been terminated because they got up in front of their class and said this stuff.

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This woman posted it on her Facebook page while she was sitting at home by herself.

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Like, there was nobody from the school.

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She didn't even make it public.

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It was a private post to friends only.

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It was not something she went out there and went on a rant in front of her class.

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And I'm like, yeah, I don't like what she said, but we really have to have that consistency, Christians, because if we're going to stand up and say yes to this, when they then turn around and come at us for what we say on Facebook, what we say on YouTube, what we say in our churches, we're not going to have much room to talk because we created the situation.

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So we have to be careful about that. If it's not something that is a direct call for violence or the very, very, very, very short list of illegal things in America to spread online. There's a list. It does exist. And they are horrible, horrible things. And if you get caught with it, good luck for the jail time you're going to get for it, I hope.

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But at the same time, when it comes to us, we don't want them coming after us.

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And so that's why I've had a few people ask me a couple of times why I only do the live stream through the audio only live stream and then the video on Rumble.

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And it's because I control the server that our audio is going through right now.

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So I know nobody's going to shut it down unless our provider shuts it down.

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But I can actually spin up another one.

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It's not that big a deal.

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And then Rumble, I mean, Chris Pavlovsky, who owns Rumble and runs it, he's left money on the table.

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Because he was told, if you don't censor what people say, you can't come to France.

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And he went, then Rumble doesn't exist in France.

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If you don't censor what people say and only allow the people we say to allow in our country, you can't come to Brazil.

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And he said, then it doesn't exist in Brazil.

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That's a big group of people in Brazil.

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And that massive ad revenue down there.

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And he just went, fine, Brazil's out.

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And he walked away from China.

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He's walked away from three or four countries like that.

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And, hey, that that is something to to to honor.

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So people have asked about that.

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That's why that's why we're on there.

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That's why that's where I do the live stream is I'm hoping to encourage people make use of the one that says, hey, look, if you're not doing something illegal, I'm just going to leave you alone.

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Yeah. Keep keep keep your clothes on.

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Don't don't show any pictures you're not supposed to show and don't do anything illegal.

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And I don't care.

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And so we're good with this one.

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I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's why we do that.

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And I'm taking a zone for sure.

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Yeah, well, you know, I didn't know.

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I want to remind you guys, you're not allowed to take your shirts off on here.

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You might get in a little trouble.

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I might boost ratings, though.

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Good, yeah.

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Yeah, boost some ratings a little bit.

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I would break my camera, you know, whatever.

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Because I am a shape.

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Oh, but that is something I did want to throw out there,

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just to kind of let people know, let's be careful about that, Christians.

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Let's be very cautious about the things that we're championing and that we're up.

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I know it hurts our feelings.

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I know we're upset a little bit about some of the stuff people are saying.

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Let's be careful where we draw that line.

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The political pendulum always swings back the other way eventually, right?

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So we've got to be careful.

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You've got to keep it so that when it swings, you're not getting knocked off.

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We've already seen times where Christians have been accused of hate speech,

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and Charlie Kirk certainly was.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And it's ugly.

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It is.

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And that's where the world's going.

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Sure it is.

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Sure it is.

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And speaking of where the world's going, that's when we're talking about Revelation.

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That's right.

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Very quickly.

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I did.

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You pointed out the verse from Thessalonians earlier.

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You know, we're talking about the fact that, hey, the peace deal over the Middle East, over in Israel and in Gaza,

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The people that were taken that were still alive, now they understand that they have – the reason somebody actually asked today, and I didn't realize this, why were there no women being returned today?

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It was all men.

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And it's because they had already returned all the women who were still alive.

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Like that was a previous arrangement that they had made.

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They had basically convinced them, hey, send the women that are still alive back.

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And they did.

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So all that was left today were just the men that had not been killed yet.

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Thank the Lord.

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Unfortunately for that, a bunch of Palestinian prisoners who were had done very, very horrible things.

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Some of them also got to go home as part of the deal.

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So I didn't care for that part of it.

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But, hey, sometimes in politics, you got to take the good with the bad a little bit.

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And so that deal, as good as it is and as nice as it is to know that we're going to have peace.

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Why don't you read that?

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It comes out of First Thessalonians chapter five.

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And it says, verse 2,

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For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.

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While they are saying peace and safety,

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the destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with a child,

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and they will not escape.

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Now, I also made the comment that peace and safety is not going to come at the end of the tribulation.

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This is pre-tribulation stuff.

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And as much as I'm for peace and safety,

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This is a sign that we need to be watching out for that when they start saying peace and safety, Hades could break loose.

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And this could be a signal of the rapture.

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Now, I'm not saying this is it.

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No.

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I'm not saying this is it.

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It's not today.

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It's not tomorrow.

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We don't know.

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We don't know.

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But it's a sign, right?

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We see the storm clouds gathering.

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We see the lightning popping all around us.

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We know we're close.

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Yeah, and true peace will not come until after the tribulation is over and evil is finally defeated for good.

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I mean, and there'll be a thousand years of peace and safety after the tribulation, and then there'll be another battle that it'll just be one-sided.

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But he'll take care of it for good then.

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But we'll get to that.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah, we'll get to that.

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We're going to get back to chapter two.

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But I did want to point that out because that is something as we are going through this.

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I mean, when we say it's coming, it's coming, it's close, it's close, it's close.

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It's this kind of stuff that we're talking about.

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Look, we don't know how this deal over there is going to work.

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It may last for the remainder of the current administration's time in office and then immediately fall back apart just like it did last time.

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Or this may be something that lasts longer.

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And if it lasts longer, that's when we really need to be watching close because they're going to get real comfortable and they're going to start, like you said, they're going to say, oh, look at the peace.

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Look at the peace.

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And it's like, oh, that's great.

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But are we ready?

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Are you ready?

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And these prophecies are centered around Israel.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Yeah, sure they are.

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The whole tribulation is around Israel.

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Keep your eye on Israel.

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Yeah, watch them closely.

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And the thing to remember is when you start seeing this stuff, are you ready?

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Are you ready?

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Are you ready? Because you do not want to be left here for the tribulation.

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When the rapture happens, you want to be going up.

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You want to be one of the people that goes with him because being left, what's coming after that is going to make everything that's happened in the last 20, 30 years on this planet look like a walk in the park.

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I mean, it's going to be it's going to make everything you've experienced, no matter how bad, look absolutely like a summer camp almost.

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So as we dive into this, we left off last week.

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Revelation 2, 17 was the last verse we read.

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The one who has an ear had better hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

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To the one who conquers, I will give him some of the hidden mina,

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and I will give him a white stone, and on that stone be written a new name

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that no one can understand except the one who receives it.

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And we pointed out last week that that is the new name given to us by Christ,

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And later on, it's going to talk about the name that he has on him that is his name that we will also know as well, his new name.

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But then that leads us into we're picking up with 2.18.

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So I want to read 18 and 19 together.

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But I want to say this, too.

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Right now, we're still in the church age in the book of Revelation.

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So we've got another chapter to go.

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Now, after chapter three, we will see the church in heaven in chapter four.

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And then we'll see, you know, that's after the tribulation has taken place.

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And then the church is in heaven.

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And then tribulation here on this earth will start.

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But we're still in a church age right now.

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He's speaking to the churches.

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If your Bible's got red letters, it's all over it right now.

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This is completely Jesus talking to us.

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So I'm going to read 18 and 19 together and then discuss a few of the things that are mentioned in verse 19.

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Well, both verses, but verse 18 says,

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And unto the angel of the church of Thyatira write these things, saith the Son of God,

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who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like unto fine brass.

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I know thy works and charity and service and faith and thy patience and thy works and the

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last to be more than the first.

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eyes like in the flame of fire, his feet are like in the fine brass.

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And so we've got a description of some judgment.

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There's some judgment that's about to take place right here.

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But before he gives out his judgment, he gives another commendation to this church.

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And he talks about five different things.

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One of those things he mentions twice.

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Excuse me, but he mentions five different things here to this church at Thyatira.

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And the first one that he mentions is works.

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He says, I know thy works.

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James 2.18, Yea, a man say that he has faith and hath not works.

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Show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.

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Right.

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Right?

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So works is important.

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Absolutely.

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For a Christian, isn't it?

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Absolutely.

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What you really believe comes out in your mouth and your actions, right?

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It does.

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That's just the way it's supposed to work.

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And just to hold on to a religiosity where all you've got is works.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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Just doing stuff to impress people.

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That's right.

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And that's not what we're going for.

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But this may be a little bit where they're headed, right?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And they've got to be careful here because it cannot be all works, right?

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But your faith has got to be shown by your work.

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Right.

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You know, we can't just say, well, you know, I've got Jesus and I'm saved and that's good and I'm going to heaven and that's all there is.

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I'm going to sit here and wait on him.

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I'm just going to live the way I lived before.

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Yeah, that's just the way I am.

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Yeah.

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His power is transforming.

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It is.

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It is the Holy Spirit.

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Well, and it's supposed to transform you. And the interesting thing there, that's the one where you said, you know, he points that out twice. I know your deeds. And then he said, in fact, your more recent deeds are greater than your earlier ones. And so he's really commending them for working. But, you know, that's one of the things that we do have to remember and that Paul warns us against. Like, hey, look, you start depending on works too much. What are works if there is no grace?

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The works are meaningless.

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If there's no grace or if the works are more important, then the grace becomes meaningless and the grace is what saves you.

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So what do you do with that?

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And Paul, we've talked about that here on the show before.

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But this is one of those areas where Christ does that shows God absolutely wants us to work.

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He's telling them, hey, good job.

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I'm so proud of you for doing these things.

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If it's real, it comes out.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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It does.

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It shows what's inside of you.

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is going to come out, like you said.

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The second thing that he mentioned there is love.

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And even though this was kind of a ritualistic church,

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they were loving people.

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They were loving towards other people.

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And so he commends them for loving people.

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And as a church, we've been called to do that, right?

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I mean, the three things that remain are faith, hope, and love, right?

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And love is the greatest of all those things.

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So that's what we got through that.

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And you mentioned that in your sermon Sunday, Matthew 25.

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Yeah.

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How are we judged by our love?

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It's by the things that we've done.

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Jesus says, he said, da-da-da-da, where is it?

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I'm going to find it here in a second.

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He said, for I was hungry and you gave me something to eat.

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I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink.

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I was a stranger and you vied me in naked and you clothed me.

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I was sick and you visited me.

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I was in prison and you came to me.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's those things.

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Those are the works that go where our heart really is.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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And that's the love he's looking for us to give to other people.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Well, and that very verse goes on to say where they ask the king and they say,

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when have we done these things for you?

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When have we ever done this?

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When have we seen you hungry?

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When have we seen you wanting or needing?

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And he said, if you've done it to the least of these, you've done it to me.

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Yeah, it's personal.

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And that's exactly what God's telling us in that is, look, what you do to others,

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you're doing to me.

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Yeah.

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And it's almost like we're going along and we're just doing this thing because it's instinctively inside of us, right, through Jesus.

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I mean, that's what I get when they're saying, oh, I didn't even realize I'd done this.

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You know what I'm saying?

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They're like, wait a minute, Jesus, when did we do this?

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And he's like, when you were doing your job, when you were doing what you were supposed to do, when you were living out your faith and doing what I called you to do, you were loving people.

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You were loving me.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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So that's how we love him.

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the third thing is faith we talk about works and we talk about faith faith faith that produced

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works and love right that's what that's what came from their faith and i and i think that's where our

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works are the good works that we do and the love that we have it comes from our faith doesn't it

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yeah uh uh ministry uh or service right uh he that he he told them he said your charity and

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in your service uh he said he said i see those things i see what you're doing your patience the

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endurance in those days of darkness there was a lot of darkness going on around them and he said

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you know hey he said i i see it i see what's going on there i see i see what you're doing

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uh and then again he he mentions uh works and and how how his work those works have increased

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isn't that crazy that that uh this is going to be end up being one of the one of the worst letters

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yeah to the church it's going to be one of the yeah whooping their back kind of letters and he's

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man what a combination that sounds like the perfect church starting out don't it yeah and it's like he

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was just saying okay let me get these things out of the way these are the things you're doing right

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but hang on hang on just a second well and that that i think is probably where

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Sure. You know, we've talked about how these these letters are so important to the modern church.

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They're there to us and to us as individual Christians as well.

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I think that's where a lot of churches end up dropping the ball.

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They take a look. They take a step back.

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They look at what they're doing and what they have going on.

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And they say, oh, man, look at us. We're working.

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We've got faith in the church. And, man, we're showing up.

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We're faithful to be here every Sunday and every Wednesday night and every Sunday night.

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and all the kids things and the revivals and the this and the that.

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And they're doing all of these things and they get so focused on the works and they're

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showing love to people, man.

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They're just inviting anybody that wants to come in.

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Come on in, have a seat with us, have a good time.

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Just have it.

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Just sit right down here.

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We're going to make you comfortable on the front view.

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We're going to make you feel like you're one of the family.

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And all of those are things we're supposed to do.

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But they get so caught up in that and so caught up in looking at that and so caught up in

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people do we have and what's the number this Sunday versus last Sunday? Did we see the number

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go up or did it go down? Oh, do we have thousands of people in the church and they get focused on

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that? Their hearts get left off to the side and get ignored. And then the next thing you know,

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it's like, man, how did this church just fall apart? Well, I mean, here's the thing. If you got,

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let's say you got a soup kitchen and you feed 500 people this Saturday and you didn't share the

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gospel with one of those people, but you gave them plenty of soup.

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You filled their bellies up, but you didn't fill their hearts.

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You're missing the boat.

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You're missing the point.

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Well, this is like secular organizations, right?

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Single any out really.

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Kind of like a Red Cross type thing.

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In the arms of an angel.

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They do some fabulous things that look like they could just be great for the kingdom of

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God, but there ain't no gospel in it.

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That's right.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you can adopt a buffalo.

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Well, this does kind of remind me, too.

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I mean, we'll get to it later on, but it does look like, you know, remember that there's an 80-20 rule.

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Yeah.

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There's 20% of the church doing 80%.

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80%, maybe even 100%.

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Yeah, I would say 90%.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But there's this little remnant in there that's doing all this stuff, most likely.

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That's right.

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Yeah, right.

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Well, and that's the thing.

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Again, when you go on and we get into what they were actually doing, it's like, oh, yeah, I can kind of see why some of the world was in there.

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Yeah.

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They were being told that all these things were okay that weren't okay.

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And that's what we have to be careful with as the church and as individual Christians.

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You can be going out and doing all these great and wonderful works,

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but if you're never sharing the gospel, if you're never telling anybody like you were saying,

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if your preacher's getting up on Sunday morning and never picks up a Bible,

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and let me tell you something, I want to point out that I have been to churches in this area

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where Sunday morning preacher gets up, walks onto that stage.

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And I was like, okay, once or twice, maybe something was going on.

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And he just had something he needed to talk to the church about.

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And he quoted some scripture or whatever,

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but he never actually opened up the Bible

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and started just really going to the scripture out of it.

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He would maybe quote a verse and then the rest of it was just talking.

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And I thought, well, okay, one time, yeah, whatever.

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Because I'm not going to judge a church or a pastor on one sermon.

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All right, let me be clear about that.

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But then I go back, and after about the second or third time setting foot in the church, and it's the exact same thing every single time, what you said, turn around and run.

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Time to get out of there.

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Absolutely.

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Read verse 20 from your...

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Verse 20 is, but I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess,

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And she teaches and leads my bond servants astray so that they commit acts of immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.

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This Jezebel character.

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Now, we know that this is not literally a woman named Jezebel.

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Yeah.

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It's a type.

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It's kind of like John the Baptist was a type of Elijah who was to come.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So it's kind of the same thing as a type.

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But you go back and look at the story of Jezebel and see what this woman was like.

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She was raunchy.

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She was.

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Yeah.

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She was a consort of Ahab, wasn't she?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The wife of Ahab.

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But her goal in life was to stamp out Judaism, stamp out what was later to be the gospel.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just killing priests and doing all kinds of vile things and introducing Baal worship into Israel.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Ugly stuff.

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And she brought in false doctrine and rituals, such as she was the one who brought in the whole purgatory thing into the Roman Catholic Church.

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Yeah.

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That came from her, you know.

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And, boy, what a messed up thing that is to believe that you can actually go into a place called purgatory.

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We're not going to call it hell.

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We're not going to call it you're going to be burning in flames or, you know, but we're going to say you're going to go to purgatory.

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And you're going to suffer there for a while.

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But then depending on how bad you are, eventually you'll come out.

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Yeah, if we can pray out with enough masses.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And that's interesting, too, because I was reading up on this,

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and a lot of scholars believe that this church age, that's Thyatira.

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I always want to say Thyatira.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Kind of corresponds with the Roman Catholic Church in the Middle Ages,

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right before the Protestant Reformation,

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Where they really started introducing this worship of Mary.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And it was really idolatry saying you've got to go to Mary to get forgiveness.

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Right, yeah.

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That kind of stuff.

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So that kind of corresponds a little bit with this Jezebel idea.

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Yeah.

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And, you know, now if you talk to a person of the Catholic faith

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and you talk to them about the whole Mary thing, you know,

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why do you pray to Mary?

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Why do you pray to the saints?

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That kind of thing.

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What they're going to tell you is, and this makes it even more ridiculous.

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I'm sorry, but it's the truth.

479
00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:09,500
What they're going to tell you is, well, it's like if you were a really, really busy guy and you weren't married, but you had a lot going on.

480
00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:12,540
And we wanted to talk to you, but you weren't available.

481
00:26:13,220 --> 00:26:17,440
So we went and talked to your mom so that your mom could tell you when she's seeing you.

482
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,440
That's their explanation.

483
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,800
I've heard Catholic priests explain it that way.

484
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:34,120
And same thing about your saints that you're praying to, that type of thing.

485
00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:37,080
In other words, Jesus is too busy.

486
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,500
He's got too much going on.

487
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:39,820
He's very not too busy.

488
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:40,680
Yeah, right.

489
00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:41,980
Yeah, I mean, come on.

490
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,080
But, I mean, it's just like we're going to spread this out,

491
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,680
and Jesus has got some help here.

492
00:26:47,380 --> 00:26:54,940
Not that he is omnipresent or anything, you know, but he hears it all and knows it all.

493
00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:57,000
But he needs some help.

494
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:57,740
No, he doesn't.

495
00:26:57,810 --> 00:26:58,960
He doesn't need my help.

496
00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,900
He doesn't need your help.

497
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:04,160
You know, it's a dangerous thing to call her the mother of God, as some of them refer to her.

498
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:11,900
And all through the Gospels, Jesus is not ever recorded as calling her mom or mother or mama or mommy or anything like that.

499
00:27:11,950 --> 00:27:12,700
He calls her a woman.

500
00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:13,420
Yeah, yeah.

501
00:27:14,260 --> 00:27:18,420
Until he tells John he's hanging on the cross and he tells John, your mother.

502
00:27:18,740 --> 00:27:18,860
Yeah.

503
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,620
This is your mother.

504
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:20,040
That's right.

505
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:20,620
That's right.

506
00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:20,940
Yeah.

507
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,120
She was a vessel.

508
00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:24,760
And I don't want to take anything away from Mary.

509
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:31,720
I mean, Mary was to be picked by God himself.

510
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:32,800
Huge.

511
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,000
You know, to be that type of woman.

512
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,500
But she was not sinless.

513
00:27:36,940 --> 00:27:37,000
No.

514
00:27:37,420 --> 00:27:39,400
You know, she was not free from sin at all.

515
00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:48,620
But to be that type of woman where God would choose you to carry, you've heard it said this way, she was the first one to carry the gospel, and that's the truth.

516
00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:50,900
Yeah, I love that.

517
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:58,600
Yeah, I mean, she was a great piece in the gospel story.

518
00:27:58,860 --> 00:28:00,640
Right, and blessed among women.

519
00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:01,540
She knew it.

520
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,840
Absolutely, absolutely.

521
00:28:03,340 --> 00:28:09,480
And I don't think Mary, if Mary was alive today and she heard this and people were praying to her,

522
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:12,980
and she's like, oh, no, no, do not pray to me.

523
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:14,180
You cannot pray to me.

524
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:16,260
Pray to my son, right?

525
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,800
I mean, pray to him.

526
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,740
But she was a vessel.

527
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,000
That's what Mary was.

528
00:28:22,380 --> 00:28:30,000
She was a vessel that God used to bring himself to be born as a human into this world.

529
00:28:30,180 --> 00:28:31,100
Yeah, exactly.

530
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:39,420
Well, and I started to say, too, you know, they view Mary as being some kind of a way to get a message to Christ.

531
00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:42,640
But they also view the saints, right?

532
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,540
The saints are, well, they've been given a job.

533
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,500
They have this one area of responsibility.

534
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:52,040
It's not that you can go to just pray to any of the saints for any old thing.

535
00:28:52,540 --> 00:28:55,880
You got to go pray to them about their area of responsibility.

536
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,100
Because Jesus, he's just so busy.

537
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,320
He's got so much going on.

538
00:29:00,460 --> 00:29:04,340
He's letting this one handle this, and he has this one over here to handle.

539
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,900
If somebody's dealing with a demon or Satan's really coming against him,

540
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,840
that's Michael's job.

541
00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:10,180
Michael's going to come and fight for you.

542
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,440
And if this person's dealing with this, you're going to go to them.

543
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:16,940
And if you're a firefighter and you want to pray for somebody to protect you,

544
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,520
you're a firstborn, there's a saint for that.

545
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:20,920
And you go pray to that saint, and he's going to step in

546
00:29:20,940 --> 00:29:23,060
because that's what his whole job is.

547
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,560
And I'm sitting back going, so you believe that these saints can be omnipresent

548
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,540
and go to all of these places simultaneously at the exact same moment.

549
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,360
You don't believe Jesus can.

550
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,240
Yeah, it's ridiculous.

551
00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:33,380
Are y'all out of your minds?

552
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,420
I mean, come on.

553
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,400
No one comes to the Father but by me.

554
00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:36,860
That's right.

555
00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:37,480
That's right.

556
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,180
Amen.

557
00:29:38,540 --> 00:29:39,760
It's the only argument you need.

558
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,820
You only get to God by going to God.

559
00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:42,760
Yeah, absolutely.

560
00:29:43,679 --> 00:29:52,280
And, you know, I like that thought that this is the Catholic Church during the Middle Ages.

561
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaking about here, because, yeah, that's exactly where you see that church really starts going off into left field.

562
00:29:59,660 --> 00:30:04,520
is during that time period is when they start departing very heavily from.

563
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:16,460
And look, I will admit absolutely when the Catholic Church says that they were basically what came out of the original spreading of the gospel.

564
00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:17,660
They are.

565
00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:28,740
They are the church that came out of that at that time that absolutely can trace their lineage all the way back to Paul and to Peter and to all of them.

566
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:31,460
Because absolutely, they were from that part of the world.

567
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:37,860
They were founded there in that area out of these conglomerations and these different groups all kind of came together.

568
00:30:37,940 --> 00:30:38,920
And that's absolutely true.

569
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,920
But they weren't the only ones.

570
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,800
And the problem is.

571
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,240
And they were just the biggest at the end of the day.

572
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,060
And they were the biggest.

573
00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:50,600
And then you get to the Middle Ages, though, and where I was going with that.

574
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,100
They start introducing exactly the stuff it's talking about here.

575
00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:55,580
They start teaching indulgences.

576
00:30:55,820 --> 00:30:59,740
They start teaching, oh, we're going to keep ourselves sexually pure,

577
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,600
but we're not going to talk about what they're actually doing once you close the doors in there

578
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,860
and what's really going on where nobody can see it.

579
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,760
But we're not going to get married.

580
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Yeah.

581
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,420
I guess you're ignoring when Paul said, hey, look, if you can't just refrain from sex, get married.

582
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,020
Better to marry than to burn.

583
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,880
Well, this takes it all back to Jezebel, right?

584
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,820
She's famous for corruption, for idolatry, for leading God's people astray.

585
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,280
And that's exactly what was happening during that age.

586
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,860
And here's the thing.

587
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:39,900
They'd really started going astray right off the bat because, I mean, he wrote this whole book of Hebrews to explain to them that you don't need a high priest.

588
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,100
There's no need for a high priest because we've got Jesus, and he is our high priest.

589
00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:45,560
Yeah.

590
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:51,140
And he gave this hierarchy and this order that this is how it goes, right?

591
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,260
Yeah.

592
00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:53,080
And Jesus is top tier.

593
00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:53,900
That's it.

594
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,840
Hey, let me throw out some – this might get us fired.

595
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,300
Oh, boy.

596
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:00,500
No.

597
00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:06,460
You know, these churches, I believe, represent certain ages throughout the church age.

598
00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:06,760
Yeah.

599
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,780
And I believe this one's right before the Protestant Reformation.

600
00:32:10,980 --> 00:32:13,260
The Catholic Church has just gone in the weeds.

601
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,420
I mean, just bad.

602
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,820
and people are suffering because of it.

603
00:32:17,540 --> 00:32:19,740
I believe this church is today too.

604
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:20,580
Yeah.

605
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,660
A type of this church around today.

606
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:23,300
Sure.

607
00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:28,640
And are there Jezebels running churches today?

608
00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:31,440
Yeah.

609
00:32:32,660 --> 00:32:33,060
Absolutely.

610
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,060
Absolutely.

611
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:42,040
Is female leadership – how many audience members do we want to lose here?

612
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,160
If we lose them over this, then let's go with it.

613
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,780
Let's go with it.

614
00:32:48,020 --> 00:32:53,580
You know, the Bible's pretty explicit that women are not to hold a position as a pastor.

615
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,020
Yeah.

616
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:54,600
Yeah.

617
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,120
Explicit about that.

618
00:32:56,340 --> 00:32:56,460
Yes.

619
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,920
And I believe a lot of churches today just completely disregard that.

620
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:01,200
Yes.

621
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:08,240
And we see churches that are hierarchy, you know, that they have a superintendent or they'll have a bishop or they'll have all these different people.

622
00:33:08,380 --> 00:33:13,800
and women, a lot of liberal women, hold positions of power in a lot of churches.

623
00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:14,280
Yeah.

624
00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:16,400
And you see those churches going into the weeds.

625
00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:16,980
That's right.

626
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:17,660
That's right.

627
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,100
Do you think that's related to this message, T-Rod?

628
00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:24,040
I think it probably could be.

629
00:33:24,340 --> 00:33:25,960
I think it very well could be.

630
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:35,200
I think if you look at where that starts, listen, it's not that women are not godly.

631
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,720
That's not to say that women are not godly.

632
00:33:37,860 --> 00:33:41,280
Not to say that women have a place to teach in the church.

633
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:48,620
And we've got some of the godliest women in our church I've ever met in my life and some that are steeped in the word of God.

634
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,100
Yes.

635
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,900
But this is the way God designed it.

636
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,160
Right.

637
00:33:53,380 --> 00:34:00,540
He designed men to be in that leadership position and to be in that position of authority in the church.

638
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:06,200
not to rule over, but just like he talks about in the marriage, right,

639
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,659
that we are to be the spiritual leader of that marriage,

640
00:34:11,179 --> 00:34:15,879
and we are to love them with a sacrificial love like Christ loves the church.

641
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:19,540
And when things are in order like they're supposed to be,

642
00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:23,240
then the Spirit is free to do what the Spirit needs to do, right?

643
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,760
There's nothing hindering it.

644
00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:28,840
And when that takes place, and I don't care if it's in a marriage,

645
00:34:29,179 --> 00:34:32,280
I don't care if it's in a church or wherever it may be.

646
00:34:32,929 --> 00:34:37,500
But when when in a lot of times it's because men have not stepped up.

647
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,040
Right.

648
00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:38,679
Right.

649
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:39,820
Yeah.

650
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,000
There's a void there.

651
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:47,899
And there's a there's a woman that had to fill that void in some way and ended up in a place where she probably shouldn't have been.

652
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,580
And things start going south at some point in time.

653
00:34:50,879 --> 00:35:00,500
And again, I'm not saying that, I mean, there's so many women out there that I know that are as conservative as conservative can be,

654
00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:06,020
not only in their political views, but in their religious views and their biblical views.

655
00:35:07,140 --> 00:35:16,780
But what happens a lot of times in that position, and I don't know if it's because of just the way that God has made them,

656
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,920
the emotional part of it or what it may be.

657
00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:23,160
But what ends up happening is they end up going left.

658
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:24,820
And we've seen it.

659
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,440
I don't care.

660
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,880
We can sit here and name denominations if we wanted to,

661
00:35:29,380 --> 00:35:33,420
that we saw go left because they've ended up in those positions,

662
00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:34,980
in those leadership positions.

663
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:41,640
And then, you know, to start with, it may be a woman who is married to a man.

664
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,760
Then you open the door.

665
00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:56,580
A lot of times where it may be a single woman or it may be a now we see a lesbian woman in which, you know, there's churches out there letting gay men and women in.

666
00:35:57,550 --> 00:36:02,580
But it just opens up that door and it continues to take a dive.

667
00:36:03,010 --> 00:36:08,280
And let me clarify, letting gay men and women into positions of leadership, not just into the church.

668
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:08,980
No, no.

669
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,400
Yeah, specifically into positions of leadership.

670
00:36:11,820 --> 00:36:15,280
And I was going to say, and now this is not to discount.

671
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,980
Yes, there have been churches, I'm sure, in the past that something happens.

672
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,660
They either lose the pastor or the pastor, you know, maybe passes away or something like that.

673
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:37,660
And for a time, some woman steps up to kind of help keep everybody straight for a little bit until somebody else can get in there and take over for them because maybe the church didn't have the leadership.

674
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,880
Things like that.

675
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,660
It would be only if there wasn't a man.

676
00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:41,060
Exactly.

677
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,820
That's what I started to say.

678
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,600
Things like that can happen if you have none of the men doing what they're supposed to do and stepping up and taking care of things.

679
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,600
And there is no leadership group and there are no leaders in the church.

680
00:36:51,220 --> 00:36:52,140
Things like that can happen.

681
00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:53,560
And that's not what we're talking about.

682
00:36:53,800 --> 00:37:04,520
Somebody stepping up and stepping in for a short, brief period of time until you can get somebody in to do the job that God called them to do in the way God called them to do it.

683
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:14,040
Again, Paul goes back to his letter to Timothy where he talks about Timothy's mother and grandmother and how they taught him right.

684
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:19,900
And they were his main teachers because there was apparently no man in his life doing that until guess who came along?

685
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:20,340
Paul.

686
00:37:20,980 --> 00:37:28,820
And then Paul comes along and they immediately said the impression I get from reading that letter is that they went, oh, look, somebody to teach you.

687
00:37:29,340 --> 00:37:30,200
He's your problem now.

688
00:37:30,370 --> 00:37:32,280
And they just kind of went, we're not supposed to be doing this.

689
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,200
And they stepped aside.

690
00:37:34,220 --> 00:37:41,900
That's where you can tell the difference is, is it somebody taking over for a season just until they can get things where it needs to be?

691
00:37:41,980 --> 00:37:44,440
Or is it somebody actually trying to take over and take control?

692
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,640
I don't think the Bible's explicit that they should not be in the pulpit.

693
00:37:47,820 --> 00:37:48,100
Oh, yeah.

694
00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:48,420
Oh, yeah.

695
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,020
Absolutely.

696
00:37:49,580 --> 00:37:49,920
Absolutely.

697
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:50,820
The matter step up.

698
00:37:50,860 --> 00:37:51,000
Period.

699
00:37:51,220 --> 00:37:51,320
Yeah.

700
00:37:51,460 --> 00:37:57,960
And the reason I went down this rabbit trail is because this church at Thyatira was founded by a woman.

701
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,340
It was founded by Lydia.

702
00:37:59,620 --> 00:37:59,720
Yeah.

703
00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:01,100
A seller of purple.

704
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:01,620
Yeah.

705
00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:03,960
It was about her in, I believe, in Acts.

706
00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:31,220
Yeah. And maybe this kind of kept going as female leadership somehow. Yeah. I don't know. We don't know. Yeah. Well, and that's where I go where if it had been the way it should have been, she may have founded the church. She may have gotten it started, but she should have immediately after getting this thing going, been like, OK, we need somebody to come in and let a man come in and take over for it again. Not because he's going to lord over him, but because that's what men are called to do. We're called to lead.

707
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,680
And it's just what God called, right?

708
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:40,920
I mean, if it comes to the point that it has to be a woman in the pulpit, then I think shut the doors of the church and let the church go somewhere else.

709
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,420
Yeah, absolutely.

710
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,220
But we do see this example in verse 20 in today's churches.

711
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,940
Like you're saying, we see them just drifting off to the left.

712
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:50,920
Yeah, yeah.

713
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,480
Hard left.

714
00:38:51,580 --> 00:38:55,460
And there's I think it's Allie Beth Stuckey that wrote a book called Toxic Empathy.

715
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:05,340
And I just thought it was a fascinating title because people want to be so known for love and empathy that they go too far with it, way too far.

716
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Right.

717
00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:09,420
And you start to stand behind things that you should be against.

718
00:39:09,860 --> 00:39:10,060
Right.

719
00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:10,500
Right.

720
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:11,060
Absolutely.

721
00:39:11,420 --> 00:39:18,960
You know, you even see it in a lot of Christian speakers that I feel like have started out for the right reason.

722
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,000
And I'm talking like women's conference speakers and people like that.

723
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:31,920
And not that all of them do this, but a lot of them, I think, end up with this Jezebel spirit.

724
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:32,580
Yeah.

725
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:46,760
I think they end up with this Jezebel spirit and end up speaking in a position where they should not or overstepping their bounds in a place that they should not.

726
00:39:46,980 --> 00:39:47,160
Yeah.

727
00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:58,780
I mean, I go back to, I mean, Beth Moore, man, was, I mean, if you were in the Baptist church, Beth Moore was the name for the women's conferences and women's books and all that.

728
00:39:58,980 --> 00:40:01,200
But towards the end, guess what Beth did?

729
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:05,580
Beth went off her rocker, you know, and went out and left field.

730
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,380
And, you know, you got to be careful.

731
00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:19,800
And again, she started going from speaking to women and trying to guide them into being the godly women that need to be.

732
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,220
Which I think is good.

733
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,440
Which is what she should be.

734
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:21,860
Absolutely.

735
00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:22,480
Absolutely.

736
00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:23,240
Need to do that.

737
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,520
Men and women need to be speaking.

738
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,240
Women need to be talking to the younger women and guiding them.

739
00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:28,540
Men need to be talking to younger men.

740
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:28,920
Right.

741
00:40:29,220 --> 00:40:34,240
But she went from that into being exactly what we were just talking about, a leader.

742
00:40:34,540 --> 00:40:34,620
Yeah.

743
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,860
And she became a thought leader and a spiritual leader in a way to the churches.

744
00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:43,040
And she didn't hurt.

745
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:43,680
I'm sorry.

746
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:49,960
She should have immediately when she realized, hey, I'm starting to be looked at as though I am a pastor, as though I am a leader.

747
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,940
And she should have immediately gone, hey, guys, by the way, that's not what I'm doing here.

748
00:40:54,140 --> 00:41:01,380
And but she wasn't in a place that where she needed to be to humble herself and go, hey, this is not my job.

749
00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:10,780
And I'll notice that in verse 20, it says you tolerate that woman, Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess.

750
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,220
So in other words, she's not a prophetess called by God.

751
00:41:14,590 --> 00:41:23,940
She says she calls herself a prophetess and by her teachings deceives my servants to commit sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols.

752
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:34,000
I mean, right there it is that when somebody steps up into these positions, it's are they called or are they calling themselves?

753
00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:38,460
Because if you are not called, you don't need to be taking the position.

754
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,580
And even if you are called, you've got to stay humble.

755
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:52,780
And what happened in this church to get her in that position, to get her in that place where they started saying, oh, OK, well, maybe, you know, maybe she can be here for, you know,

756
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,320
Maybe she can take part in this.

757
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,360
Maybe she now we'll let her do this.

758
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,320
Now we'll let her do that.

759
00:41:57,620 --> 00:42:03,220
And that's where that Jezebel spirit began to creep in and it began to cause issues.

760
00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:03,780
Yeah.

761
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,000
And I think of every time I think of Jezebel, I think about she she was the wife of the king.

762
00:42:09,380 --> 00:42:09,520
Yeah.

763
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:10,080
Yeah.

764
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,260
She didn't have power.

765
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:11,780
That's right.

766
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,180
Right.

767
00:42:12,260 --> 00:42:16,600
But she influenced him and dominated him to the point where she was getting whatever she wanted.

768
00:42:16,860 --> 00:42:17,020
Absolutely.

769
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:17,460
Right.

770
00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:19,360
And we see that in churches today.

771
00:42:19,540 --> 00:42:19,920
Oh, yeah.

772
00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:22,200
Pastor's wife just dominating the whole church.

773
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:22,500
Yeah.

774
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,280
Yeah, absolutely.

775
00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:27,280
We got to watch this stuff because it's like them.

776
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:36,020
We got so many churches today that have been led astray to commit acts of immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols, which really is just compromise with the world.

777
00:42:36,340 --> 00:42:36,440
Yeah.

778
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,140
It's compromise with the world's ideals and their actions and everything that the world stands for.

779
00:42:41,140 --> 00:42:43,480
And we end up having a church that looks just like the world.

780
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,060
It does.

781
00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:44,860
Yeah, absolutely.

782
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,920
Got nothing to offer.

783
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:46,400
Yeah.

784
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,640
And well, and I started to say, you want to know how she got that power and kept it.

785
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,040
Look what she was leading them astray to do.

786
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,020
She was deceiving them to commit sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols.

787
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,080
That's how she got her power.

788
00:43:00,380 --> 00:43:01,420
That's how she got to keep it.

789
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,280
She stepped up there.

790
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,920
She started saying, hey, guys, you know what?

791
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,480
It's okay.

792
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,620
It's okay if you want to do this.

793
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,760
It's okay if you want to do that.

794
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:09,400
Oh, you want to have two or three wives.

795
00:43:09,460 --> 00:43:10,700
You want to sleep around on your wife.

796
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,500
That's okay.

797
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:13,420
Y'all just go ahead.

798
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,620
God's not going to judge you for that.

799
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,600
Remember, we are free.

800
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:24,240
I've heard people in today's modern Christian groups saying stuff like that.

801
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,260
And I'm sat back going, no.

802
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:42,340
Another thing that was happening during this church age, too, in the Middle Ages with the Roman Catholic Church was that this was the time, excuse me, when they started believing that the bread and wine served at communion was the literal blood wine.

803
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,200
And it diluted the finished work of Christ.

804
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,540
Yes, yes, absolutely.

805
00:43:45,820 --> 00:43:47,780
It takes away from what Jesus did on the cross.

806
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:48,500
That's right.

807
00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:49,000
That's right.

808
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:49,300
Amen.

809
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:49,800
Amen.

810
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,580
And there's no doubt, and I've talked about it before when we do communion,

811
00:43:55,420 --> 00:43:57,780
there's no doubt that communion is a spiritual thing.

812
00:43:58,380 --> 00:44:03,580
Communion is a time where the Holy Spirit of God, I believe,

813
00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:07,660
connects with us and communes with us in that way.

814
00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:11,660
But no, the blood, the wine does not become the blood.

815
00:44:11,790 --> 00:44:13,740
The bread does not become the body of Christ.

816
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,320
No, that's hocus-pocus stuff.

817
00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:18,680
It is.

818
00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:19,580
Yeah, it is.

819
00:44:19,980 --> 00:44:22,360
Yeah, which is Jezebel.

820
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:42,520
Well, and, you know, that's the thing is the if you if you've ever studied a whole lot of the Catholic Church and how and where a lot of their teachings come from and where they lead to, you realize that they began adopting these pagan practices.

821
00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:52,900
And so that the water into wine, for example, was an adoption of the pagan ideals of this transmutation and the ability to do these mystical things.

822
00:44:52,940 --> 00:45:01,620
They started adopting that because it allowed them to then draw in some of these pagans into their ranks and into coming to church.

823
00:45:01,740 --> 00:45:05,320
And they were like, see, we can bring them in by adopting their ceremonies and adopting it.

824
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,020
And it's like, but it's exactly what you said.

825
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:08,700
Compromise.

826
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:14,040
You're compromising the word of God in order to be more attractive to the world.

827
00:45:14,110 --> 00:45:25,620
The whole point is, I mean, the fact of the matter is, if the word of God is so offensive to someone that they turn away, I'm sorry, that's not on us to fix.

828
00:45:26,110 --> 00:45:36,080
Because it means that person is so far gone and so far into the world that nothing is going to get their attention until God has to do something to get their attention.

829
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,080
They weren't rejecting us or this church.

830
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,080
They've rejected Jesus.

831
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:39,720
Yeah, exactly.

832
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,520
And that's where, yeah, you study anything about the Roman Catholic Church,

833
00:45:45,590 --> 00:45:48,440
you realize their connections to even the modern Catholic Church

834
00:45:48,510 --> 00:45:50,740
and the connections to Islam and some of these other things

835
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,620
and the connections they had to Babylon and to the teachings from there.

836
00:45:55,180 --> 00:45:55,980
It's terrifying.

837
00:45:56,110 --> 00:45:56,940
And like you say, it does.

838
00:45:57,010 --> 00:45:58,780
It starts right here.

839
00:45:58,980 --> 00:46:00,440
This is how it gets going.

840
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,760
And it gives you a picture, and we'll get into this later,

841
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:09,340
But there's going to be a huge movement in an apostate church during tribulation.

842
00:46:10,180 --> 00:46:14,760
And for a long time, I thought, well, this may end up being the Catholic church,

843
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:18,460
and the pope could end up being that spiritual leader that's used,

844
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,000
that false leader that's used for that time.

845
00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:22,320
I don't know that now.

846
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,160
I don't know.

847
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,360
I'm not convinced of that either.

848
00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:27,460
You know, that was my thought process for a while.

849
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,380
I think it's going to be whatever false religion is the most attractive at the time.

850
00:46:32,380 --> 00:46:32,780
I think so.

851
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:34,380
And humanistic.

852
00:46:35,070 --> 00:46:42,160
Yeah, because I don't know that the Catholic Church has the hold that it used to have 30, 40, 50 years ago even.

853
00:46:42,190 --> 00:46:46,180
Well, that was the whole Tower of Babel and Babylon story, right?

854
00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:48,600
It was the great achievements of humanity.

855
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:49,320
Right, yeah.

856
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:49,580
Right.

857
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,180
Man, we're all about that in the world today.

858
00:46:52,450 --> 00:46:53,460
Sure, yeah.

859
00:46:54,380 --> 00:46:54,840
It's ugly.

860
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:55,500
Absolutely.

861
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:03,360
So verse 21, Jesus gave her time to repent, and she does not want to repent of her immorality.

862
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

863
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:05,860
Amen.

864
00:47:06,430 --> 00:47:06,540
Amen.

865
00:47:06,860 --> 00:47:08,760
Man, he's so patient.

866
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:09,460
He is.

867
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,340
And faithful, even to the worst of us, right?

868
00:47:12,220 --> 00:47:13,760
Remember the story of Pharaoh.

869
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,040
He had 10 chances to repent.

870
00:47:16,460 --> 00:47:17,860
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

871
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,060
He does that so often.

872
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,100
And what is it?

873
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:27,220
Was it Peter that said he's not slack concerning his promises or something to that effect?

874
00:47:27,260 --> 00:47:27,360
That's right.

875
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,880
Patient wanting everyone to come to a knowledge of the world.

876
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:29,980
Amen.

877
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:30,340
Amen.

878
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:31,420
He does, doesn't he?

879
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:31,880
He does.

880
00:47:31,900 --> 00:47:32,920
He loves us that much.

881
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:33,360
That much.

882
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,800
That's why he's waiting, right?

883
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,220
Yeah.

884
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,180
I mean, that's why he's waiting now.

885
00:47:38,540 --> 00:47:46,479
That's why he waited 120 years for Noah to preach the gospel to this group of people that was around him all the time because he was having –

886
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:50,580
He wanted to see more than just Noah's family get on board,

887
00:47:51,020 --> 00:47:53,640
but that's not what ended up happening.

888
00:47:54,650 --> 00:48:01,400
But I think today that he tarries because he wants the gospel to continue to go out.

889
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,320
But, man, when you get to that next verse, this is, ooh.

890
00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:12,040
In verse 22, behold, I will cast her into a bed,

891
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,860
and them that commit adultery with her, which is this church,

892
00:48:17,780 --> 00:48:22,620
them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation,

893
00:48:23,260 --> 00:48:24,960
except they repent of their deeds.

894
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,720
So he's telling them, he says, your church, even though you got a form of love,

895
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:37,820
but it's not agape love, even though you got some works and you believe in some things,

896
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,020
Listen, it's not based solely and completely on me.

897
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,240
And you will be the church, Thyatira.

898
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,100
You will be the church that will head into the great tribulation.

899
00:48:51,340 --> 00:48:57,160
You'll be the church that when the rapture takes place, you'll still be having church next Sunday.

900
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,760
You'll have the door.

901
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,120
But we're missing anybody, right?

902
00:49:00,140 --> 00:49:00,560
Right.

903
00:49:00,860 --> 00:49:01,040
Yeah.

904
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,280
Oh, man.

905
00:49:02,420 --> 00:49:07,860
Well, and this is amazing to me that he says that he's going to throw them into this terrible suffering.

906
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:18,500
He's going to throw them into the great tribulation and explicitly said at the beginning, your later works are greater than the ones you did at the beginning.

907
00:49:18,860 --> 00:49:18,980
Yeah.

908
00:49:19,180 --> 00:49:27,160
This is after they were already completely smitten by this false prophetess coming in and leading them astray.

909
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:33,200
They were already participating in these things and their later works were greater than the first.

910
00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:45,340
He was saying that the works you're doing are these great things, but you're going to be here when everybody else is gone because your heart's never actually changed.

911
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,660
You never actually repented of your sins.

912
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,640
You never actually turned from your wicked ways.

913
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:53,460
I bring it up all the time.

914
00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:54,920
Go and sin no more.

915
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,600
They never did that step.

916
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,560
They did all the stuff leading up to it, but they never did the step of go and sinning no more.

917
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:17,000
And it is terrifying to me to think that you can be doing the work that Christ considers good and right and still not be where you need to be.

918
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:17,440
That's right.

919
00:50:17,540 --> 00:50:19,340
And this is not individual people.

920
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,600
This is his church as a whole.

921
00:50:20,780 --> 00:50:20,860
Right.

922
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:21,580
They're safe.

923
00:50:21,820 --> 00:50:24,120
They're going to be safe people among this church.

924
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:24,420
Right.

925
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,580
There's a remnant in there.

926
00:50:25,940 --> 00:50:27,900
But that church as a whole, guess what?

927
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:30,080
Going to be open for business after the rapture.

928
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,100
And this goes back to what Dennis was saying earlier.

929
00:50:34,859 --> 00:50:39,540
There's all kind of secular organizations out there that do a lot of good stuff.

930
00:50:39,740 --> 00:50:40,600
Really good stuff, yeah.

931
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:44,500
I mean, we could name some things right here that probably make a lot of people mad.

932
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:53,800
But there's some organizations out there that take care of physical needs.

933
00:50:54,060 --> 00:51:12,400
They take care of all kind of different things that, you know, as far as feeding the hungry, as far as hospitalization, as far as all these different things that they can help you with and they can help you, your children with, you know, these miracle foundations and all these different things.

934
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,780
And, you know, and a lot of them are not faith based at all.

935
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:17,140
Right.

936
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:19,280
But they're still doing good stuff.

937
00:51:19,340 --> 00:51:20,080
But guess what?

938
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,300
Those people that are running those things, if they're not saved, if they don't know Jesus,

939
00:51:25,980 --> 00:51:29,260
they'll be running that thing the week after the tribulation's gone, right?

940
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,060
They'll be trying to help all these people as all hell's breaking loose.

941
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:33,980
Right, right.

942
00:51:34,780 --> 00:51:35,220
Right.

943
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:39,740
And 23 gets even worse, right?

944
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,060
Yeah.

945
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,320
And I will kill her children with pestilence.

946
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:46,300
And all the churches will know that I am he who searches the minds and hearts,

947
00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:48,640
and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds.

948
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:49,480
All right.

949
00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:51,340
Where's that loving Jesus?

950
00:51:51,660 --> 00:51:51,760
Yeah.

951
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:52,180
Yeah.

952
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:52,680
Yeah.

953
00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:52,980
Right.

954
00:51:53,140 --> 00:51:53,840
He's love.

955
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:54,780
Make no mistake.

956
00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:55,320
That's right.

957
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:57,480
He is absolutely love, but he's also justice.

958
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:57,960
Yeah.

959
00:51:58,140 --> 00:52:03,100
And he's telling them, he says, he says, look, not only the ones that started this thing,

960
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:10,180
but, but now you have brought up a generation up under her wing and up under her system.

961
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,940
And because you have brought them up, that's all they know.

962
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:14,300
Right.

963
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,520
That's all they know is false.

964
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:16,340
But guess what?

965
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,600
Not going to save them.

966
00:52:17,660 --> 00:52:19,700
They're going into the tribulation, too.

967
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:20,880
I'm going to kill them, too.

968
00:52:21,420 --> 00:52:23,780
And their blood is on your hands.

969
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,760
That's hard, right?

970
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,640
That is so hard to think the responsibility that we have on the gospel.

971
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:30,680
Yeah, yeah.

972
00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:31,740
With the truth.

973
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:32,960
I mean, you think about this.

974
00:52:32,980 --> 00:52:33,800
You think about it.

975
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,560
I mean, this should resonate with mom and dads out there.

976
00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:38,080
Yeah, absolutely.

977
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:52,640
Get your butt in church in a good Bible-believing, Bible-teaching, Bible-preaching church that is going to disciple you and disciple your kids because their blood will be on your hands one day.

978
00:52:52,680 --> 00:53:12,780
If you're raising your children right now in a home where mom and dad, excuse me, are not building that base of that home and on the bedrock of Jesus Christ, if he's not the chief cornerstone and you've got them out there thinking it's, you know, we got we got better things to do on Sunday.

979
00:53:13,060 --> 00:53:13,200
Yeah.

980
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,200
What do we see at the ball field other than hundreds of people at a soccer field?

981
00:53:17,380 --> 00:53:17,500
Yeah.

982
00:53:17,980 --> 00:53:18,780
Nothing wrong with it.

983
00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:19,000
Nothing wrong.

984
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,040
Nothing wrong with it.

985
00:53:20,220 --> 00:53:26,760
But if you're prioritizing soccer or football or baseball over the word of God, you're you're killing your kid.

986
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,020
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Literally killing your kids for eternity.

987
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:38,600
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And guys, your kids are going to be without excuse to write because they're going to stand before the Lord individually.

988
00:53:39,060 --> 00:53:45,800
But guess what? You're going to you're their blood's going to be on your hands, too, because you have led them that way.

989
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,180
You have allowed them to go.

990
00:53:48,540 --> 00:53:51,860
You didn't teach them any truth, and you let them just go do what they want.

991
00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:53,220
Well, I want my kids.

992
00:53:53,540 --> 00:53:55,220
I've heard parents say this before.

993
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:01,160
You know, I'm going to raise my kids where they can decide whether or not they want to go to church.

994
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,800
Not in the Harris house.

995
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,160
They need to have drug from.

996
00:54:06,260 --> 00:54:06,900
You ain't kidding.

997
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,560
They can go to church.

998
00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:09,680
Yes, absolutely.

999
00:54:10,140 --> 00:54:11,900
You ain't got a choice.

1000
00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:14,560
Now, my kids are grown, and they're out of church now.

1001
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:17,020
And if they decide to get out of church, it's on them, you know.

1002
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,020
But I raised them to be in church.

1003
00:54:20,180 --> 00:54:22,020
I raised them to be part of the church.

1004
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,340
And there was no question.

1005
00:54:24,620 --> 00:54:26,820
On Sunday morning, we're going to church.

1006
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,700
Because you're grounding them in the truth.

1007
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,160
Yes.

1008
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,200
Grounding them in the truth.

1009
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,840
And don't forget, too, that people talk a lot of smack about prayer in schools.

1010
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,000
But where's the prayer in the home?

1011
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:36,540
That's right.

1012
00:54:36,820 --> 00:54:36,880
Yeah.

1013
00:54:37,220 --> 00:54:38,560
It's the Bible study at home.

1014
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:38,920
Yeah.

1015
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,580
And would that have even happened?

1016
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:49,520
Would we have let her win that legal battle if men and women of God had really been where they're supposed to be?

1017
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:49,640
Exactly.

1018
00:54:51,300 --> 00:55:03,520
I mean, she would have been a livestock if our country and our parents and the people who were in charge at that time were in the place where they needed to be with the Lord.

1019
00:55:03,580 --> 00:55:04,060
Absolutely.

1020
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:05,280
Absolutely.

1021
00:55:05,780 --> 00:55:06,080
Absolutely.

1022
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:34,680
And I started to say, too, on that, not only are the parents who didn't take your kids, and if you're a Christian, I want to reiterate that, if you're a Christian parent and you are more concerned about your child playing sports, doing academically well in school, if you are more concerned about those things than getting them to church, the Bible makes it abundantly clear.

1023
00:55:34,740 --> 00:55:37,300
that that is on you.

1024
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:40,560
What happens to their soul is on you.

1025
00:55:40,740 --> 00:55:42,280
You will be judged for it.

1026
00:55:42,820 --> 00:55:44,500
And yes, they stand on their own.

1027
00:55:44,740 --> 00:55:45,700
You will be judged for it.

1028
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,720
But I also want to throw out a warning there.

1029
00:55:48,820 --> 00:55:52,900
That's why it is so, so, so vitally important

1030
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,640
for any young person that happens to be listening

1031
00:55:55,820 --> 00:55:57,740
not to be unequally yoked.

1032
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,780
Because while it's on you, guess what?

1033
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,019
If you think for one second

1034
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:08,580
that every single lost person out there today that never took their kids,

1035
00:56:08,780 --> 00:56:10,460
that never pushed their kids to go,

1036
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:12,700
that in fact tried to leave their children away,

1037
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,780
if you think the judgment for that is going to be any less severe

1038
00:56:18,340 --> 00:56:22,520
than somebody who was saved and knew better than being lost

1039
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:25,940
and having heard and rejected and taking your kids along with you,

1040
00:56:26,780 --> 00:56:30,039
that's going to be just as bad of a judgment on them

1041
00:56:30,060 --> 00:56:37,700
because, I mean, goodness, I cannot imagine trying to draw my children away from church.

1042
00:56:38,180 --> 00:56:43,080
And I literally have watched parents do that sometimes intentionally because they've rejected

1043
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,620
it and they want to drag their kids straight to hell with them, which is horrible.

1044
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:52,420
But I've also seen parents do it unintentionally because they are so concerned about, I want

1045
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,220
my kid to get into this college or this ball program or this whatever.

1046
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,820
And I'm like, goodness, you can gain the whole world but lose their soul.

1047
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:02,700
And that's where you're headed with it.

1048
00:57:02,890 --> 00:57:13,860
I mean, if it's a safe person that does that, I think the worst punishment that you're going to get is to watch your child stand at the great white throne of judgment and be cast into a lake of fire.

1049
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:14,580
Absolutely.

1050
00:57:15,210 --> 00:57:18,080
You know, and I don't know what that scene is going to look like.

1051
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:23,660
We can we can dramatize it and we can and we can imagine what it might be like.

1052
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,920
I'm sure they'll be kicking and screaming and all the things.

1053
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,360
But, you know, you can't even imagine.

1054
00:57:31,580 --> 00:57:33,300
Like, this is final, right?

1055
00:57:33,460 --> 00:57:36,180
I mean, you're never going to see your child again.

1056
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,700
And they're going to be gone forever in hell, in a lake of fire.

1057
00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:46,000
Now, God can still save the kid, right?

1058
00:57:46,140 --> 00:57:46,480
Yeah.

1059
00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:47,520
Oh, absolutely.

1060
00:57:47,740 --> 00:57:49,740
But the chances are small.

1061
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:50,700
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1062
00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:52,580
It gets smaller and smaller.

1063
00:57:52,660 --> 00:58:00,260
If that child dies, if that child dies under what you brought them through, that child's headed for hell.

1064
00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:00,880
Yeah.

1065
00:58:01,340 --> 00:58:01,440
Right.

1066
00:58:02,180 --> 00:58:05,120
If it's reached the age of accountability, let me say that.

1067
00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:05,480
Yes.

1068
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:06,900
To be clear.

1069
00:58:07,060 --> 00:58:07,360
Yes.

1070
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,040
Yeah.

1071
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:15,020
Verse 24, he kind of goes back a little bit to, but he says,

1072
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:20,200
But I say to you, the rest who are in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching of Jezebel,

1073
00:58:20,380 --> 00:58:23,000
who have not known the deep things of Satan, as they call them,

1074
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:24,700
I have no other burden on you.

1075
00:58:24,940 --> 00:58:25,540
Yeah, yeah.

1076
00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:29,380
So in other words, back to what we said, that's the remnant, right?

1077
00:58:29,540 --> 00:58:30,060
That's the remnant.

1078
00:58:30,860 --> 00:58:33,960
There are a few who are not practicing this.

1079
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:35,940
There are a few who have not agreed to this.

1080
00:58:36,060 --> 00:58:40,800
There are a few who are really, truly saved and know Jesus and want to follow Jesus.

1081
00:58:40,860 --> 00:58:44,140
And I love that he says, I do not put any additional burden on you.

1082
00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:46,800
I'm not imposing any other burden on you.

1083
00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:49,020
You're already rejecting and doing what I've called you to do.

1084
00:58:50,020 --> 00:58:52,900
I love the New English translation of that verse.

1085
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:59,880
All those who do not hold to this teaching, who have not learned the so-called deep secrets of Satan.

1086
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,500
By the way, and I have to throw this in here.

1087
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:14,720
When you hear somebody talking about the deep secrets that they're going to teach you,

1088
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,700
I don't care if they're holding a Bible in their hand when they say it.

1089
00:59:19,030 --> 00:59:19,220
Yeah.

1090
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,100
You run from that.

1091
00:59:22,370 --> 00:59:36,800
That is a purely mystical, humanistic, magical, paganistic view of having these secrets that are within secrets, that are within secrets, that are within secrets, and you're learning these deep secrets.

1092
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:46,440
If you're part of some group of people that says the deeper you go, the more secrets you learn, turn around and run.

1093
00:59:46,540 --> 00:59:52,200
There are organizations like that, and there are a lot of church people that are members of organizations like that.

1094
00:59:52,270 --> 00:59:52,860
Yeah, yeah.

1095
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,540
And that's not good.

1096
00:59:54,820 --> 00:59:58,820
And I'm thinking of one in particular, and I know –

1097
00:59:58,900 --> 00:59:59,780
Masonic Lodge.

1098
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:00,020
Yeah.

1099
01:00:00,020 --> 01:00:02,980
That's the one I'm thinking of specifically.

1100
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:06,800
And I know there are good Christians that have been part of that, that have been involved in it.

1101
01:00:07,180 --> 01:00:08,020
But it seems innocent.

1102
01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:09,660
It absolutely does.

1103
01:00:09,820 --> 01:00:14,820
But if you talk – if you actually talk to the people, more than likely not at your local lodge.

1104
01:00:15,110 --> 01:00:15,200
Yeah.

1105
01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:16,440
All right, let me be clear about that.

1106
01:00:16,940 --> 01:00:20,880
they're not going to generally speaking especially in this part of the country the ones around here

1107
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,160
they don't have a clue yeah all right but if you actually talk to people that are higher up that

1108
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:30,240
have gone deeper that have learned the deep secrets that have learned the thing it gets

1109
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,720
absolutely not just terrifying yeah disgusting yeah what they actually teach what they actually

1110
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:42,599
believe and what the people at the top believe and what they push if you ever hear anybody that's

1111
01:00:42,620 --> 01:00:46,980
been there and done that and gone through it and you realize what all groups in the country are

1112
01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:52,040
connected to that at the top levels it's like oh man there's a whole bunch of groups that i just

1113
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:58,640
want to stay away from moody post and put out a book about them uh years ago john ankleberg i think

1114
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:05,260
was uh he he wrote it uh yeah and it was from two guys who had actually come up through the ranks and

1115
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:11,279
uh again yeah i know a lot of good people and a lot of good questions who are involved in it but uh

1116
01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:15,380
But on another level, it's not scary stuff.

1117
01:01:15,660 --> 01:01:17,440
Yeah, your brotherhood's in the church.

1118
01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:18,280
Yes, absolutely.

1119
01:01:18,430 --> 01:01:24,020
Yeah, and I think who he's talking about, you know, the commendation,

1120
01:01:24,220 --> 01:01:26,280
he's telling them, hold fast until I come.

1121
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:28,440
I think he's talking about that group in verse 19.

1122
01:01:28,820 --> 01:01:29,500
Yeah, yeah.

1123
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,660
I know your deeds, your love, faith, service, perseverance.

1124
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:33,820
Right, yeah, yeah.

1125
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,820
That's that 20% or 5% or whatever they are.

1126
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,320
Absolutely.

1127
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,380
And when you look at, and I know we're running out of time.

1128
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:45,140
I know it's 704, but verse 25 says,

1129
01:01:45,460 --> 01:01:50,140
But that which you have already hold fast till I come.

1130
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,280
In other words, he's coming to get the true church.

1131
01:01:52,740 --> 01:01:53,720
That's what he's telling them.

1132
01:01:54,020 --> 01:01:54,480
Hold fast.

1133
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,760
He's talking to the church, and it's close right here.

1134
01:01:58,260 --> 01:01:59,760
I mean, because he's telling them these things,

1135
01:02:00,340 --> 01:02:02,200
and he's speaking to us today,

1136
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,120
and we've got one more chapter where we're going to finish up these churches,

1137
01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:08,940
And then boom, the Lord's coming back.

1138
01:02:09,060 --> 01:02:09,460
We're gone.

1139
01:02:09,980 --> 01:02:10,580
We're out of here.

1140
01:02:10,660 --> 01:02:11,140
Come up here.

1141
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,020
Come up hither.

1142
01:02:12,220 --> 01:02:12,660
Let's go.

1143
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:13,300
Let's do it.

1144
01:02:13,340 --> 01:02:13,960
That's right.

1145
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:14,380
That's right.

1146
01:02:16,140 --> 01:02:16,700
Can we just finish this?

1147
01:02:16,700 --> 01:02:18,140
Yeah, let's finish this with a little bit.

1148
01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:26,280
And he that overcometh and keepeth my works until the end, to him will I give power over the nations.

1149
01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:30,440
So 1 Corinthians 6 and verse 2 says,

1150
01:02:30,740 --> 01:02:35,180
Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world?

1151
01:02:35,780 --> 01:02:41,680
And if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

1152
01:02:42,340 --> 01:02:43,240
Oh, my goodness.

1153
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:44,480
Don't judge me.

1154
01:02:44,740 --> 01:02:45,320
Oh, boy.

1155
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:46,780
Don't judge me.

1156
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:57,360
And he's sitting here saying, hey, guys, I'm going to give you some things to look at from these churches that are going the wrong way, the opposite way from what I've called them to go.

1157
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:00,020
Just headed to destruction.

1158
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,180
And he said, you can judge them.

1159
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:04,540
I'm going to have you judging.

1160
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,180
I'm going to have you judging throughout this whole thing.

1161
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,440
The saints are going to judge the world.

1162
01:03:11,020 --> 01:03:14,440
And he says, so can you not look at these small matters?

1163
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:16,620
Can you not see these things that are going wrong?

1164
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,300
And can you not speak out against them?

1165
01:03:19,420 --> 01:03:20,400
With righteous judgment.

1166
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:21,680
With righteous judgment.

1167
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,100
With love in your heart.

1168
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:25,100
With truth and love, right?

1169
01:03:25,340 --> 01:03:25,480
Yes.

1170
01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:30,000
And that is why when folks like us get on here, and we're not the only ones.

1171
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:36,860
There are other people out there today that are out here on podcasts and doing stuff like this, talking to Christians.

1172
01:03:37,180 --> 01:03:39,220
And they're saying, you've got to reject this stuff.

1173
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:40,220
This is why.

1174
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,940
Because he says to the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the name.

1175
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:53,240
He's telling them very clearly, you will be put in this position, but you have to endure through this garbage that is going on today.

1176
01:03:55,220 --> 01:03:56,540
He's giving us a command.

1177
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,860
And in addition to, by the way, there's a prize for you.

1178
01:04:00,500 --> 01:04:01,820
There's a carrot, right?

1179
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,620
There's a little bit of a carrot at the end of this.

1180
01:04:03,980 --> 01:04:06,740
But there's also the stick of, because I said so.

1181
01:04:07,740 --> 01:04:09,280
And it's not hard.

1182
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,180
It's exactly the way he's called us.

1183
01:04:11,220 --> 01:04:13,800
And what he expects from us is to stay focused on him.

1184
01:04:14,060 --> 01:04:19,860
We overcome and we're victorious when we keep our eyes on him, just like Peter did when he was walking on water.

1185
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,360
Takes his eyes off of Jesus and he sinks.

1186
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,780
That's the way our day-to-day life is.

1187
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:28,380
And when we do that, the Holy Spirit living inside us makes sure that we overcome.

1188
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:28,820
Amen.

1189
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,000
He transforms us.

1190
01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:30,400
He does.

1191
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,080
We stay with him and we stay close to him.

1192
01:04:32,140 --> 01:04:32,400
Amen.

1193
01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:32,740
Amen.

1194
01:04:32,980 --> 01:04:34,540
Because we're more than overcomers, aren't we?

1195
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:35,000
Absolutely.

1196
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:36,560
Praise the Lord for that.

1197
01:04:36,890 --> 01:04:37,020
Amen.

1198
01:04:37,380 --> 01:04:37,660
Amen.

1199
01:04:37,860 --> 01:04:38,020
Amen.

1200
01:04:38,620 --> 01:04:43,720
Verse 27, and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, and the vessels of the potter shall

1201
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:48,180
they be broken to shivers, even as I have received of my Father.

1202
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,540
This is a reference to the millennial reign of Christ right here.

1203
01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:52,360
It really is.

1204
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:59,380
He said, I'm taking control of this thing, and I'll be ruling and reigning, right?

1205
01:04:59,580 --> 01:05:01,580
I'll be taking control of this.

1206
01:05:03,580 --> 01:05:07,660
And I'll give them a morning star in verse 28.

1207
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,240
Christ is the morning star, right?

1208
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,240
In Revelations 22, 16, which is going ahead here,

1209
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,680
but I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify unto these things.

1210
01:05:20,180 --> 01:05:25,860
In the churches, I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright and morning star.

1211
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:34,420
Titus chapter 2 and verse 3, looking for that blessed hope and that glorious appearing of the great God of our Savior, Jesus Christ.

1212
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:35,120
Amen.

1213
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:35,700
Amen.

1214
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,480
He's in control, guys.

1215
01:05:39,580 --> 01:05:40,780
He really is in control.

1216
01:05:40,980 --> 01:05:41,260
He is.

1217
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,480
And he's patient, not wanting any to be lost.

1218
01:05:44,660 --> 01:05:45,060
That's right.

1219
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:45,420
Amen.

1220
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:46,080
Amen.

1221
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:47,100
He who has an ear.

1222
01:05:47,580 --> 01:05:47,920
Yes.

1223
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:48,400
Yes.

1224
01:05:48,420 --> 01:05:51,240
Let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches, verse 29.

1225
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:52,740
Yes, amen, amen.

1226
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:53,700
Makes it personal.

1227
01:05:54,140 --> 01:05:56,360
And only God's true church will hear.

1228
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:56,840
Absolutely.

1229
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:57,780
Amen.

1230
01:05:58,660 --> 01:05:58,860
Amen.

1231
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:00,080
All right.

1232
01:06:00,770 --> 01:06:04,620
Hey, that's a great wrap-up to it.

1233
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:06,980
We've got to be careful, guys.

1234
01:06:07,220 --> 01:06:12,780
We've got to be careful about what we are letting people tell us,

1235
01:06:12,850 --> 01:06:14,920
what we are letting people say to us within our churches.

1236
01:06:15,220 --> 01:06:20,600
You've got to one of the and I remember having a conversation with somebody about this a long time ago.

1237
01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:24,380
They were talking about the various spiritual gifts and what gifts people have.

1238
01:06:24,430 --> 01:06:31,060
And I remember growing up, there was this whole thing that we did when I was a kid where people tried to they wanted to know what their gift was.

1239
01:06:32,180 --> 01:06:36,800
And, you know, and oh, man, you know, everybody wanted to I want to prophesy.

1240
01:06:37,010 --> 01:06:40,240
I want to want to be a preacher. I want to be a teacher. I want to do all these things.

1241
01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:49,480
You know, the one that I can honestly say I don't want, I don't go out and pray for because it's the one with the most responsibility.

1242
01:06:51,319 --> 01:06:53,780
And we're all given a measure of it.

1243
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:54,440
Administration.

1244
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:55,760
Discernment.

1245
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,680
We're all given a measure of that.

1246
01:06:58,820 --> 01:07:01,320
But there are some that are given a little extra helping of it.

1247
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:10,520
And your job is to stand in the gap from things like this that you are staying studied up.

1248
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:20,740
And when things come into the church that are contrary to the word of God, you're going to the pastor, you're going to the elders, you're going to the deacons, and you're saying, guys, we've got to avoid this.

1249
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:21,820
And here's why.

1250
01:07:21,900 --> 01:07:23,120
And here's this, this and this.

1251
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:24,480
And you've got to be.

1252
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:30,060
And so if that's the spiritual gift that God's given you, that little extra helping of it, you got to nurture it.

1253
01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:30,780
You got to help it grow.

1254
01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:31,660
We all have it.

1255
01:07:31,660 --> 01:07:33,420
We all have a measure of discernment.

1256
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:34,400
We can all grow it.

1257
01:07:35,020 --> 01:07:37,160
But there are some of us that there's just that little extra.

1258
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,120
And if you're one of those people, you got don't shirk your responsibility.

1259
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,060
And then you've got to be willing to listen to everybody else, right?

1260
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:43,640
Yes.

1261
01:07:44,180 --> 01:07:46,620
I mean, to hear that and know that it's truth.

1262
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:48,760
Identify those people in your church.

1263
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:49,380
Right, yeah.

1264
01:07:49,660 --> 01:07:57,440
And if they speak that truth, know that it's truth by comparing it to the Word of God and saying, okay, they got something here, right?

1265
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:06,400
I mean, and if it's something that's been taught or preached and you know that that's truth, stay away from it, run from it, right?

1266
01:08:06,620 --> 01:08:08,240
hear it and receive it.

1267
01:08:08,270 --> 01:08:12,440
Because a lot of times we don't want to receive things that are going to help make us change.

1268
01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:15,780
I got to change my lifestyle if I go that way.

1269
01:08:15,870 --> 01:08:19,160
I got to change my direction if I go that way.

1270
01:08:19,190 --> 01:08:20,859
And I don't really want to do that right now.

1271
01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:22,859
So is this really a bad thing that I'm doing?

1272
01:08:23,299 --> 01:08:29,220
And if that comes from a heart of discernment, from the truth of the word of God, then take it.

1273
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,680
And that's when the Lord will grow you.

1274
01:08:33,060 --> 01:08:33,420
Absolutely.

1275
01:08:34,259 --> 01:08:39,700
And one of the things I always encourage churches, if you're on the leadership team of your church,

1276
01:08:39,810 --> 01:08:43,819
if you're in the leadership group of your church, the deacons, the elders, that group,

1277
01:08:45,020 --> 01:08:46,160
pastor has his own thing.

1278
01:08:46,290 --> 01:08:49,259
I'm not talking to pastors here, so you're off the hook on this one, brother.

1279
01:08:50,380 --> 01:08:56,960
But if you're in the leadership, y'all should be getting together and studying and praying up

1280
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:03,200
to help be a hedge against these teachings of the world and these false teachings

1281
01:09:03,220 --> 01:09:08,720
and these false doctrines, that is it is the pastor leads the church, but he's got to have

1282
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:13,680
some people with him going along acting as that shield to help shield the rest of the

1283
01:09:13,940 --> 01:09:15,620
congregation from some of these fiery darts.

1284
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:19,480
And yes, there is an amount of that that's on each of us individually.

1285
01:09:19,740 --> 01:09:20,600
I acknowledge that.

1286
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:26,000
But when it comes to the church as a whole, there's got to be people that are standing

1287
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,940
in that gap and going, no, no, no, no, I'm going to stand here.

1288
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:32,819
And I view it the same way I view my responsibility as a parent.

1289
01:09:33,060 --> 01:09:41,259
There are people that have the same kind of responsibility for the church where sometimes you got to stand there and you're the one staring off into the darkness and going, nope, no further.

1290
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:46,600
You go right here and you're not coming another inch and you're willing to stand there.

1291
01:09:46,620 --> 01:09:54,100
And let me tell you, that is a scary job because when you stand there and you look off into the darkness long enough, you start seeing the stuff move in there and it's like, ugh.

1292
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:54,980
I'll tell you one of the things.

1293
01:09:54,980 --> 01:09:55,480
That's nasty.

1294
01:09:55,860 --> 01:09:58,380
The sneakiest is contemporary Christian music.

1295
01:09:58,760 --> 01:09:58,900
Yeah.

1296
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:05,640
And I've heard some songs lately just in the last couple of years saying Jesus is a grave robber.

1297
01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:07,500
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1298
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:08,940
Is Jesus really a thief?

1299
01:10:09,220 --> 01:10:09,920
Right, right.

1300
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,600
Did he steal the keys to death and death?

1301
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:13,800
He didn't steal nothing.

1302
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:14,540
Yeah, yeah.

1303
01:10:14,620 --> 01:10:15,200
He owns it.

1304
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:15,960
He reclaimed them.

1305
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:16,720
Yeah, yeah.

1306
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,000
Yeah.

1307
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,680
We got to watch the music with that in our churches.

1308
01:10:21,020 --> 01:10:27,600
And contemporary music is good unless it's going off in left field, right?

1309
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:27,860
Yeah.

1310
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:28,340
Yeah.

1311
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,460
And we've got to be careful because there's old songs that are old.

1312
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:33,320
Yeah, absolutely.

1313
01:10:33,740 --> 01:10:34,320
So, yeah.

1314
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:35,960
But there's a lot of stuff.

1315
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:44,440
And some of these songs are coming out of churches that their whole doctrine is twisted in the first place.

1316
01:10:44,580 --> 01:10:48,840
And so you can imagine that the songs that come from there are going to be twisted.

1317
01:10:48,860 --> 01:10:50,460
I call out Bethel and Hillsong.

1318
01:10:50,660 --> 01:10:51,740
That's two of the main ones.

1319
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:51,960
Right.

1320
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:52,620
Yeah.

1321
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:53,120
Careful.

1322
01:10:53,580 --> 01:10:54,040
Be careful.

1323
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,840
A lot of churches sing their songs because their music is.

1324
01:10:56,900 --> 01:10:57,320
It's catchy.

1325
01:10:57,480 --> 01:10:58,100
Really good song.

1326
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:05,120
really good and listen here and i'll go back and i'll say this if if the song uh gives praise to

1327
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,880
the lord and it's doctrinally safe i don't have a problem with you playing it i understand that's

1328
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:15,920
anchor holds right yeah that's that's yeah you go back to the anchor holds and and you know what uh

1329
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:21,840
the the writer and the singer of that song he came out as a homosexual so you know yeah but

1330
01:11:21,860 --> 01:11:25,500
But the song itself was a sound, right?

1331
01:11:25,660 --> 01:11:25,880
Yeah.

1332
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:26,260
Yeah.

1333
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:26,660
Yeah.

1334
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,260
And that same guy, The Anchor Holds, I Pledge Allegiance to the Lamb.

1335
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:30,760
Yeah.

1336
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:32,960
You know, awesome pieces of music.

1337
01:11:33,140 --> 01:11:35,260
And then where he went with his life, it was like, oh, man.

1338
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:35,680
Oh, yeah.

1339
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:40,560
And, you know, I'm glad you brought that up about the contemporary Christian music.

1340
01:11:41,660 --> 01:11:42,480
That's another area.

1341
01:11:42,580 --> 01:11:48,180
If you are a choir leader, a director of music in your church, you better be praying about this stuff.

1342
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,880
Sit down and actually examine the words of the song, what is being said.

1343
01:11:53,380 --> 01:11:56,540
Because it's, you know, and like you point out, the thing about the grave robber.

1344
01:11:56,820 --> 01:12:01,000
And I know it's a song.

1345
01:12:01,420 --> 01:12:02,200
It does.

1346
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,900
That message is absolutely.

1347
01:12:05,700 --> 01:12:12,480
And that's one of those, I would say it falls on the edge because I think I understand what the guy is trying to convey.

1348
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:13,940
But it's not sound doctrine.

1349
01:12:14,020 --> 01:12:16,480
Boy, it is very much not sound doctrine.

1350
01:12:16,820 --> 01:12:28,240
And the reason I say it falls on that edge is because I can almost promise you, because I know a little bit about that particular artist, his influence is from these Bethel and type churches.

1351
01:12:28,690 --> 01:12:33,440
So he's getting that doctrine and that teaching from these people that have.

1352
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:39,420
They pray on the graves of their saints and thinking they can absorb spiritual power from them.

1353
01:12:39,460 --> 01:12:40,020
Oh, sucking.

1354
01:12:40,150 --> 01:12:40,300
Yeah.

1355
01:12:40,420 --> 01:12:41,620
Come up and we're into that.

1356
01:12:42,220 --> 01:12:46,120
I mean, it sounds crazy and it should be a scary thing.

1357
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:47,540
It should be something that we're scared of.

1358
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:52,680
So pray up and make sure when you're about to do a song for your church or for your choir or something,

1359
01:12:53,140 --> 01:12:54,620
sit down and take the time to read over.

1360
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:55,920
What is this verse?

1361
01:12:56,440 --> 01:12:59,300
What is this song saying and teaching?

1362
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,120
Compare it to the word of God.

1363
01:13:01,740 --> 01:13:08,040
And if it's something and I would shy away from promoting things in your church that are like the ones that you brought up.

1364
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,360
Like I say, neat song.

1365
01:13:09,660 --> 01:13:12,980
I probably wouldn't promote it in the church because it's on the edge.

1366
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,200
And there are other songs that have the same message that do it better.

1367
01:13:16,540 --> 01:13:22,740
So maybe stay away from that, but stay far away from the ones that are wanting to talk about Jesus like he's your boyfriend.

1368
01:13:23,180 --> 01:13:23,600
Oh, yeah.

1369
01:13:24,170 --> 01:13:24,820
Or your buddy.

1370
01:13:25,150 --> 01:13:25,280
Yeah.

1371
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:26,200
Or your best friend.

1372
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:27,460
Because he's not.

1373
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:28,160
He's Lord.

1374
01:13:28,380 --> 01:13:29,100
You're just faceplant.

1375
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:30,180
Let's reverence this.

1376
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:30,460
Yeah.

1377
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:30,740
Yeah.

1378
01:13:31,180 --> 01:13:33,820
Let's keep it reverential and remember that he is Lord.

1379
01:13:33,970 --> 01:13:37,140
And again, these letters to the church that we're going through is because.

1380
01:13:37,980 --> 01:13:38,740
It's judge.

1381
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,000
This is judge.

1382
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:46,260
This is our judge telling us, you did this good, you did this bad, and now we're getting judgment.

1383
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,680
And now we're seeing that.

1384
01:13:48,500 --> 01:13:58,360
Let's remember that when we're praying to Christ, when we're talking about him, when we're singing about him, when we're trying to praise him, we're praising the God of the universe.

1385
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:05,260
The one who by his hands formed this whole world and formed us out of the mud.

1386
01:14:06,420 --> 01:14:09,980
There's a certain amount of respect that's owed that and a certain amount of reverence.

1387
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,040
and let's try to keep it there.

1388
01:14:11,300 --> 01:14:11,720
Amen.

1389
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,080
And Brother Brian, with that, pray us out.

1390
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:15,440
Absolutely.

1391
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,080
Father, we love you.

1392
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,140
And God, we're so thankful for your word.

1393
01:14:19,270 --> 01:14:21,380
We're thankful how it speaks to our hearts

1394
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,620
and God, how it goes to the very bones

1395
01:14:24,820 --> 01:14:28,380
and the marrow of our souls, God.

1396
01:14:28,510 --> 01:14:30,940
It just, it penetrates us.

1397
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,520
And Lord, we thank you, God, that we can,

1398
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,940
that not only, God, when you wrote your living word,

1399
01:14:39,460 --> 01:14:43,380
God, that you said that you would write it in our hearts through the Holy Spirit of God

1400
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:50,140
and so that we might take it with us, God, so that it's not just in book form, but it's

1401
01:14:50,220 --> 01:14:51,180
in spirit form.

1402
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:52,520
It's in us.

1403
01:14:52,570 --> 01:14:53,560
It lives in us.

1404
01:14:54,010 --> 01:14:58,860
And the things that we do and the things that we say, God may not be an exact quote from

1405
01:14:58,870 --> 01:15:01,840
the Bible, but they should mirror the word of God.

1406
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,140
And so we can only do that by studying your word.

1407
01:15:05,260 --> 01:15:09,700
We can only do that by spending time in prayer.

1408
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,920
And so, God, I pray that that's what would happen.

1409
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:17,080
I pray that that's what this podcast would push over is the truth of the word of God

1410
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,040
that would penetrate the hearts of men, that would direct the church

1411
01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:27,600
and direct our moms and dads and husbands and wives, Lord God, to be godly men and women,

1412
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:32,840
Lord, to follow you with passion and compassion, God.

1413
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,980
Lord, we thank you for who you are.

1414
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,220
We thank you for your love, your mercy, your grace, your forgiveness.

1415
01:15:38,780 --> 01:15:42,960
And God, we have to thank you for your judgment, because if it were not for your judgment, God,

1416
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:46,160
Lord, then this whole thing would be chaos.

1417
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,940
But God, you loved us enough to save us from our sails.

1418
01:15:51,420 --> 01:15:53,380
Thank you for the Calvary's cross.

1419
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:54,880
Thank you for the empty grave.

1420
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,860
And Lord, we praise you and thank you for all that you've done in Jesus' name.

1421
01:15:59,060 --> 01:15:59,160
Amen.